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Old 04-11-2012, 03:01 AM   #1
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Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

I was diagnosed with what the specialist referred to as Chronic laryngitis a few weeks ago. I had the camera down my throat which took some pictures of very pretty pink vocal cords, which i was informed should be crisp white.

Apparently 3 things cause it:-

1. Acid Reflux (which I know I have)
2. Trauma to the vocal cords (last winter I had bronchitis and a lung infection)
3. Straining of the vocal cords (I am a tutor so that is a given that has happened)

He did say I need to get the reflux under control, and to my delight said he never found losec any good himself lol.

I am on 2 weeks voice rest, taking Mylanta at night before bed, using Friar's Balsam as an inhalation, going to see a voice specialist to help, and have a herbal tincture for the scar tissue.

On day 7 of voice rest so far, throat doesn't feel as raw although still sore.

Anyone else had this problem, and found something that works.

My job is in jeopardy unless i can get it sorted.

Would appreciate anyone else's experiences or thoughts.

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Old 04-11-2012, 11:50 AM   #2
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Hi,
You sound as if you are taking all the right products for your symptoms.
I have always found milk and honey soothing for a sore thro**. I would particularly recommend Manuka Honey as it has an Antibiotic culture and would help you if there was any infection in your thro**.
If you have Acid Reflux symptoms it may be th** a PPI would be more appropri**e.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:22 PM   #3
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Hi there,

Thanks for your response. I do 2 tsps active manuka every day, one first thing in the morning and again before dinner. I also follow that with fresh carrot and apple juice.

I took losec/omeprazole with no luck, and I'm not convinced PPI's are the way to go. I know for some it is the only thing that gives them releif, but when you read the bad experiences with them, there must be another way.

The constant sore throat gets the better of me at times, and thought there might be someone else with laryngitis who has found ways to overcome it.

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Old 04-11-2012, 02:50 PM   #4
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

It's true, PPIs work better for heartburn than they do for LPR. The non-drug measures help more. They include: eating small meals, avoiding trigger foods, propping up the head of the bed, and not eating before bed.

My GI recommended a mix of Listerine and hydrogen peroxide to gargle with, especially if I get a cold or something. I also bought some sugar-free DGL, and I suck on them all day long if my throat bothers me.

Medicines like Domperidone might be more effective than Losec for you. It's worth a try, anyway.

For me, I eventually wound up having surgery. It's helped about 80-90%.

 
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:25 PM   #5
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

I have had pretty much the same thing. I have severe acid reflux and asthma, which has resulted from pneumonia and lung infections, and I used to lose my voice a couple of times a year.

I was a professional singer and the voice loss was a problem. My vocal coach and I experimented with simple and natural cures and came up with some good ones.

What I found is that when my voice starts to go hoarse it's usually a result of dehydration and possibly some immunity breakdown. The remedy for it was this:

1. A dose of salt and potassium (could be table salt and a banana, or orange juice, but I used salt and potassium tablets from the vitamin section at GNC) every single hour with a full glass of water until my voice came back fully. Salt and potassium are helpful in getting your body to retain the water that it's losing when it dehydrates.

2. A dose of 1000 vitamin C every hour (Emergen-C is good, or even Air Borne, chewable vitamins or whatever.)

3. Hot herbal tea with lemon, honey and a pinch of cayenne (this was just soothing)

4. Neti-pot to clear out the sinuses and stop post-nasal drip (dripping of junk from your sinuses, down the back of your throat into your lungs)

I did the above I think about 3 times for almost 48 hours each time, and then I started to be able to tell when I was getting too dehydrated and then I would replenish my salt and potassium and be able to resolve it in one or two doses. Making sure I drink a lot of water of course helps, too. With the above, I haven't lost my voice again for around 4 years.

I still would get occasional sore throats from the acid reflux so to resolve that I have a prescription similar to Prilosec or Prevacid, which work on acid reflux for 24 hours and can be taken daily (as directed on the box). I also make sure I don't eat lying down, and I try to reduce fried and spicy foods. If you do eat fried foods, try drinking something like OJ or lemonade with it because that will become alkaline in your stomach to counteract the acid.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it helps.

 
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:09 AM   #6
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Thanks for sharing your story. I think one of the hardest things with LPR is that everyone has a different story and there are so many different symptoms. Add to that the fact that most doctors, specialists included, don't seem to know a great deal about it, and no wonder we all struggle.

It's about helping one another and finding our own way.

Whether it be ppi's, VitD, and a raft of other things, we try anything to feel better.

I was doing okay until I got bronchitis last year, and things went from bad to worse throat wise. Hopefully the 2 weeks voice rest will help.

Thanks again for your advice.

Jude

 
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:57 AM   #7
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

If it is from acid reflux it may take time to resolve. I was put on nexium, and it took a good 6 months to really be better. I too had very red inflalmed vocal cords. Still have problems sometimes, I didn't have a sore throat, just coughing and breathing problems, and hoarseness. After 8 weeks on nexium he saw that my vocal cords were looking better. It has been over 2 years now. Still take nexium seems like whenever I go off it gets worse again, but hope to stop it at some point. Good luck.

 
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Hi,
Interesting!!... "How do you plan to come off Nexium" I have read so many times of rebound reaction after leaving any PPI off. My friends husband has been on them for two years and like you mentioned everytime he cuts down his A.R returns even worse. I have taken them on/off for the past year for A.R/GERD and had no problems. Just recently have had to go back on them and after taking them for just one month and now cutting down I find I have had to up my dosage which like you concerns me.
I always cut my dose down, never just stop so I'm interested in ways to leave off altogether with the minimum trouble.

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Old 04-12-2012, 07:22 PM   #9
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Gaviscon Advance is used to treat for LPR. I am certain it will help if not cure you like it has done for other people.

From the bottle:

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It can be used to relieve the symptoms of...... and symptoms of hoarseness and other voice reflux disorders, sore throat, and cough associated with reflux.
It is only available in the UK, but can be ordered on the internet.

 
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Hi Kevin thanks for that info. I did get the Mylanta extra strength, but will look for the Gaviscon extra strength. Do you take it regularly?

Sounds too good to be true, How does the ordinary Gaviscon work?

You can take it long term?

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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

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Hi Kevin thanks for that info. I did get the Mylanta extra strength, but will look for the Gaviscon extra strength. Do you take it regularly?

Sounds too good to be true, How does the ordinary Gaviscon work?

You can take it long term?

Thanks

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It is Gaviscon Advance.

I am taking it now. I have had a sore throat for six years from LPR. I have been taking it for a month and noticed improvement.

 
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Wow kevin - 6 years! What am I complaining about at six months.

I did a search and I can get it here in New Zealand online, so I will do that next week for sure and let you know how it goes.

How often do you take it in a day, and when?

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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

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Wow kevin - 6 years! What am I complaining about at six months.

I did a search and I can get it here in New Zealand online, so I will do that next week for sure and let you know how it goes.

How often do you take it in a day, and when?

Jude
10 ml 4x a day. Once after each meal, once before bedtime.

Also important is check your Vitamin D levels in your blood. If it is low, begin taking supplements to raise the level. There is a thread on this board about it.

Low vitamin D levels are important for everything with healing. Also with function of stomach valves.


FYI, I am not sure the Gaviscon Advance sold in New Zealand is the same as it is in the UK. I would contact the manufacturer to be 100% sure it is the same.

The manufacturer is Reckitt Benckiser.

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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Hi,
You can buy Gaviscon Advance in Ireland also.
I'm not sure if it would work as well as a PPI or if so surely Gastrologists would send all their patients away with a bottle of it. Also I would look it up and see if it can be taken daily and for how long.
If you are prescribed a PPI by your Specialist it would make sence to consult him or your Dr on this to see if it is O.K, I do know it can be taken as an addition to a PPI.

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Old 04-13-2012, 01:45 PM   #15
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Re: Chronic Laryngitis from Silent Reflux LPR

Thanks again Kevin,

I read it had twice the amount of ........ can't remember as the notmal one, but I will check into it.

About the Vit D, I was involved in that thread, and now correspond with 2 of the writers to support one another. Mine was in the normal range, although at the lower end. I take fish oil every day that has Vitd in it as well. I still wonder about poor sleep patterns though and if they have an effect on us.

Solo,

Doesn't surprise me that gastros don't send you away with a bottle. They're geared up for drugs, and rarely think outside of the box. How often do you hear of a dr recommending an alternative or herbal remedy? It's rare, and my specialist for the record, did tell me to use mylanta and gaviscon. He said Losec did nothing for him either, and there are many alternatives you can try. I thought he was one out of the box on that score.


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