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Old 12-29-2004, 10:02 AM   #31
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Re: Adult Acne

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Accutane. Just make sure you research it because there is a lot to know and understand about it if you are female. Accutane is supposed to be for severe cystic acne, but it is also great if your acne is caused by overactive sebaceous glands. It is also the closest thing to a "cure" that's currently out on the market. The most common side-effects (by far) are dry skin, dry eyes, dry scalp, chapped lips, and once in a while some mild hair loss (which, after the 4-6 month treatment ends the hair grows back in as thick as it used to... so it's not permanent). My acne was caused by overactive oil glands which is why I took it - and it worked so well. I felt repulsed by my face too at times, but after only a month or two my face was flawless like it has never ever seen a zit before. Do your research, talk to your doctor, and if he won't prescribe it you can always dig around and find it being sold on the internet (about $200 for 100 capsules, 20mg Isotane each). Be aware that it is marketed under different names as well (Accutane, Roaccutane, Isotane, Isotretinoin) but they are all the same thing. I'd really suggest reading some online journals as part of your research. Usually those people post before and after pictures and usually update on a daily basis during treatment, so you can get an excellent idea of what this stuff does and how long it takes to do what it does. It is also a good idea to start with a low dose and gradually work up to half your body weight (I am 165lbs, so divide that by 2 and I get just over 82.5... so 80mg / day is what I am taking). My acne wasn't too bad really, but I started off at 40mg / day for 2 weeks then went up to 60mg / day because it was working so well. I think went up to 80mg / day (currently) and will stay at this level for a month before working my way back down to 60mg and then 40mg before I stop. Oh yea, you also should avoid alcohol while on this (Vitamin A and synthetic Vitamin A are bad for your live in high doses, but since it's not TOO high of a dose and is only 4-6 months you'll be ok, but alcohol is unnecessary stress and could have permanent effects). It would also help to run, or bike, or just workout while on Accutane too because cholesterol and blood fat levels increase while on this drug, so healthy eating and cardio workouts will help keep those things to a minimum. OK sorry for the long post. Seriously just go research Accutane, read the journals, think about it, talk to your dermatologist, and if you really want it bad enough (if he/she says no) you can always get it online... Good luck!

PS - Whether you are pretty or not is unaffected by acne. Skin tone makes a difference, sure, but people look at other people for who they are. People will still see the natural beauty you have. AND people tend to see people for WHO they are. Try to be confident that you are a great person and have a lot to offer people... let your personality step up and prevail over your acne and people will be so attracted to you for it, and you will love yourself too. It sounds cheesy but it is so true. People told me I was good looking while I had acne and I never believed it, but I still new I had a good looking face but with the acne I just felt so unattractive. Now that my face is clear nothing really has changed, just my self-confidence. Now I see what everybody else saw. Now that I feel comfortable with myself I can actually BE myself and not worry and it's fantastic. If I had realized this before so many things would be different now. Just try not to let it get you down, and if you really have tried everything with no good luck then take a look at Accutane. Good luck!
Accutane is bad enough without telling people to get it online without a doctor's prescription. SHAME ON YOU!!!! I am totally against anybody taking Accutane, but if you are going to do it get the proper tests done and have a doctor monitor your health while you are taking the drug.

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Old 12-29-2004, 10:58 AM   #32
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Re: Adult Acne

Why are you so against it? I'm almost done with my treatment course and this stuff has done more than I could have ever imagined. The quality of my skin is just unbeatable... my only concern now is how long will it last... but it's supposed to last 1-2 years for 90-75% of people with severe acne, so I'm hoping it will last a little longer for me since I wasn't severe. Life is full of risks, but as long as you prepare yourself you can take educated risks and it's really not as bad as you think. Possible side effects seem really bad, but I haven't experienced any of them and neither have a lot of other people either. I haven't lost any hair or anything... just drying out like a snail in a salt shaker. I suggest you guys at least read up on it, if anything you will have a greater knowledge of what's out there.

 
Old 12-29-2004, 11:10 AM   #33
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yea. if you order accutane off the internet without doing the proper tests and monitoring and you get pregnant that is probably a crime.

 
Old 12-29-2004, 11:50 AM   #34
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Possible side effects seem really bad, but I haven't experienced any of them and neither have a lot of other people either. I haven't lost any hair or anything... just drying out like a snail in a salt shaker.
How are you monitoring yourself for liver damage and other serious side effects that may not be apparent for a while? Accutane is a potent drug and there is a reason why it is prescription only. I agree that life is full of risks, but there is no reason to take foolish ones. Why not have a doctor prescribe Accutane for you and get the proper tests?

 
Old 12-29-2004, 04:54 PM   #35
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None of the doctors would prescribe it. It seems very rare for someone to be denied or taken off Accutane. Most of these people are put on even higher doses than me and their enzyme levels on slightly increase. I am in great shape and have no history of liver problems. I watch what I eat and work out often (my resting heart rate is 48-50 bpm). My acne was ruining my life and so I gave Accutane a shot at a very low dosage and gradually put it up to where it "should" be. Now I am bringing my self off of it. I don't think it's a very foolish risk. If you guys do, then don't try it. I did my research everyday for months and was very weary, but finally decided just to try it out. I am not showing any symptoms of a dysfunctioning liver so I am assuming everything is fine, and since the dosage is just going to keep getting smaller and smaller I am not worried anymore at this point. My skin is fantastic and I feel great. If you guys did your research and still don't think it's a wise decision then that's fine. But I've already made mine and since I'm already in month 4 it's a little late to be having second thoughts or reconsider what I've done.

 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:28 PM   #36
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Re: Adult Acne

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None of the doctors would prescribe it. It seems very rare for someone to be denied or taken off Accutane. Most of these people are put on even higher doses than me and their enzyme levels on slightly increase. I am in great shape and have no history of liver problems. I watch what I eat and work out often (my resting heart rate is 48-50 bpm). My acne was ruining my life and so I gave Accutane a shot at a very low dosage and gradually put it up to where it "should" be. Now I am bringing my self off of it. I don't think it's a very foolish risk. If you guys do, then don't try it. I did my research everyday for months and was very weary, but finally decided just to try it out. I am not showing any symptoms of a dysfunctioning liver so I am assuming everything is fine, and since the dosage is just going to keep getting smaller and smaller I am not worried anymore at this point. My skin is fantastic and I feel great. If you guys did your research and still don't think it's a wise decision then that's fine. But I've already made mine and since I'm already in month 4 it's a little late to be having second thoughts or reconsider what I've done.
If you were denied Accutane by a doctor, there was must have been a good reason. There are definitely long term side effects to taking the medication, Accutane. My husband took Accutane when he was 16 years old. At 21, he had to go to a hair specialist because he was balding and had lost a significant amount of hair. My husband continues to have extremely dry skin and lips. He is constantly putting moisturizer on his face and chapstick on his lips. At times, his lips will start to bleed because they are so dry. And if that is not scary enough, my husband is 38 years old. If you think there are no long term side effects to taking Accutane, your crazy or just plain stupid!!!! Take your pic of either choice. I hope the 1-2 years of being acne free is worth it. By the way, my husband still has the occasional break out of acne. So not only does my husband have to live with the side effects the rest of his life, but he still has acne. Definitely not worth it!!!!! Get some self-esteem and be happy with your appearance. Nobody cares what you look like as much as you do.

Please do not advise others to obtain Accutane over the Internet. There are kids reading this sight looking to find legitimate ways of controlling their acne. It is criminal to suggest to someone to take Accutane without consulting a doctor to obtain a prescription. What if someone did that and did have an adverse effect to the medication. Be careful what you say, there are a lot of people who read this site that are desperate to "cure" their acne and will be prone to taking advise that could be potentially hazardous to their health.

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Old 12-29-2004, 06:36 PM   #37
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Re: Adult Acne

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My acne was ruining my life
If you go back to one of your first posts on this thread, you went on and on about how "you only live once so who cares what other people think" and "Oh yea, and as far as feeling self-conscious, you should really try not to. I'm sure all of you know this, but looks are NOT everything." I knew you were full of it! LOL I'm only teasing you but I really didn't think you had acne that bad if you could tell other people not to worry about it. And maybe it's true, if you have a few pimples when you're a teen.. big deal, everyone does. But I think this thread was started because you *do* worry about it when the acne persists year after year. Picture yourself as a business person and you have to go meet with clients with zits all over your face and you're 40. Or it's your wedding day and your face is gushing oil and you have painful cystic acne. You look around and all the other adults you see have normal skin. I never had acne that was horrific, but the zits I did get (pre-Murad, yea!) were the big, inflammatory, face-distorting kind. You can cover up the color with makeup, but you can't hide a big lump. ANYway, if no doctor would prescribe Accutane for you, I'd take the hint! It's not for you. But I guess that is neither here nor there now I hope your skin remains clear and that you stay healthy.

 
Old 12-29-2004, 07:38 PM   #38
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Hmmm, I think you guys are misunderstanding. I am not advising anyone to jump into Accutane. I am telling you all to at least read up on it. I thought I at least made that part clear. I wasn't broken out badly enough with the first dermatologist and basic antibiotics were working decently. He retired and I ended up going to someone else, who really was a lousy doctor. He didn't listen to what I had to say and never spoke to me eye to eye. He always had tons of patients at one time, which is pretty obvious he is a MD for the money. I dropped him quickly, did my research, and decided to take a risk. My choice, so don't tell me I've made a poor decision please.

And furthermore, I gave you my current perspective so as to justify the things I am saying. Now that my skin is clear I can tell you that when I talk to people with acne I don't even pay any attention to it. Yea I notice it's there but I could really care less. Personality is truly what prevails. Maybe I just sympathize more because I had acne so I know how it's not their fault etc, etc. But I do know that I don't even pay attention to other people's acne anymore.

Kittikat - I am sorry to hear about your husband... but... if I am not losing hair now why would I lose it later on because of accutane once I'm off it? Hair loss is genetic, and given his age, I'm sure that is the cause, not accutane. Can you prove without a reasonable doubt that accutane caused his hair loss? As far as chapped lips, my lips don't even bleed now and my really dry skin isn't nearly as bad as it was, and even then it wasn't so bad. BELIEVE me when I tell you I've done my research. I am very adamant about this, and I know my acne was caused by overactive sebaceous glands, and isotretinoin is exactly what I needed. Needless to say it worked and I feel great about my skin. If you've read my other posts you'll see that I've also mentioned that the changes I thought would be made aren't as night and day as I had expected. Sure my self confidence is up and my skin looks great, but I am still me and people still look at me the same. I am not all of a sudden getting tons of gfs... all that stayed the same. We each have our reasons, just as long as it is truly justified and as long as you do your research before hand, you really can't make a 'bad' decision.

Kittikat - I just reread your post and you just sound so immature. Why are you worrying about little kids that are reading this? They have $200-800 for Accutane? A credit card? I don't think so. The fact that your husband has all these problems doesn't mean he accurately represents every person who has ever taken accutane. I am telling you I am not going through those things. I also told you that I made a calculated judgement. It was a risk I was willing to take and it paid off big time. I am making a suggestion to try it for those who are desperate for something that is very effective... as long as you do your research before hand. I justified myself in saying this too, just go back and read. Knowledge is power, and from what I can tell you have neither. To each his own. I suggest you stay away from accutane, but for the rest of you guys reading up on it will NOT hurt you and if anything will only help you understand your skin and possible solutions all the better. Wow, this is what happens when I try to help other people... ridiculous.

One more thing, it is always the better option to ask questions first and accuse later. Zip, you didn't ask how many dermatologists I've been to, or how many I've actually asked to put me on the stuff. I asked one dermatologist whom I felt was a rotten doctor anyway. You guys are OBVIOUSLY looking for some kind of help if you are typing on this board. I offered my story and my help and you guys are shooting me down for it. I don't need to be on this board, but I didn't think many people with successful results actually stayed to help so I thought I would. As far as I'm concerned you guys already know what you need to do, so I don't even know why I bother.

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Old 12-29-2004, 08:47 PM   #39
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Re: Adult Acne

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One more thing, it is always the better option to ask questions first and accuse later. Zip, you didn't ask how many dermatologists I've been to, or how many I've actually asked to put me on the stuff. I asked one dermatologist whom I felt was a rotten doctor anyway. :
Well, you said "None of the doctors would prescribe it"... plural... your words So one doctor wouldn't prescribe it and you went out and got it for yourself? I just wonder why you didn't ask another doctor, so you could at least be monitored and make sure you weren't damaging your health. Feeling ok now doesn't mean you aren't slowly damaging your liver or causing other adverse biochemical or tissue changes that you are going to regret later on. Why do you think patients on Accutane are carefully monitored? Why would doctors even bother if all that was necessary was to ask the patient, "Hey, Joe, how are you feeling? Liver enzymes good?" I know you're feeling "attacked" when all you were trying to do was be helpful, but I hope you see that people are looking at this from a common sense point of view and are trying to help YOU. "Doing your research" is fine and dandy, but in that research you should have noticed all the warnings about the blood tests that are a necessary part of doctor-administered treatment.

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You guys are OBVIOUSLY looking for some kind of help if you are typing on this board. I offered my story and my help and you guys are shooting me down for it.
I'm not looking for help, actually. My acne is gone (controlled) for the time being with the Murad products I've been using. I was just offering my experience with adult acne, which is the topic of this thread.

 
Old 12-29-2004, 09:12 PM   #40
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Got it. It seems everybody who has been monitored never had any problems. Liver enzyme increase but not significantly. I am doing a fairly low dosage for someone of my body weight, and not doing it for as long either. It was just a risk I was willing to take. Anything can happen down the road, but who is to say that it is a direct result of me taking accutane? La Rocche is supposed to list ALL side effects, even if only a few people experience them because it is obviously possible. I also looked at the occurance rates, and the severe stuff was all slim. I pointed out already what my side effects are. I've been getting blood tests anyway, but not for my liver enzymes. We can debate this all day but my decision was made months ago and I almost done with treatment. It is a subjective matter whether or not accutane is worth it and if it is worth doing on your own. I am just putting ideas out there and putting much emphasis on research and understanding before actually undergoing treatment. It just bugs me that you guys put such extreme emphasis on the rare cases... and for kittikat just on her husband... Believe me I did the research and your husband is a rare case. I also did suggest talking to your doctor about it too. I am not forcing anybody to do this, just putting out ideas. You can put out your ideas as well but you don't have to attack while you do so.

 
Old 12-30-2004, 07:49 AM   #41
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My thoughts on Accutane: In my early 20's, I did 2 rounds of Accutane. After each round, my face was dry, but clear.
Long term side effects: dry lips and dry skin. It has been 7 yrs since my last round and I am still having these effects.
Eventually the pimples came back and I tried birth control and various meds. Over the last few yrs, I've been on Minocin and birth control to control the breakouts. But there was never a light at the end of the tunnel. My derm said that I could be on these meds indefinitely. That did not give me hope. Who wants to be medicated indefinitely?

Anyway, now that we are trying to conceive a child, Accutane is not an option to me. I also wonder if my 2 rounds of Accutane will have any affect on our children ?

 
Old 12-30-2004, 08:47 AM   #42
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Looks are not everything thats true. 120,000 people were killed by the tidal wave. However the news chose to pick out the supermodel who got a broken pelvis in the wave and do a news report on her condition. Collective insanity, or just good looks?

 
Old 12-30-2004, 11:20 AM   #43
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I am a 46 year old woman, who battled acne throughout my adult life (no acne in teen years). I had been clear for the last 5 years until I started taking CortiSlim (to lose just 5-7 pounds. Stupid). Within a couple of weeks my face broke out in one of the WORST episodes of cystic acne ever! Of course I ceased the CortiSlim, and my doctor out me on blood pressure medicine. It's been 2 weeks and my acne is clearing, although I have discolorations and may have scarring. Not only did the CortiSlim cause this horrible acne, but it raised my blood pressure, gave me chest pains, caused my periods to go erratic, and caused hormonal changes. I suggest that anyone who is taking any type of diet supplement to look to that as possibly flaring up adult acne. It may not be the cause of the acne, but it may be making it worse. Just a tip that I hope helps at least someone.

 
Old 12-30-2004, 12:34 PM   #44
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WOW OCAngel! What the heck did your doctor say was in that stuff to make you breakout? Does the doc know what it could have been or do you suspect something? It wasnt the caffiene was it? I have heard of weightlifting supplements to cause breakouts but not weight loss too! Thanks for the tip. I think I am going to let the other folks on another acne board I am a member of know this too!

 
Old 12-30-2004, 12:42 PM   #45
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Hi Geyes,

I've been doing research and the CortiSlim may have altered my hormones. Cushing Syndrome is one ailment that is caused by too many steriod type drugs (not that CortiSlim is one of those, but we never know). Whenever the cortisol levels in your body get messed up it causes trouble. The symptoms of Cushings is high blood pressure, red and flushing face, erratic periods, and acne (among other things). I'm having blood work done now, but can't get the results because my husband and I are currently snowed in and have been for 4 days. Once I'm out of here I can get back to the lab and get the results. I will certainly post what I've learned. I'm convinced the acne was caused by the diet supplements I took. Anyone else have this problem?

 
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