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Old 01-12-2004, 11:24 AM   #1
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Kids with ADHD and sports???

Do you enrol your kids in sports with ADHD????
My 7 year old ADHD grandson who we share custody of is currently on Ritilan for school and special events only. My grandson has previously been in Soccer and is now taking private swimming lessons. The instructor is have a very difficult time with him. It is very discouraging because of course he is all over the place and not paying attention. What does everyone else do? Do you still put your children in sports with other kids??? Do you give him Ritilan for them.?? What if it's an evening, should he get a Ritilan after supper, will he sleep. I would really like to know what you do about sports. Do you tough it out?? My daughter in law is at a very low point and is very discouraged and thinking of removing him and keeping him out of all sports until he's a teen. Please tell me how you all handle this situation. Thanks Karon

 
Old 01-12-2004, 02:07 PM   #2
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

i played sports my whole life.. played baseball from 10-12 and then football from 12-18. I had a hard time learning and staying 'in touch' during practice, but come my sr year, i started as guard for our football team. I believe the constant movement, and activity football provided, kept me from going insane.
I have add and not hte hyper of any kid.. but when im not on my meds, i do seem to talk out of space more and blurt comments without actualy thinking of what they mean or their actions.

In your situation, i would keep him on the meds for schooling needs, and just get him to a counselor for his behavior. he needs to realize WHY he does what he does, and WHY he does NOT need to do it..
the answer is not in a PILL, but in understanding and then meds come in ,. in the long run to help give an extra push..

good luck

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Old 01-12-2004, 02:28 PM   #3
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

If your grandson enjoys sports, I'd hate to see that taken away from him. Physical activity is good for any child, but especially beneficial for an ADD child. Your grandson needs to feel successful in some realm of his life. If school is difficult for him, but he feels good about sports, then by all means, encourage him there.

If the swim instructor is having a hard time with him, perhaps a different swim instructor could channel his energy more effectively. And tell your daughter-in-law not to feel guilty about the fact that he's more difficult than the other kids. If the instructor is making her feel that way, find a new one!

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Old 01-13-2004, 04:13 AM   #4
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

I have an 8yr old boy with ADHD. He has played T-ball every summer since he was 5. This past fall he play football and has also taken swimming lessons. First off: You say your grandson is on Ritalin..but still won't pay attention and is all over the place. Have you talked with the doctor about this? Is it possible for his meds to be adjusted?? also...As my son became more involved in school events later in the evening we switched to Concerta that way the med is given only one time (he don't have to have a dose at school or anywhere else) and Concerta being time-released lasts around (12hrs maybe a little less?) . I would suggest you speak with your doctor. My son loves sports and is very good at them - Being that your grandson has ADD/ADHD if he truly likes the sports definetly don't take him out.!!

 
Old 01-13-2004, 07:20 AM   #5
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My grandson is on Ritilan for school only, but we can give it to him for special events. He was not given one for his first lesson. I was just wondering if others give Ritilan for sports. I feel that he needs it to concentrate. The instructor did not complain, but during the class he was all over the place you know grabbing little floaters and other accessories they have around the pool and throwing them in the water etc. etc.. His mother could just see the instructor was discouraged and of course she was. Also he was on the Concerta for 2 weeks, did not eat and could not sleep. Even on the Ritilan now he is having trouble falling asleep because his tic seems to agitate him until he falls into the deep sleep, then the tick goes away. He tells me every time he falls asleep his eyes blink and wake him up. We are supposed to be seeing a different specialist in Feb. Heaven knows what they'll decide in the way of drugs. His teacher said yesterday she can tell he feels very stressful in school, and thats on the Ritilan. We are at our wits end and don't know what they'll do in the way of drugs. Anyone else find Ritilan makes the child sad/nervous/depressed??? Does Concerta do that???? Does Clonodone always make them so sleepy in school, can't they give a lesser dosage, he has somewhat sensitive skin so I don't know about the patch. We are all worried sick about him we all love him so much.

 
Old 01-13-2004, 07:48 AM   #6
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

Since your grandson has trouble in school, did his parents ask for help from school, like having an IEP plan in place, where a resource teacher comes in the classroom to assist him. The parents could also look into putting him in a different school. If they can afford it, I would recommend taking him out of public school. If they can't, then I think a public Charter school might be helpful, since they are known to have small class sizes. If he has trouble, I would definitely think about holding him back next school year. What are his grades. Can he still be an average student or does he make only D's and F's?

If you try another swim instructor, I would tell that person upfront that your grandson is easily distracted and that your are looking for an instructor who has a lot of patience.

I also have an 8 year old ADHD son and decided to wait until later to enroll him in any group sport. But that doesn't mean he won't have exercise. We are going biking, hiking, play kickball in the yard or park, go to the pool etc. I just know with my son that competitive sports like basketball and soccer etc. would not be a good choice for him at this time. He also has not expressed any desire to join any team and he is happy with the way we are handling it for right now.

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Old 01-13-2004, 09:22 AM   #7
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

Karon-totally understandable what you are going through. We knew my son was ADHD before actually diagnosed. Until he got in school is when we actually did meds. ( after counceling - diet changes - etc.. we tried many other options.) We have settled with Concerta. Yes it does mess with his eating - but every 3months he is examined by his doctor to make sure he isn't losing weight, and I just keep good foods around, when he does it it is nutrionally good for him. Yes it does mess with his sleeping some he has a hard time falling asleep. We start out at 8pm going to bed and he usually falls asleep by 10pm-wakes again at 6, so that is about 8hrs.. if we are lucky and it doesn't seem to be bothering him any. We haven't had any issues on Conerta with sad/nervous/depression - We did try Straterra (that is a non-stimulant) and he was very sad!! and nervous!!! all the time in addition to all he did was sleep!!!! Anyway-I do remember my doctor saying that one type of med. maybe better than another - there are others out there along with non-stimulants, just got to try and try differenet doses. My son was on a lower dose of Concerta than he is on know and it seemed to make him very jitterey-- the doctor uped it (which I couldn't believe he did my thinking was this amount was making him that way why would upping it be different) but it helped out tremendously!!! Hang in there - our whole ordeal of the initial diagnosis and starting of meds...was very hard on everyone around!!! hoping your doing the right thing...and not wanting your child to be a guinea pig....

 
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

My grandson is on a modified program at school and is doing okay there. He has the intelligence but even on Ritilan has some problems (though he is not mentally handicapped). His writing is terrible for one thing. The teacher says he has a high stress level in class but they are satisfied with his work. We help him at home but when not on the Ritilan it is difficult to get him to do too much. It just so happens that there is another student who has his own teacher for the afternoons only and his mother has agreed to allow 5 other boys in this little classroom. So my grandson is in this class for the afternoons and he is Identified. We've pressed before for his own teacher (since JrK) but they say there is no money. Any other school in this area would be the same.
When he was tried on Concerta for 2 weeks he was on 18 mg. per day. He is 59 lb. and 7 years old. Possibly his dosage was wrong???? What dosage is your son on and what is his age and weight?????
As for the swimming he is getting a private lesson.
I appreciate everyones help on this. Tx Karon

 
Old 01-13-2004, 11:35 AM   #9
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Before my son was were he is now on meds...he struggled in school, when we tried to help at home-it was frustrating for everyone-he was not on meds...that was one of the plusses with the concerta time-released. anyway My son is 59# (he was just at the doctor yesterday) and is 8yrs old. But I also heard that not only does weight matter it is how they burn the meds..?? I was scared this was too high, but my son is anything but...a zombie!!! In school he is doing extremely well!! He went from k-garden being very much behind then..1st grade still very much struggled. 2nd grade he really turned around and now in 3rd grade - (he still struggles reading/comprehending) but he gets special help with that he is right up to grade level academically. His biggest problem right now in school is he rushes through everything making stupid errors.. I meet with his teacher in her classroom after school at least every other month with a phone call in between and whenever othertimes necessary - his teachers have and I insisted (without being nasty) they adjust themselves around him!! If you are in a public school I believe it is there responsibility to teach and accomidate everyone!!! Look into it if your not satifisfied.!!!

 
Old 01-13-2004, 01:07 PM   #10
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Re: Kids with ADHD and sports???

Hi again Badkat:
What exact dosage of Concerta is he on and how long has he been on that???
It was just our family doc who tried our grandson on Concerta and he didn't even know much about it he had to call the Pharmacist and ask questions. Maybe he was on the wrong dose. Tx Karon

 
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I would not let a family doctor deal with your grandson's ADHD. He should be seen by a child psychiatrist. They are way more experienced in this field.

 
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One thing to consider for the swimming lessons is whether or not he feels that swimming is overwhelming or not. My son, also ADHD is seriously apprehensive about trying anything that may make him look stupid, or silly. If he thinks he's going to fail, he tries to give up.

The first day of swimming lessons he did not want to do anything, when I came home from work I discussed it with him, took the day off the next day and went to watch the process. Definately what I thought it was, that anxiety thing about trying something difficult; meaning 'failure'.

I went with him that night for a one-on-one at the swimming pool. We practised just relaxing, I'd hold him steady - not letting go. We didn't get to float until the next evening, however, What A Difference it was in the next days class...and for the rest of the week. Though still reserved he was much better at trying and was able to try floating, and even trusted the instructor to 'let go'.

Also, giving him goggles later he became much more comfortable with the water situation.

Hope this helps.

 
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Karon,
far from keeping a child from sports, I think it should be encouraged and is likely to be very helpful dealing with Adhd symptoms, stress, and depression. Some sports, such as highly technical sports (e.g. fencing) and team sports may not be such good choices, at least initially. Swimming, (Greco-Roman) wrestling, rope skipping, trampoline jumping, and long-distance running may be relatively good choices. Running, for example, may help a lot to release nervousness and restlessness and help to promote sleep. I realize this is a hard decision, but what I'm trying to say is that sports may actually help you a lot in dealing with the problems of adhd rather then being one of the problems of adhd.
Good luck.
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You need to be giving him the rialin on a reg. basis,everyday same time everyday.it is a pychological drug that cant do him much good taking it only for school.maybe giving a lesser dose on week ends is okay but you creating more problems for him,he's going on a emotional rollercoaster,to be consistant will make him more stable.my son was pre-k in 1 st grade
after 2 years in 1st. he was but on rialin and by 2 nd grade he was catching up.he is now 12 takes conserta cr,PLAYS SOCCOR EVERY YEAR,he
has a hard time making and keeping friends but when its time for teams to be picked he's always the star of the group cause is is that much better and faster.
Also a adhd/add kid is more likely to be paying more attention to what is being said to him if he is sqirming or tapping his foot or doinging some sort of little motion at the same time
this is because it releases some of the extra energy pouring out.if he forced to stay silent and still he will be concentrataing on doing just that,and wont hear a word being said.

 
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Karon-my son takes 54mg. every morning. We went through a phystratrist (?-spelling) for the first diagnosis--there they didn't only test for ADD/ADHD but also tested for learning disabilities and other behavior disorders... then..went through our counselor and school with our son's ped. After that we started on Ritilan 2x's a day... it worked but just ok... Then I went through a Behaviorial Clinic in my area-that strictly dealt with Behavior Disorders and specialized in ADHD-that is when we came to the Concerta Dosage He was on that for about 1year then we went off for about 6months or so and tried Starterra and went right back to Concerta now for almost another year. Also somoe else posted on giving it to him everyday....I also agree with that-The doctor we saw explained to us that children sense tension and the feeling of just not fitting in... WE dealt with it we accepted it...it was relatives that noticed my sons behavior and when he got friends in school - plain and simple he was treated different because he was hyper and all over the place. My son actually cried that he was trying to behave. School is what opened our eyes but also I believe we are doing the right thing he doesn't get the one day he is in control the next he isn't.!!!

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