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Old 09-18-2003, 01:15 PM   #1
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Hello all. I thought I would open up a thread for the purpose of discussing the quotes in a previous message of mine entitled "A+ Information on ADD ADHD "

If you can't find the original post of all the quotes please check here: [url="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001402.html"]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001402.html[/url]

Lets not argue, lets just disagree. Just because somebody has a different opinion does not make them 100% wrong and it does not mean they are bad people.

There are all types of people on this board. From what I have read most are parents and then there are a few folks who have ADD/ADHD.

Everyones opinion is valid!

Now lets talk. Many of the quotes were related to medication. If there are any other topics you would like to see quoted let me know and I'll see about finding some that relate to what you are looking for.

Some things I would like people to start talking about on this board are:

What is your definition of ADHD?

Do you consider it a handicap/disorder?

What treatment worked best for you/your child?

Who first suggested ADD to be the problem in you or your child?

What do you think about the high number of prescriptions being written for medications such as ritalin after only short evaluations that last between 30min to a couple of hours?

What are your responses to the quotes in the previous post? Linked above and also found here: [url="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001402.html"]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001402.html[/url]

Then of course anything else you may want to talk about that is related to ADD.

Those are just some of my ideas about things I would like to get people talking about. Of course you don't have to answer any of those questions. It's just suggestions for some conversation starters.

Have fun, share info, and please remember BE NICE!

 
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Old 09-18-2003, 02:36 PM   #2
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Well, I know it does exist but if they are going to claim it to be a biological disease/defect, then there should be a test to measure dopamine(or whatever, since they use non-dopamine meds for it these days) and also there should be a measure of what is normal amounts/levels. Just like measures of blood pressure, sugar levels, thyroid levels and hormones, there should be more exact science in this. This is especially important when the first line of treatment is a group of hazardous, even harmful drugs. Nobody in their right mind would agree to chemotherapy on the assumption their symptoms are cancer caused; same for insulin if one only had symptoms of diabetes without measuring blood sugar levels. So if psychiatrists want to play in the biological backyard of actual disease, they should play by the same rules.

 
Old 09-18-2003, 07:04 PM   #3
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I think that it does exist but it is not as common as people make it out to be. It is way too overdiagnosed. It seems like if a child is having any trouble with school or behavior they just automatically diagnose ADD. I think that there are a lot of children out there who just have different learning styles, personality types, are a little more active than their peers and are on these hard core meds supposedly treating ADHD. I believe that most children who carry an ADHD diagnose don't have a disorder. They are just different.

I think that there are a small portion of people who actually have the "disorder" and could benefit from treatment. Even so, I dont think these medications should be used as a first line treatment.

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I am surprised that I am the 1st "Adder" that has replied to this post but I feel like I had to give my opinion. First of all, here is a quick outline of my past.I am 24 years old, diagnosed w/Add when I was in 7th grade, not an easy diagnosis at all. I went through 3 months of intense therapy, plus ritalin vs. placebo testing. Finally, after months of this they diagnosed me with ADHD, they started me on I think 10mg of Ritalin a day and ,I must admit saw immidiate changes in my life. Everything seemed so much clearer to me. I could actually sit through a class w/out being so distracted and so bored I would of done anything to get out of class. (that led to many trips to the office in my past)I was loving school, Everything was great and I felt so much better about myself. Before I used to cry and freak out during every test because I couldn't get my mind to slow down and concentrate on the test itself. Now everything was different. So on I went in school, taking my meds and feeling great. I enrolled in an alternative school in 10th grade to get some extra help and that was great too. 11th grade I decided to go back to "regular" high school. That didn't work so well for me....pretty soon I started getting into trouble and hanging out with the wrong crowd. My Mom's insurance ran out cause of her job and my ritalin was no longer available to me. Note that at this time I was still taking no more than 15mg's a day. When I didn't have my meds anymore, I found myself back in 7th grade, unable to get through a day of school. I tried therapy, counseling and everything else.....nothing worked. Eventually I found myself hangin with people who used Meth, up intil then I was completly against it. Bottom line is I tried it once, I soon found out that if I did it in moderation it was almost like being on ritalin, not that it made me feel high or stay up for days or anything like that but it actually settled me down and made me feel normal. This went on for about a year, I watched my friends do more and more meth and nobody could ever figure out why I was so happy with a tiny ammount of it. It was because I didn't do it to get high, I did it to function normally. Anyways, I finally got medical insurance and went to my doctor, I told him what had been going on and said I need you to help me get off this crap, he prescribed me a very very low dose of adderall and monitered me very close, once every 2 weeks i went to see him. Since that day in his office I have never used any type of meth, my doctor saved my life, he helped me through a very tough time in my life. Like I said before I never did meth because I got high, I did it to make me feel normal. Basically here is my point...........everyone seems to talk about how putting your children on meds is so bad and how there are so many other things out there to try. I read a comment that said "all they need is good nutrition and a happy enviroment" To me that is insane, are you saying all I needed was to eat good and be happy and none of those problems I had would of existed? Please....I read where people compare stimulants to poison, or say that ritalin & adderall are narcotics, " no different than heroin & Cocaine".Sorry but that is just not true, in moderated doses, stimulants can be life savers for people. They were for me.I honestly think there is something wrong with my brain and it doesn't function like everyone else's.. All I know is that I read this website everyday and I just wish I was reading about more adults who have had success with the meds they are on. Instead I feel like people here spend so much time putting down stimulants and not stopping to think how helpful these medications can be to some people. Anyways, I am still on Adderal to this day, I switched to the Xr and I take 60mg a day,I honestly don't know where I would be without the help of this medication! For the parents out there, don't be afraid your child is going to end up some mentally dissabled drugie from these meds, if they work you will be able to tell and if not try something else! Again this is just my story and I would love to see other people reply with the same situations as mine!

 
Old 09-18-2003, 09:48 PM   #5
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Ocean FYI dont make false statements about other people on the board...its not polite! You are not the first ADDer to respond to the post. I have ADHD. If you dont know who does and does not have ADD/ADHD then whats the point of saying that you are the only ADDer to respond? Just because you may disagree with what I think or anyone else thinks doesnt mean that they dont have ADD. Having ADD does not equal to having the same opinions and thoughts on the subject as you do.

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