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Old 02-02-2003, 02:19 PM   #1
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Question Toners?? Are these really necessary?

I just don't feel clean enough by just cleansing with a mild cleanser. I do wear a heavy make up so I wanna feel really clean especially at night prior to applying my retin a. Perhaps I should be using a makeup remover b4 cleansing but don't want to try something else to irritate me. Can anyone suggest a mild , non-alcohol, non irritating non-drying ,toner? Many thanks.

 
Old 02-02-2003, 03:42 PM   #2
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DeeDee,

Try removing some of your make up w/ a very soft cloth soaked w/ warm water. Gently wipe off some of your make up w/ this then cleanse your face w/ your cleanser. I wear heavy make up too and this works for me. I don't use toners b/c they irritate my skin.

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Old 02-02-2003, 04:00 PM   #3
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I've heard not to use a toner. They usually contain alcohol, which is irritating, and colorings, which can cause a break-out. Besides, with retin-A, you don't want anything else irritating your skin.

I'm on Retin-A also. How long have you been on it? Are you on micro 1%? This is my second time on it, and I've been on it for a month, so my skin is turning over-yay

That wash cloth idea sounds good, I'm going to try it, thanks Misty

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Old 02-02-2003, 04:12 PM   #4
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Neutrogena's Alcohol-free toner and Thayer's rosepetal witchhazel toner are great. Also just plain rose water is a good toner, pure and cheap.

 
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Thanks you guys for responding so quickly...gosh I get answers faster from you all then a doctor on call! Anyways, Misty, I truly like the warm washcloth idea, my only concern is having to wash it out for fear of letting it hang around collecting bacteria........that's why I do like those disposable cleansing cloth ideas, but once again I fear the irritation factor.

And to Beat_Acne(and we will btw, ) yes, I have read in Paula Begoun's book that she liked the neutrogena toner you mentioned as well. The rose water idea sounds promising also...I'll need to do a little research on that one too.

For Emma....the retin A that I have used for many years (on & off mind you)is the .05 cream, but was recently given samples of the Micro version of .1% I'm kinda playing around with that one to see if I can jumpstart my results here combined with minocycline.

Thanks for the replies..........any and all are appreciated!

 
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I would suggest using a gentle cleanser, but maybe you could try washing it twice, carefully so as to remove all the makeup. Try to use a makeup that isn't going to irritate your skin (such as a mineral makeup like Jane Iredale or Bare Essentuals). If you are using Retin-A then I would not use a toner. Toners do remove makeup well, but they are also designed to clean and close the pores. If you do decide to use a toner, use one that is extremely gentle that does not contain alchohol.
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Old 02-02-2003, 06:21 PM   #7
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Hey.

Toners aren't nesseccary, but they are good if you feel your makeup isn't fully off. A few times after totally cleansing my face i've used toner and still found traces of makeup. I'd recommend something alchol free and maybe with natural ingrediants.

 
Old 02-03-2003, 09:48 AM   #8
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hey Deedee... I like witchhazel mixed with some green tea, and chamomile tea (brewed strongly, and cooled to room temp). The green is an antioxidant, and the chamomile is really soothing, and anti-inflammatory. The witch hazel has only 14% alcohol or something like that, so it's yet to bother me.

 
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Hi all,
I'm am still on the fence regarding toners......maybe they just make me feel clean, and Dramaqueen, I do agree choosing an alcohol free one is desirable.
Hey to Sedulous, wow, you are quite the chemist mixing your witch hazel and teas! I've read Witch hazel water contains 15% ethanol, and that content can be irritating, and also has a high tannin content, which has constricting properties on skin, that although can help with wound healing, can be a skin irritant when applied repeatedly to skin In any case, glad it is working for you). Nice hearing all your feedback everyone!

 
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that's a good point DeeDee... i should've mentioned that i don't use it every day... just when i feel like i'm not quite 'clean enough' or when i have some really irritating pimples...i give 'em a swab then. Sometimes with vitamin e oil too. I didn't know all that about witch hazel...i might rethink my chemistry!

 
Old 02-03-2003, 02:18 PM   #11
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I don't think so, they just make my face dry out even more. Plus I get all red and my skin starts flaking.

 
Old 02-03-2003, 03:57 PM   #12
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i wash twice to remove mega make-up on my face....toners are too irritaing on for my skin

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Old 02-04-2003, 08:43 AM   #13
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Wash once? Wash twice? Gosh, when I'm in there my kids know that that won't see me for a REAL LONG TIME....they think I'm taking a bath in the sink!! And I have taken all of you smart people's advice to abstain from these toners......I'm trying really hard to....... this week anyway. Perhaps I'm a toneraholic.

 
Old 02-04-2003, 09:48 AM   #14
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Avon has a toner called "Keep It Fresh" that I really like....it doesn't dry my skin out or cause breakouts (I'm 38 and have combo skin). I also like their "Keep It Fresh" cleanser and I use the cleanser & toner in the evening and just the toner in the mornings (since I don't have any makeup to remove at that time).

 
Old 02-04-2003, 12:43 PM   #15
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Hi Lady,
I have not heard of the Keep it Fresh line from Avon but will certainly inquire about it from my Avon girl. I too am not a kid here on these boards, and it's nice to know that I'm not alone in my struggle to clear my adult skin(that keeps acting like a kid). Thank you for your input.

 
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