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Old 11-05-2003, 02:33 PM   #1
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Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

Has anyone tried this? If we could locate the right parts, we should be able to build a system that is just as effective as the $50,000 machine the derms use.

The original clinical study simply used a 400watt metal halide bulb that is available at any aquarium supply store for $100.

All you would need is eye protection, the bulb and a metal halide bulb fixture with uv protection so you do not burn yourself.

All the parts are available at aquarium stores. The difficult part is that the bulb will have to peak right at 420nm. I've found a few that are close, but if anyone could find the perfect bulb we could really do this.. Anyone interested in exploring this?

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Old 01-06-2004, 10:12 PM   #2
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

[i'm very interested,,i've been researching 400watt metal halide blue wavelength bulbs..have you made any progress on making your own at home lamp?

 
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:24 AM   #3
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

I would be interested in researching this. I like making things, and surely it's simply a case of finding the correct wavelength bulbs (I would look for a red one as well as blue because red light helps with healing) and suitable fixtures. I will look around - there must be hardware stores or even (as Doug said, pet stores) that supply suitable bulbs.
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Old 01-08-2004, 07:09 PM   #4
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You guys are such "men" and I mean that in a good way - no woman would think about building a light like you guys are. Yeah, let us all know if it works, and I can have my husband build one!

 
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Well, I don't want to put a downer on this but I spent nearly two hours scouring the Net for lamps with the correct wavelength (405-420nm) and power (at least 75W), and got nowhere. I must have seen over a hundred specialist web sites and searched them all extensively. I also tried places like Maplin (an electronics store here in the UK) as well as laboratory suppliers. I'm disappointed LizzardLady - I wanted to get my DIY thinking cap on
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:09 AM   #6
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

Does anyone here know a dermatologist with a clearlight system? If you ahve a friend who is a derm you could get them to order the bulb and just give it to you.

 
Old 01-09-2004, 11:31 AM   #7
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I wish I had some information for you on light sources. However, after reading about your self motivated goal to create your own acne lamp - I briefly considered giving up my current career in television and going to medical school. FLASH FORWARD TO THE FUTURE: After my future studies dedicated to discovering a cheap (and unpatented) method to cure acne with light, I would offer this knowledge for free to acne sufferers. Well, not until I paid back my student loans by profiting off yet another 'miracle cure'

I think you have a fantastic idea here. The specific lightbulb you are looking for could very well be 'unavailable' in the specific frequency because it is reserved for profit making entities. It would be interesting to research where companies like acnelamp and dermalux get their lightbulbs - to see if they make them themselves or if they purchase from a common company.

I have a few engineering friends at the UCLA graduate school - I'll check with them to see how difficult it is to create a bulb with the appropriate frequency and safety feaures. FYI, I will be selling this information for a minimum of $200 when I find out. Just kidding.

 
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

I don't necessarily believe that suitable lamps have been made unavailable to the general public - I just don't think there's ever been an alternative application for them. Please do ask your friends about the lamps, though. Like I said before the blue light found to kill the bacteria is in the wavelength range 405-420nm ("nano metres") and the required power is ideally 150 Watts. I'll find out the specifications required for the red light.
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Old 01-13-2004, 01:58 PM   #9
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

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Originally Posted by Doug905
Has anyone tried this? If we could locate the right parts, we should be able to build a system that is just as effective as the $50,000 machine the derms use.

The original clinical study simply used a 400watt metal halide bulb that is available at any aquarium supply store for $100.

All you would need is eye protection, the bulb and a metal halide bulb fixture with uv protection so you do not burn yourself.

All the parts are available at aquarium stores. The difficult part is that the bulb will have to peak right at 420nm. I've found a few that are close, but if anyone could find the perfect bulb we could really do this.. Anyone interested in exploring this?
I have been reading through the other posts on light bulbs on this forum and here is an interesting one by FilmGuy.

Have you tried using the aquarium bulb as a treatment at this point? I'm still waiting for my engineer friends to get back to me on creating the correct frequency bulb. My father is also an engineer, but he is skeptical that you could create the correct frequency for a low price. However it would be cheaper than a $50,000 machine, but you would need the right equipment to create it.

Here is the other post:

I haven't tried Verilux, but I bought a much brighter GE Industrial blue light online to use at home. I've used it for about a month now and I'm VERY impressed with the results. It's eliminated all but the most mild acne bumps, and I've been plauged with bad back acne for years. The only annoying thing is you really have to use it at least every other day for it to be effective (about 15 minutes per treatment). I stopped using it for about a week and had a reccurance (albeit mild), although that at least indicates it's working. I should mention that I'm still using both Salycilic Acid (2%) and Benzoly Peroxide (10%) Wash when I shower. These alone never achieved the results I've had when combined with the light.

The Clear Light treatment sounds great and suppsosedly lasts longer, but it's WAY too expensive for my budget. $800 for 6 months of clear skin is MUCH too high a price when someone with moderate acne can do it at home for the cost of one of these bulbs (around $70). Most insurance carriers don't cover Clear Light (to my knowledge).

Does anyone know about NLight treatment for acne scarring? (mainly used for wrinkle removal in the States).

 
Old 01-13-2004, 04:25 PM   #10
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Re: Making your own Clearlight Acne Lamp?

That's funny, filmoyster, I found that post earlier as well. I was encouraged by this information but it doesn't tell us where FilmGuy bought his bulb. I suspect your Dad is right to think the correct lamp wouldn't be cheap.

At the moment I'm wating for my Dermalux unit to arrive (they've taken the money, so it should have come today, really - hopefully it'll come tomorrow). I can't wait
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