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Old 11-19-2010, 01:54 PM   #1
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Question Generic Vyvanse.

Hey yall, does anyone know if generic Vyvanse is effective as the non-generic Vyvanse? My sons medical coverage doesnt cover the regular Vyvanse for some dum reason but will cover others like Conserta. If it does work like the regular Vyvanse then i will check to see if his coverage will take care of it. Thank you to anyone that can help with my question.
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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

There is no generic Vyvanse.

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Old 11-19-2010, 05:25 PM   #3
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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

As pup said. Vyvanse is a very new medication, brought to market by Shire to replace Adderall as their primary medication due to the expiration of Adderall's patent. I suspect it will remain under patent for some years yet, and as such there will likely be no generic for a while.

The closest medication that comes in generic formulation would be Dexedrine, which is pure dextroamphetamine (the same as Vyvanse, sans the attached amino group), but doctors in the US tend to shy away from prescribing dex due to the supposedly increased likelyhood of abuse. I believe Bob managed a prescription and found a lot of trouble finding a pharmacy that would fill it (ironic, in Canada it's much easier to get dex than Ritalin).

I've heard this 'insurance will cover Concerta but not Vyvanse' before, and I'm not sure why. As patented meds, I would assume the cost is similar, and while they're similar meds, they're not identical, Concerta being methylphenidate, rather than dextroamphetamine. I would be interested to hear the reasoning.

 
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but doctors in the US tend to shy away from prescribing dex due to the supposedly increased likelyhood of abuse. I believe Bob managed a prescription and found a lot of trouble finding a pharmacy that would fill it (ironic, in Canada it's much easier to get dex than Ritalin).

I've heard this 'insurance will cover Concerta but not Vyvanse' before, and I'm not sure why. As patented meds, I would assume the cost is similar, and while they're similar meds, they're not identical, Concerta being methylphenidate, rather than dextroamphetamine. I would be interested to hear the reasoning.
Dexedrine CR was most effective for me, hands down, no second place contender insight. It gave me transparent ADHD symptom control similar to the many service programs now running on your computer unaware to you until one quits or malfunctions. Adderall has always required me to carefully control both timing and quantity of each dose to prevent crashes that would put me to sleep or cause anxiety and depression symptoms. I have to carefully control Adderall so it can control me. GADS. Nothing transparent about it at all.

A few months back a pharmacist told me that generic Dexedrine CR is no longer available. The latest Internet news has it that generic Dexedrine CR is available again but through Teva Pharmaceuticals. Teva now owns Barr. Barr was the manufacturer of the discontinued generic Dexedrine CR I did so well on for a few months.

I'll check with my local Walmart to see if Dex CR is again available. I'll ask my shrink for it next visit if it is.

Why the differences in price, Thu? Drug companies are sometimes driven by interests not in our best interests. Sometimes profit is put first, the balance of times, it's sheer greed.

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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

Thanks for the info Pup,Bob and Thunor, I will also look into Dexedrine around my area and see if its still availabe here. Do yall think my wife and i should try and push our sons Dr. to see if he can get Vyvanse with his coverage somehow considering that our son is starting to have negitiv results for the past month on Conserta? Like i have posted before,our son origanaly started on Vyvanse,Clonidine and Risperidol and after we moved and got medi-Cal,the coverage wouldnt cover Vyvanse so thats the reason we had to opt for something else but if Vyvanse is what works for him then we want him on it again.
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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

Randy,

I am NOT advocating Dex CR as the panacea med for young and old with ADHD. It is what worked best for me. Thunor, on the other hand, does better on Adderall + Wellbutrin. Most children seem to do better on one of the methylphenidate based meds.

My GP has twin sons with ADHD. She is my doctor because she gets it big time. We are playing with a disorder that can and often does devastate people's lives when left without medical management. No, she won't treat me for ADHD anymore than she is willing to treat me for Hepatitis C. Specialists are called for in both cases.

Interestingly both ADHD and Hep C carry stigmas. ADHD? You are a druggie looking for drugs. Hep C? You druggies deserve Hep C. My problem is I am ADHD and because of that I have Hep C. My ADHD has always "forced" me to bluntly tell medical pros that I got Hep C shooting speed 40 years ago. If you don't like it, go F yourself. Some have taken me up on my offer. I do so hope they enjoyed their experience.

Actually, Randy, I am sick of it. Why do we have to be penalized? I did not ask to be born with ADHD. I didn't choose it anymore than those with autism or aspergers or downs syndrome choose those disorders.

It is so evil. Your son needs Vyvanse. Your insurance carry won't cover it. What the hell do you pay premiums for?

I have no answers. And rants don't do none of us any good. I'm powerless to help you.

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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

I would certainly talk to the insurance company to see if you can get and explanation. You might talk to the doctor about documentation for the insurance company that Concerta and Vyvanse are not the same thing, and are not interchangeable in all cases.

 
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Re: Generic Vyvanse.

Bob, I totaly agree with you and it isnt fair. I am a month and a half away from being a certified nurse assistant and im doing it to help others that cant help themselves. Since my wife and i got together i realized i missed my calling going thru Food joints for years instead of going into a medical field to help others and try to understand everything but you and thunor are and have been since i joind this site the greatest influences for me to be a voice for ADHD and Bi-polars,I may not have those but im still learning for the good of my 2 boys and others like you and Thunor. Thank you again my friends!!!!!
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Bob, I totaly agree with you and it isnt fair. I am a month and a half away from being a certified nurse assistant and im doing it to help others that cant help themselves. Since my wife and i got together i realized i missed my calling going thru Food joints for years instead of going into a medical field to help others and try to understand everything but you and thunor are and have been since i joind this site the greatest influences for me to be a voice for ADHD and Bi-polars,I may not have those but im still learning for the good of my 2 boys and others like you and Thunor. Thank you again my friends!!!!!
Thunor, We have that chance on the first of Dec., we origanaly had our sons next appt in the middle of next month but we requested a sooner appmt due to the circumstances and the problems with our son. Thanks again my friend.
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