For several years now (at least 17) I have experienced a condition periodiacally, where; after I take a few bites of food, I will immediately have an uncontrollable need to vomit. When I vomit, most times food is not produced. The vomit is usually a very thick mucus. I sometimes feel as if my throat is starting to swell. And there have been times when I have been unable to make it to a restroom or other appropriate place before the mucus comes up. There are no other symptoms and I cannot predict when it will happen. Initially, I tought it was an allergic reaction. But after the episode is over, many times I can proceed eating the same meal. It is starting to become embarrasing as this will happen when eating with friends in public. It happens at home also but not as often. My 19 year old son has also developed the same condition. We have noticed the condition when eating the following foods (rice, beef, fries, and foods with sauces). Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry i don't have your answer but i'm looking for the same ones you are. My BF who has severe gastric reflux (and we have no insurance of course) ate wonton soup tonight and 45 min later swelled up, turned beet red and vomited mucous. He still feels crappy, but the vomiting is almost gone - he also has chills but no fever. I hope we both find the answers to this one
I can't find anyone or any information on the web with this same exact thing.
Your post appears to be from 2 years ago. Did you ever find a solution. This is agony as it randomly comes and like you said.....usually after just a few bites of food.
Sometimes I can take a drink when I feel it coming on and I literally feel everything wash down.
Other times, however, the drink won't go down and that creates a spasm in my esophogus and it feels as though I will choke to death or a drowning feeling.
Mucus gets super thick and sometimes feels like foamy.
My main culprits seem to be Rice and barbeque pork. Soometimes beef has brought it on. So random I have no clue what to do.
I can second what you and the others have described. I have had about 4 of these "episodes" one which was tonight and was one of the worst. I am not taking anything for acid reflex, my "guess" is this is related. Time to see what the DR says. I get the mucus and foam and feel like I am having trouble breathing. Also tonight it was chicken I was eating, sometimes it seems to be banana's.
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I have been to the doctor a couple times throughout the past 10 years and they keep saying nothing is wrong.
I had the barium swallow and the endoscopy camera and they found nothing so I have given up on the Doctors.
Please let me know what they tell you. I am very curious!
I have noticed it does seem to come on when I am more stressed than usual but then again not always!
I too have this from time to time. I do take something for acid reflex that is over the counter. I never knew I had that much mucus but I feel so much better after it comes up. Same thing, I can take one or two bites of food and I start "foaming at the mouth" because it feels like it's stuck in my throat and it's the mucus. Once I get all the mucus up, it's a big relief. I have not gone to the doctor either. Afraid they'll want to do one thing and then another and still no answers!
Glad I'm not alone. Let me know if anyone has found out why this is happening.
OMG, the same thing happens to me. It used to be mostly the food I was eating would get "stuck" and I would have to excuse myself and go throw up. Then I could eat pretty much ok if I was careful.
then I had thyroid surgery and for 2 years I was ok.
Now it is back. This time it is that thick mucus you are talking about. Where in heck is THAT coming from? Is it always there?
My brother who had a thyroidectomy for T cancer has this problem too.
he said it is esophageal spasms due to the different temps of food. Like cold drinks followed by hot soup or rice or any meat. It can also be not thoroughly chewing food.
Even when I am careful it can happen. Now I am thinking some of it is psychological. I am afraid it will happen, I get tense and then it does.
Yes, the phlegm is stringy and foamy. Is this mucus the first part of digestion?
Everything that has been described is what I experience. That does make sense that these are esophageal spasms. Well we are not alone in this for sure. Perhaps someone will join us that got some miracle cure. I do not see any pattern yet in what triggers it. I seem to think some is stress on my part.
This sounds like esophageal spasms. Instead of going down, food goes part of the way down and then stays there so you have that stuck in the throat sensation, or it goes back up again. Sometimes the spasms themselves can feel like you are trying to swallow broken glass. I used to get this all the time before my surgery. Very painful. The foam that someone described is very common with esophageal movement disorders-it's just saliva. You are constantly swallowing saliva and if you have an esophageal problem it can come right back up. The mucus is probably just that -mucus from your nasal cavity (that normally drains down the back of the throat so you are not aware of it) that came back up again just like the saliva.
Muscles in the esophagus can be very sensitive to temperature. Very cold drinks prevented me from swallowing anything for at least an hour. I would have to spit out saliva because it wouldn't stay down.
None of this can be seen with an endoscopy (although if the procedure is painful that is a symptom of a problem with the stomach valve). You have to have special tests done to see how the muscles in your esophagus are working.
I doubt if the original poster was vomiting. It sounded more like they were regurgitating. When you regurgitate you expel food that has been stored at the bottom of the esophagus that has been unable to get into the stomach. It is easier to regurgitate than vomit. There is no bile so the food tastes the same as when you swallowed it. It can slide right out sometimes.
If you hiccup after eating, it can be caused by food building up in the esophagus that presses on the diaphragm.
If you have frequent bouts of coughing at night, it can be caused by food and liquids eaten earlier in the day that come up when you lie down and then go down the wrong way into your windpipe and into your lungs. This often happens just when you fall asleep and you lose conscious control of muscles but it happens during the day too.
If you have these symptoms, I strongly suggest finding a clinic that specializes in swallowing disorders ASAP. Sometimes the problem is just esophageal spasms but the spasms can have a very serious cause like achalasia. Ignore that and your esophagus will eventually become so dilated it will no longer work and you will have to have it removed.
That's what almost happened to me. I had symptoms like you described and was diagnosed with GERD. However, the meds wouldn't help and the heartburn got worse (meds designed to decrease acid formation in the stomach do not work in the esophagus). I sought help because I thought my stomach valve was too loose and food was not staying in. The problem was the opposite. I have a huge esophagus able to hold a full meal and the stomach valve was too tight. Food I ate could not get into the stomach right away so it had to wait in the esophagus. Gradually the wait got longer. Food fermented, acid formed, and medications I took burned the esophagus. No wonder it hurt so bad! Surgery fixed the whole thing. In one day and home the next.
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I have achalasia. For an unknown reason the nerves in the smooth muscle of the lower 2/3 of the esophagus start to die. This doesn't effect swallowing (ever) since that is striated muscle in the upper third of the esophagus under voluntary control. The dying nerves cause spasms. But in order for the LES to open a signal must be generated by the nerve plexus in the valve. My nerves there were almost totally dead so the valve opened progressively less and less and my esophagus got progressively more dilated to hold the food waiting to get into the stomach. With the nerves dying you don't feel this. At night I could regurgitate the food that didn't get in during the day. The two diagnostic tests are a barium swallow and manometry. My barium swallow went from normal to also end stage achalasia in just 5 years. I'd been having swallowing problems for ten years before I had surgery.
I had a Heller myotomy and partial fundoplication. The myotomy cuts the lower esophageal sphincter to open it since without the nerves it is totally useless. Then they take the upper part of the stomach -the fundus- and wrap it part way round the esophagus. Just like the LES, the muscle in the fudus relaxes when you swallow so it makes a very good replacement stomach valve. The surgery is laparoscopic and they go in through the abdomen with small five cuts that require no stitches. You are overnight in the hospital and go home the next day. As soon as you want you can eat.
Now my innards must be strange to look at but they work normally and feel normal for the first time in quite a while.
To anyone contemplating this surgery I can only say find an experienced surgeon. This is a rare operation and even surgeons who consider themselves experts have only done it once or twice. Your best bet is to find a swallowing clinic at a large university. I had my surgery done at the University of Washington in Seattle by the doctor who developed the operation I had.
Sometimes the esophagus dilates to the point where it sags below the entrance to the stomach. This is the dreaded "J" pouch (what it looks like in a cross section). Food accumulates in the pouch and can't get up into the stomach. Infections like candida occur and food particles there wander back up at night and end up in the windpipe causing pneumonia. The only thing they can do is remove the esophagus. Not an easy operation and things are never the same. Better to have the myotomy as early as you can to prevent damage to the esophagus so if you have these symptoms please see a specialist ASAP. Better to have the surgery earlier than later. Plus the myotomy stopped some of the worse spasm pain I was having.
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