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Old 09-24-2011, 03:21 PM   #1
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I've had mild/moderate acne since I was about 17 I think. I'm now 22 and I have tried everything that my GP (doctor) can prescribe for me. I've been using prescriptions since it began (including a few-month-long breaks now and again to see what the difference is between using the various treatment and not using them - basically because the difference the drugs make is so minimal). None of it works. I still have new, fresh spots every single morning without fail.

I have the strictest skin regime of anyone that I know. I wash my face twice a day with 2 different cleansers (one for morning which also exfoliates and one for night which is supposedly an "overnight" wash from Clearasil) I also tend to buy different facewashes each time they run out, in my desperate search to find something that actually works.

I also have incredibly oily skin (my sebum levels must be through the roof!) I find it really disgusting and am always trying to combat it, but to no avail. I've tried facewashes which are supposedly design specifically for oily skin (most of them just leave my skin looking REALLY shiny and within an hour (if that) my pores are back to what I call "leaking"! I use matifying moisturizers every day...my favourite has actually stopped being produced and when I found out I get really anxious because it's the only moisturizer that I've found that does an 'OK' job. I actually went down to my local Superdrug store and bought out all of the stock they had in that moisturizer! Ridiculous or what? I honestly have a cupboard full of them now lol. But I dread the day it runs out...

Anyway, I digress. On top of that I have tried face masks, toners, all the branded spot treatments that you see on tv, you name it. I've tried using nose strips too because I have terrible black heads all over my nose and I cannot get rid of them. I stopped "manually removing" them because it was making my break out in more spots by doing that, so I tried these nose strips and stuff but it really doesn't even remove half of the blackheads I have. So that's just another great issue I have to add in to the equation. I've even tried different kinds of makeups (which is embarassing for a guy to admit) to cover up my spots and try to stop the shine from the excess sebum.

So basically my face is always clean, I never touch my face anymore (I used to when I was younger but I learnt to stop) apart from when I have to, of course, do the daily angry spot-popping every single morning before I can leave the house...because I always wake up with 5/6 new white heads. Don't get me wrong, there are rare occasions that can last up to 2-3 days where my acne won't be that bad or even barely noticeable at a glance. But it's rare.

I've had so many nonsense suggestions thrown at me that I'm actually sick of it now. I've tried going lactose free, no difference. I've tried changing my diet, no difference. I eat well as it is, I rarely eat crap, hardly ever eat junk food, or sweets, or chocolate, or soda, or all the rubbish that normal people eat (and have perfect skin still)! God I don't even eat chocolately cereal like all my friends! I eat the boring healthy stuff (I actually like it though always have). People even used to say "oh it's because you don't get enough sunlight" well guess what, tried that too.

This is going on 5/6 years now and there are no signs of it getting any better. I think it's really tragic and sometimes makes me angry, that in this day and age there is nothing I can do about it?? It really effects my self-esteem and confidence, to the point where I feel like I can't do a lot of things with my friends, like go on holiday! Which I would LOVE to do SO much, but my face + direct sunlight = very greasy and unattractive. So that's a no-no. To be honest it's actually the excessively oily skin that effects me moreso than the acne, because it's just horrible. If ever I touch my face it's almost slimey, and all of a sudden my hand is covered in oil..

It's not so bad for girls because you can take a handbag and go powder your nose in the restroom and nobody will think anything of it. Not so simple for me... so I feel as if I'm limited as to how long I can stay out before having to go home and sort my face out. Or if I have a bag with me, then I'll make sure I have some matt moisturizer to take out before I go and take regular bathroom breaks for it..

I know that probably sounds like I'm over doing the moisturising and that may be the cause lol but no trust me I have tried going without it and it's not good.

My DR booked me an appointment with a dermatologist a few months ago because obviously I've tried everything that he can prescribe. So I went to see the derma about the possibility of trying Roaccutane. Typically, I was having one of my rare "not so bad" days that I mentioned before. He basically said my acne wasn't bad enough to warrant using Roaccutane what with all the side effects and stuff. I said well ok that's understandable, it's not so much the acne that bothers me it's the oily skin, and I personally think that the acne is subsequential to the oily skin (i.e. all the excess sebum which makes my skin greasy is the cause of all the spots) so I asked if there was any medication to combat the sebum problem. No.

He then went on to say that he thinks my spots are related to hair folicles and basically my spots are caused by shaving, and suggested I stop wet shaving. I can't do this because electric shavers aren't suitable for my facial hair, it just doesn't seem to work for me. I have really thick, dark facial hair and using an electric shaver is more painful than anything, and also ends up really patchy. But that's besides the point because as I said to the dermo, I don't shave my nose or forehead so how does that add up? Around my nose is usually where there spots are worse and most frequent.

I was really upset by the whole encounter because I basically left the hospital being told there's nothing they could do for me. And that was kinda my last resort...

Am I doomed to have bad skin for the rest of my life? It's really not fair. Some people don't even wash their face and their skin is fine! It's so frustrating.

So that's my story, sorry it's so long, but it feels good to get it off my chest (a little anyway).

 
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:33 AM   #2
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Re: Nothing works!!!

Hi

This is a problem many acne sufferers have, and I have researched it a great deal myself due to family members that have skin issues that very closely fit your description. The skin of those that tried what I am going to share did clear up the oiliness and their skin stayed clear or almost all clear for years, and it still looks good. Those that refused to even try and kept on dealing with the skin problem externally continued to have the same oily skin and outbreaks.

So I am only suggesting that you try to deal with your problem by supplying what your symptoms seem to indicate your body is lacking. The secret is to stop trying to dry it up from the outside (or with drugs), and instead feed it the essential B complex vitamins one needs to have balanced and healthy skin! It is simple in a way, but again, not so simple because it means taking your body needs seriously, learning what nutrients skin needs to be balanced and healthy and then giving it what it needs. Maybe not you, but most people just want to pop a pill and forget about it. Well, how does that work for them? That is the crucial question.

First let me say that drugs increase the need for B complex vitamins, because drugs use up B vitamins. Also, components of B vitamins always need to be balanced with all of the other components of B vitamins in order to produce health. B vitamin does not store in the body, and is used up by stress and other factors so most of us are deficient, daily. Vitamin B very clearly affects skin and nerve health, among other things.

But the one component of B, Pantothenic Acid, affects the oil balance of the skin. OH, I so wish doctors would learn nutrition rather than relying on drugs to try to squelch specific symptoms. That is not a solution, and there can be serious side effects!

OK, off that rant -

Do some research on the importance of Pantothenic Acid in the part it plays in balancing the oils in your body so they do not coagulate in the skin until oils seep out, and infections start. Check out the Mayo clinic info, and other reputable sources to learn about Pantothenic acid and also read up on the necessity to take it with a B complex vitamin or food source (such as raw brewer's yeast or carob, taken in water, apple juice, or sprinkled on steamed apples or applesauce or banana. You can get those in bulk at any health food store).

Avoiding chocolate and fats and oils have been proven to not slow the production of skin oils. The body needs fats, but it needs beneficial fat to assimilate fats, such as a teaspoon of cold pressed olive oil daily. That is easy to take. Put a half teaspoon of it on a cooked egg, or on a salad. I even put it on waffles or toast along with a little butter (yes real butter, not fake stuff).

Supplements are never a quick fix. The body has to heal and rebalance and that can take a few weeks before you see improvement, depending how consistent you are, and how much one stops picking at and treating the skin harshly, which you seem to have stopped doing. Good for you. There is no use in trying to dry up the skin externally. The body is made to do healing work when it is properly fed.

By the way, three of my family members have heavy beards and had acne where they shaved, too, but this as well cleared up when they began supplementing the B vitamins and and eating enough good fat. Not all fats are equal, and getting enough B complex vitamins is not easy to get from eating even what is considered to be a healthy diet.

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Old 09-26-2011, 02:09 PM   #3
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Re: Nothing works!!!

Hi thanks for your reply


I have a looked a little into Pantothenic Acid as you suggested. Can I ask how exactly your family members have gone about dealing with it? Are they just taking Pantothenic Acid tablets or is there more to it?

 
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Re: Nothing works!!!

They don't just take Pantothenic Acid pills. You need to take the B complex with it as mentioned in my other post. And to get some cold pressed olive oil every day, to help your body oils get balanced. Avoid hydrogenized oils and margarine. Drink plenty of water every day and avoid diuretics like caffeine and black tea as much as you can, at least until your skin heals.

You can research other vitamins that feed the skin, such as foods rich in vitamin A. I don't recommend taking a vitamin A. Get it from foods instead. ***** has some info on it
http://www.*****.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/skin-nutrition

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Old 11-19-2011, 02:05 PM   #5
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Re: Nothing works!!!

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Didn´t read whole post but check hormone levels in blood if u didnt.
You ever tried green clay(as mask or oral consumption) or cold-compressed extra-virgin coconut oil??
Well,these are those that I use and I have to say topical green clay mask really makes my skin smooth and white heads vanish after night.(use sterilized needle to pierce through white heads cuz finger extrusion will only cause scars.
Oral consumption(specific kind of green clay) simply detoxify your body from inside.Coconut oil is to literally sterilize your face(its very antimicrobial, antioxidant, antifungal, antibacterial, soothing, etc.) and also puts skin oil in balance.Its also highly preferred to use it in diet for its properties to fight off bad gut bacteria and high levels of saturated fats witch increase cholesterol levels witch is responsible for cell repair through whole body.
I would also advise you to stop all diary(for increased levels of animal hormones and antibiotics) unless its raw and organic.
Next are sugars(white/brown) and carbohydrates(cereal grains,soybeans-no bread) witch you must ingest on lower levels.But most importantly avoid grains with gluten,so gluten-free cereal grain like buckwheat can be used for bread).
So diet is somewhat paleolitic style with fruits,vegetables,nuts,eggs and alot of organic meat(especially cooked) and broth.Good diary alternative is oat milk,if ur scared for calcium but u get enough from broth and meat.
You can do medical procedure called Colon Hydrotherapy to get rid of all toxic waste that got trapped in your colon,but i wouldnt prefer it.
For supplements take magnesium and melatonin if ur having problems with sleeping therefore u must maintain healthy sleep cycle,aprox. over 8 hours of sleep(wake up when sun rises and go to sleep in dusk).
Physical exercise is very important,like running/gym.
Anyway these are things I hold onto,except for some things in diet part(im in university) and its going rly nice not only the face but whole body.

 
Old 11-20-2011, 05:38 PM   #6
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I used Tretonion Forte and it's not based in alcohol and Hydrogen Peroxide gel not mixed in alcohol and both cleared up my acne. I had really bad acne that required 2 microdermabrasion surgeries because of the scaring before I used these. I even used Accutane for a short time and it helped as well as an antibiotic. You can beat this seeing a Dermatologist or get your Dr. to prescribe these meds. I use spectoderm cleanser or spectrojel. Best wishes. Sara
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:14 PM   #7
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Hi mate,

My story is almost exactly the same as yours. I'm 30 and it's still the same despite having tried absolutely everything as you have done. I've been to the doctors, paid for expensive skin therapy at specialist dermatologists etc, nothing has helped.

However.

I recently went low carb ketogenic (a variation on the Atkins diet) for fitness training reasons, and in the eight weeks I was on it, I barely had a single spot. No greasy face either. I came off back onto a normal diet this weekend, and almost immediately the oily skin and spots came straight back in full force.

Going low carb definitely, 100%, fixed my acne problems that I've had for 15 years. The only problem is that it gave me really dry skin.

So my next adventure, is getting the perfect balance of both. But the difference in the last eight weeks has been phenomenal, enough to make me contemplate changing my diet to low carb permanently.

FYI, my diet before has always been fantastic. Just whole wheat foods, fresh vegetables, best meats straight from local butchers. I'm a sports nutcase (probably 15+ hours serious exercise a week). Don't smoke or drink. I lead a pretty much perfect lifestyle, but still could not get rid of the damn oil or acne.

 
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Hi mate,

My story is almost exactly the same as yours. I'm 30 and it's still the same despite having tried absolutely everything as you have done. I've been to the doctors, paid for expensive skin therapy at specialist dermatologists etc, nothing has helped.

However.

I recently went low carb ketogenic (a variation on the Atkins diet) for fitness training reasons, and in the eight weeks I was on it, I barely had a single spot. No greasy face either. I came off back onto a normal diet this weekend, and almost immediately the oily skin and spots came straight back in full force.

Going low carb definitely, 100%, fixed my acne problems that I've had for 15 years. The only problem is that it gave me really dry skin.

So my next adventure, is getting the perfect balance of both. But the difference in the last eight weeks has been phenomenal, enough to make me contemplate changing my diet to low carb permanently.

FYI, my diet before has always been fantastic. Just whole wheat foods, fresh vegetables, best meats straight from local butchers. I'm a sports nutcase (probably 15+ hours serious exercise a week). Don't smoke or drink. I lead a pretty much perfect lifestyle, but still could not get rid of the damn oil or acne.
Try cutting the wheat and gluten out of your diet and see if it helps make a difference.

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Hi OP, you must be driven absolutely bonkers with it!! just a tiny suggestion and my own theory from my own experiences as i have oily skin too. maybe you should try stop using all of these products on your face! these cheap (and expensive) over the counter products are, in my opinion, terrible! these products could be irritating your skin no end.

using harsh products on your face could be wearing down your skins natural oils making it more and more sensitive. it needs to build up a resistance over time, and using harsh chemicals on it are making it produce more and more bad oils to buid up the resistance! i used clearasil when i was young, about 17-18 and my face broke out awfully and was really sore! i stopped using it, i still had acne, but it wasnt sore. and about a year ago, i broke out on my chin pretty bad, and i said id chance clearasil again just to try it out. i used it for a week, saw a TINY difference at first, but afterwards it just got rawer and rawer.
about 3 years ago i used Clinique products and it nearly burnt my face off. after spending about 80euro on it, i had to dump it all! if your using one face wash in the morning and a different one at night, it could really be irritating it, as its not used to the different chemicals in the wash! you could try using a light wash once in the morning and just water at night, or visa versa.
or go to a health food store and ask them if they have anything that you can use that is all natural that will help you. im dont know where u live, but places like Holland and Barrett have great stuff, that shop is in the UK and Ireland, so where youre from might have the equivalent!
im just going by my own experience, now i just use simple natural products and stay away from chemically products! so maybe trying it might be no harm!

you are not destined to have bad skin, i think its awful that you were practically told nothing could be done, cos at this day in age, something can nearly always be done!!!!i went to a doctor before about my snoring, paid 50euro (our GP visits aren't free ) and she told me that i should just get a dust proof sheet (or something, im not sure), and that was it! i was furious, so i changed my doctor, and my new guy referred me to an ear nose and throat specialist and we're talking about surgery now after trying loads of different things! (which my old doc didnt even mention or hint that it was a possibility!!!) so please, dont give up, maybe get a second opinion! it may be costly but it will be so worth it! (sorry for rambling!!! )

 
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Thanks poozers it was a nice reply.

Well I have some better news...I have stopped using prescription medication for this (apart from Duac gel which i'm still using because I get it free) and I took a trip down to Holland & Barrett (health food shop) a couple of months ago and they recommended that I try something called 'Clear Complexion' pills which you take 2-3 times daily. It sounded a little iffy at first and I was a little scepticle but believe it or not, it has done more good than ANY of the prescription drugs I ever tried! I'm really impressed for such a cheap thing as well. I still get a few spots but I no longer wake up EVERY single morning with 5/6 new spots. Today and yesterday I woke up with 0 By no means would I say I have good skin but it's SO much better, AND I've noticed a big reduction in the oily skin, which was my main concern. It's not perfect, but it's better.

I strongly suggest anybody who is in my situation to try this out. Thanks for all the replies guys

 
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i've been taking a few spoonfuls of hemp seed oil (Manitoba Harvest brand) daily for the past week and it's pretty good.......

1) skin is calmer
2) scars lightening
3) skin less oily
4) virtually no new pimples while existing ones ''deflating''

 
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I'm currently experiencing the same problem, I've had acne since I was 14 years old and now I'm 21 years old and still have the same problem, I've tried everything thats out there and nothing works. i'm now even considering to start taking control pills as I've read that they may help reduce acne .

 
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so far it seems that insulin resistance may be the cause of acne and people have reported success using chromium picolinate/polynicotinate/chelated with cinnamon verum/cassia as well as glucomannan.

these 3 will help regulate blood sugar levels

 
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First of all, let me say KEEP POSITIVE. You are obviously an articulate and sensitive young man with a sense of humour. Don't let things like this get you down. I know exactly how you feel -it's a terrible curse, and terrible for one's self esteem. You sound like you are doing all the right things. It does worry me the amount of moisturiser you use but you say that your skin gets worse without it...

Two things worked helped me a lot - one was a clean pillow EVERY night and another was swimming in salt water (I lived in Spain and near the beach). The salt water was great as it dried out the oilyness of my skin and healed the infected pores.

You can try warm water and salt if you can't get to the sea...

Good luck!

 
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First of all, let me say KEEP POSITIVE. You are obviously an articulate and sensitive young man with a sense of humour. Don't let things like this get you down. I know exactly how you feel -it's a terrible curse, and terrible for one's self esteem. You sound like you are doing all the right things. It does worry me the amount of moisturiser you use but you say that your skin gets worse without it...

Two things worked helped me a lot - one was a clean pillow EVERY night and another was swimming in salt water (I lived in Spain and near the beach). The salt water was great as it dried out the oilyness of my skin and healed the infected pores.

You can try warm water and salt if you can't get to the sea...

Good luck!



i think it's the magnesium in the sea water that helped.

 
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