Hi everyone. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Wayne. I am a skin care Specialist, not a Dermatologist. If any of you would like any answers to questions regarding skin care, acne, or skin care products, you can leave me a message here on the board. Now back to the topic at hand. How many people out there are using a good BHA product? BHA stands for Beta Hydroxy Acid, is similar in action to AHA but, and this is the big one, BHA can exfoliate inside the pore. That means it has the ability to cut through the grease and oil. It is also closely related to the asprin family, which makes it a a good anti-inflamatory. It is a great option for dealing with breatkouts and when combined with a good oil absorbing product and disinfectant, you stand a good chance at winning your battle with breakouts.
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Welcome Wayne! I have a few questions... I do not have oily skin (it's mostly dry) but I do have cystic acne. I have tried everything (except Accutane because its not for me). I didnt get acne until I was 30. I am frustrated trying to find out how I got acne and how to get rid of it. Please, any advice would be great. I am currently on Nicomide (rx vitamin) and Yasmin (BC pill). I wash with Dove sensitive soap. I do use Netrogena acne med and MSM cream as a moisturizer. any advice would be great! <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif">
Hi Debbie. Firstly, stop using Dove soap. All soaps, regardless of where they come from, are bad for the skin. The very ingredients that hold the bar in form can and do clog the pores. Seconldly, the pH is all wrong and leads to Bacteria breading on the skin making breakouts easier. I recommened you switch to Cetaphil cleanser. This is far more gentle. Now, are you using a good BHA (BETA HYRDOXY ACID)? BHA helps exfoliate the skin and also inside the pore, helping keeps things clean while speeding up cell turnover. You also need a disinfectant. Something to kill the bacteria involved with Acne. Benzoyl Peroxide works well in strengths 2.5 - 10%. Always start with the lowest. Also Hydrogen Peroxide works well at a strength of 3%. All the above will disinfect the skin. See what works for you. May i ask why you will not consider Accutane? So, lets go over the whole process. Was face with Cetaphil, apply BHA cream to skin, allow to soak in. Then apply 2.5-10% Benzoyl Peroxide cream. The only difference you should make with this routine is in the morning you should wear a sunscreen. other than that, the routine stays the same. Please give this a try, and let me know what happens. I will be thinking of you.
I don,t want to start a whole big thing...but you say soap is such a bad thing to use...it clogs pores..the ph is wrong..etc etc..if that were true wouldn,t like 80% of the population have acne...most of the people i know use some brand of soap....dove...ivory..and they have flawless skin..i might add i work at a grocery store and i see so many ladies buying dove and they have flawless skin also...I think the proplem is internal...hormones...which cause overactive oil glands
and bacteria love oily skin..
Hi Wayne, thanks so much for your info. I forgot to say I do use BP of 3% at nighttime. I have tried Cetaphil in the past but I guess I will give it another try. Thank you again for your kindness. <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif">
While I agree with most of what you are saying, I understand that BP negates the effects of a BHA. In other words, don't use them together. I combine Neutrogena Multi-Vitamin lotion (1.5% BHA) with Neutrogena AHA at night without BP or tea tree oil. Using BP and a BHA/AHA together equals dryness and not as good effectiveness.
I don't know where you got your information from about BP and BHA negating eachother when combined but it is totally incorrect. And i mean totally. BP and Retain A and other Retains is true, but not with BHA or even AHA. I am aware of the Neutrogena prodcut that contains BHA and also AHA multi vitamin treatment. I do not recommend the two together, why use a AHA when it already contains a BHA? As for irritation, yes of course it can and may irritate the skin, but you have to find a routine that works for your skin type. As for anyone that cant use BHA have about AHA? Or Hydrogen Peroxide?
Also, this is too vitamin man. Lots of people have flawless skin. They can ear tons of fat, be overweight, smoke, etc... and use any prodcuts on there skin and never breakout. But for someone with acne prone skin, why would you want to use products that can irritate the skin or clog pores? Like soaps? I think we should all remember that skin is more complicated than just "my friend uses Dove and she has lovely skin". Skin is not like that. And whatever anyone elses uses, bar soaps, regardless of the name can hurt the skin and clog pores, that is fact.
Actually, I got the information from a book regarding skin care that contains info. from derms. I'll double check though (could be that I confused Retin A and BHA's). The Neutrogena products that I use do not contain both ingredients-they contain them separately (the Multi-vitamin lotion has only BHA and the Healthy Skin lotion has only AHA. That is why I combine them (and with good results thus far).
I understand what you are saying about soaps wayne..
but that can also be said about cetaphil....it is not for everyone.. yes it is gentle...but there is a thing as being to gentle...i have oily skin and when i tried cetaphil it made my skin the worst its ever been..it did not clean my oily skin well at all...and when i switched to a natural soap my skin improved greatly.
My skin was MUSH on cetaphil....if you have dry skin
i guess its good for that...but oily skin...i don,t think so....just my personal experience.
He Wayne, I have a question for you too. I recently heard that using lemon juice out of a normal lemon can help your red marks..is this true and should I give it a try. I use Clearasil cleanser, tetracycline antibiotic and sometimes benzoyl peroxide 5% on a problem area. Thanx
Hey Guys, i love talking with you guys, not only are you all great but also very well informed. As for Lemon juice, i wouldn't recommened it. The idea is that the acid in Lemon juice will come how exfoliate the skin. AHA and BHA are derived from milk and sugercane. But rubbing milk or sugercane on the skin won't exfoliate skin. Lemon juice wont get rid of red marks though it can and will irritate the skin. Please don't use it. I am not perfect either. At the moment i have about seven white heads on my chin and a couple breakouts on my cheeks. Mine is mainly due to stress at work, which i am leaving so hopefully things will calm down. As for soap and Cetaphil etc... cetaphil is gentle and soap harsher but what works for one might not for another. Vitamin Man, if it works for you and you are happy, regardless of what i think, or anyone else for that matter, keep doing what you are doing. oil all the while disinfecting the skin.
Milk of Magnesium is very soothing to the skin and can disinfect (kill bacteria) plus, it can soak up more oil ouch for ouch compared to clay. Please try it Vitamin Man, you will be amazed. I thank you all.
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i used bha for about six months. initially i used oil of olay's age-defying salycilic acid cream. it improved the quality of my skin but contained irritants like fragrance and the waxy-coating of the cream wasn't ideal for acne. so i switched to paula's choice 2% bha liquid. this, in my opinion, is the best of the bha products i've been able to find (yeah, like all two of them :v)
i do recommend using bha to exfoliate your skin if it doesn't interfere with the rest of your routine. it was great for the appearance of my skin, making it much more radiant. but, through my experience, i found that it's not a cure in itself for cystic acne. perhaps for lesser, non-cycstic acne?
either way, look into the topic of beta hydroxy acids a bit. i think you'll find it very interesting.<p>[This message has been edited by moderator1 (edited 01-28-2002).]