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Old 05-23-2009, 05:00 AM   #1
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ADHD and eating disorders

I have had a life time of addiction problems. Late evening ice cream binging is my current addiction. Let's define "addiction" as an uncontrollable craving for something self-destructive.

Nearly every evening I've been downing a massive sized bowl of "Extreme Chocolate Moose Tracks", with nuts, strawberries, blueberries or whatever sweet berry available and topped with a mound of heavy whipped cream. Everyday I make the same resolution: Tonight I'll have something with a few thousand less calories such as celery with a little peanut butter. The one night I kept resolution it was with a lot of peanut butter stuffed in and above the trough - multiple troughs come to think of it.

In case the above sounds harmless to you, it's not. I am gaining weight and I haven't been able to get a handle on it.

To quote Thunor: "I can tell you first hand that eating disorders can, and do, go hand in hand with ADHD, as I continue to struggle daily with my own. Many times, I've described my issue as "I don't eat because I'm hungry, I eat because I want to eat." In my case, my body doesn't necessarily need the food I'm eating, but I eat because the act of eating triggers the release of the neurotransmitters I need. This is why I can be good all day but lose my control late in the evening; my meds have worn off and my brain is craving what it's missing." That's me.

BTW Thunor, you remain the master communicator.

To the point/question: Has anyone found a solution?

Bob

PS I've tried not having the stuff in the house. The problem we have here in Pennsylvania is stores that gladly sell me more - lots more.

 
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Old 05-23-2009, 05:55 AM   #2
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Re: ADHD and eating disorders

Son-a-gun. I know partially what the problem is. I begain Celexa 3, 4 months ago for resurging depression brought on by a few major life changes and catastrophes. Weight gain is a notorious SSRI side-effect. The medication does not cause weight gain, it causes a craving for sweets. The ice cream "binging" came shortly after I started taking Celexa. I didn't see it until after reading several recent posts about eating disorders and then writing this thread.

I don't know if I can quit the Celexa yet. I haven't fully settled into my new schema.

Wellbutrin? It has given me a nervous skittish feeling, a sub-anxiety type reaction is the best I can describe it. Wellbutrin does work well as an antidepressant for me. If it ain't one thing it's another with a buggy brain - let's face it.

The Adderall counteracts the Celexa's side-effect during the day. In the evening, as you all know, the Adderall has quit for the day. I'm left with the craving for sweets. I go for my favorite type sweets naturally.

Additional info, same question: Anyone know of a possible solution?

Bob

 
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Re: ADHD and eating disorders

Bob, you have to have your ice cream, there's just no getting around it. The meds have worn off, you're craving something sweet, p'nut butter and celery just won't cut it! It will haunt you until you give in..... okay, maybe I've just fought and lost that battle one too many times....

But there are ways to do it healthier than what you are doing! FIRST, you do have to stop blaming the medicine.... or lack of medicine, I guess.... Just because the meds have worn off, it doesn't mean you suddenly lose all sense of self control! If we keep telling ourselves that it's not our fault, or we can't help it, or we just can't stop ourselves from being self destructive because the meds have worn off, then it becomes way too easy to make really stupid choices.... like loading up that ice cream bowl! You do have to take control and make the choice to be healthier with your late night snacking! You CAN do it, you just have to want it!

Like try switching from Moosetracks (just go to the freezer, grab the Moosetracks, and chuck it into the trashcan.... do it NOW!!!), to something light. Not the gross light, but go for Edy's/Dreyer's slow churned 1/2 the fat kind.... they have a gazillion flavors and they're really good! BUT don't let the 1/2 fat label talk you into eating more.... cut down to one or one and a half servings.... if you don't have a kitchen scale, I highly recommend getting one.... they really help with keeping servings in check!

My personal favorite light ice cream is Bluebell light Homemade Vanilla.... but you can't always get it because it's only sold in certain states.... Outback Steakhouse sells it by the tub, I think.... but then you'd have to fight off that steak temptation.... mmmmm.... now I'm hungry.....

Anyway, if you need toppings, stick with fresh fruit (like the berries you mentioned), chopped nuts, cereal..... yes, cereal.... Kashi Go Lean Crunch with vanilla ice cream and a sprinkle of cinnamon is really good.... Grape Nuts are good too. If you need something chocolatey, go for dark chocolate covered raisins, or dark chocolate covered cranberries.... but keep your serving sizes in check!!!

AND.... if you're going to indulge with a late night ice cream snack, then you might try cutting back on some of your calories during the day, and add in a bit of extra exercise....

AND if you can do it, instead of ice cream, try having a bowl of cottage cheese and applesauce (1/2 a serving of each) with a sprinkle of cinnamon/sugar (mix it ahead of time with more cinnamon than sugar....) and chopped pecans, almonds, or walnuts. I personally loathe cottage cheese, but my husband made this for me one night, and I just ate it to be nice, but I found that I really liked it! I crave that almost as much as I crave ice cream now! My husband mixes raisins, craisins and flax seed into his, and he loves it. I like it plain....

If you really want to resist the ice cream, you could try brushing your teeth more, or chewing minty gum.... that works for awhile....

ANYWAY..... I don't think you should deny yourself your ice cream. I just think you ought to do it a bit healthier. And you'll find that once you take away it's "forbidden" status, and make it okay to do, you won't want to do it as much. I don't know what it is, but that whole "forbidden fruit" thing just makes it so much more exciting and irresistible! Once it becomes acceptable.... well, it just doesn't taste as good!

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Re: ADHD and eating disorders

marisuela,

Powerful. So good I copied to Word, used Times New Roman -12 pt so I can read it without glasses on, and am sticking every word on the fridge - freezer section - so I can't get past the door without seeing it. Oh, large 16 pt header "New Rules." It fit on one sheet with margins set at 0.5 all around.

I have one measly fix left. It's only about a small pint at the bottom of the bucket. I just can't toss it. Tonight will be my last binge. Tomorrow - MONDAY morning - "New Rules" apply.

Besides either wife or myself have to see the dealer for new supplies. The Kashi Go Lean Crunch, a staple in our house, is currently out-of-stock, now back ordered. My wife owns some Vanila yogart and ice cream but has note on it - "touch and you die."

You saved me $90 smackers. I was going to address issue at next psyche visit - Jun 4. Now I can blow my ninety on one of the many other creeping, crawling things, creeping, crawling around in my brain.

I swear it - I'm on the moose track wagon tomorrow AM. Hmn, sounds bad. On the ice cream wagon with the moose tracks?

I just can't toss my last fix. Please hear my weeping and sobbing.

Thank you so much,

Bob

 
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Re: ADHD and eating disorders

marseula,

I tossed it. The symbolism has helped me with past addictions - tobacco and alcohol - crushed the last half pack of smokes, throw out the remaining bottles of beer. Meth called for rehab but I swear the sign-in act had more to do with done-with-it-forever than the therapy itself. Incidently, by arrangement with my pdoc, my wife has control of the Adderall vial with license to rat on me if I should try anything sneaky. Works.

Buggy brain drives me nuts. Drives other people nuts too. The ones that got to deal with me.

Bob

 
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