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Old 06-01-2004, 10:18 AM   #1
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I tried to post before and do not know what happened to it I have been addicted to vicodin for almost 3 years now and am trying to stop cold
I see a pain specialist for back pain and he allows me 1 vicodin es 2 times a day well I ran out No suprise and do not go back till the 7th I am planing on telling him I dont want them anymore But how long can I exspect to withdrawl some have alread started bad pain moodiness feel like jumping outta my skin I ussaly take only 4-6 a day exsept when I have to go somewhere or do something or will be in a strange setting then I take as many as needed up to 10 a day can someone please tell me when this will end also I go to my pm doc tommorow and the will give me an iv with demerol and something they call alph before they do my treatment
They used to give me fentanal in it but that made me really sick to my stomach
So my ?? is will that effect me withdraing and drag it out
How long is this gonna last
and what else can I exspect I know it will get worse before it gets bette
Is it dangerous or just uncomfortable withdrawlin on your own
Sorry this is so long but I really need some advice bad
Please anyone

 
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:02 AM   #2
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call your Dr. and ask his/her advice. wd's can be dangerous. best thing is go into a detox center where they can monitor you. yes it is very uncomfortable but you will live. in a detox center they can give you different meds to help w/ the wd symptoms.
ggod luck and keep in touch.

 
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:04 AM   #3
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Okay...now I see that you are going to get an IV of demerol. What is the IV used for? Are you in chronic pain(back, neck)??? If you are not in chronic pain then you need to just kick all of the opiates. I wouldn't do an IV of opiates if I were you. If you are kicking 10 vics per day then it shouldn't be too terribly bad....bad enough....but not as bad as a 30-50 vic per day habit. It is not that dangerous...you won't die from the withdrawals. It is best to go to a detox then a rehab(28 day minimum) so that you'll get the tools in order to STAY OFF DOPE. Some rehabs allow patients to keep their children there with them. There is nothing scary about rehab. They'll wean you down on darvocett over about 3 or 4 days and it isn't as bad as cold turkey....plus you have medical supervision.

be strong,
w

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:06 AM   #4
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I called my doc but the state that I am in my insurance pays for No kind of rehab detox or anything and they requier an upfront deposit or something like that and I just do not have the money I wish I could find a detox but it is just to exspencive

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:11 AM   #5
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Okay...now I see that you are going to get an IV of demerol. What is the IV used for? Are you in chronic pain(back, neck)??? If you are not in chronic pain then you need to just kick all of the opiates. I wouldn't do an IV of opiates if I were you. If you are kicking 10 vics per day then it shouldn't be too terribly bad....bad enough....but not as bad as a 30-50 vic per day habit. It is not that dangerous...you won't die from the withdrawals. It is best to go to a detox then a rehab(28 day minimum) so that you'll get the tools in order to STAY OFF DOPE. Some rehabs allow patients to keep their children there with them. There is nothing scary about rehab. They'll wean you down on darvocett over about 3 or 4 days and it isn't as bad as cold turkey....plus you have medical supervision.

be strong,
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Yes I am on it for chronic back and neck ppain also for migranes they give me the Iv before they do treatment wich involves freezing the nerves in my head with a big long needle looking thing If I was just having triger points done then I would tell them NO IV but they do not do the nerve freezing without an IV I told them No I didnt want it one day and they said that I had to have it because it is very painfull the first few minitues before the nerve gets frozen
I just do not know I am so on edge I called my mom to come and get my son because I am to the point to where I can barely move now

Also I have thought about taking stakers hoping for some energy could this make things worse??

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:19 AM   #6
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I would not take the stackers. They contain ephedrine, which can be very harmful to you and I have read where some people get addicted to ephedrine. I thought the FDA was trying to ban ephedrine based pills , not sure?

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Old 06-01-2004, 11:24 AM   #7
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I would not take the stackers. They contain ephedrine, which can be very harmful to you and I have read where some people get addicted to ephedrine. I thought the FDA was trying to ban ephedrine based pills , not sure?

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So did I but they still sell them in my area even those stupid white crosses these are supposed to be ephedra free and I could not find where it says it has it in it But after I thought about it you are right it probobly wouldnt be a good thing

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:41 AM   #8
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hang in there sweet one

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Old 06-01-2004, 11:47 AM   #9
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Thank you for all your support I know that I can get through this (and now I am getting all teary) I do actually have a slipped disc and other stuff wrong with my back but It could more then lickely be maaged with tylanol or something simple This is so hard I tried to lay down and could not rest and some of the stomach problems are starting I will also see what I can find but I do know that there are limited services in my area and the one place take a while to get into But I can do this
Anyone out there with husbands bf ect ect that do not really get it I know he cares and wants me to stop but I just wish he understood what I was going through and how hard it is on my body and mind

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:50 AM   #10
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Angel... you need to talk to your Dr. ASAP about narcotic use in migraine treatment. come to find out it was actually cauising the migraines to be worse. i spent alot of time with a nuerologist (one of the best) b/c i had been hospitalized for 2 wks w/ migraines. narcotics will cause transfer headaches and rebound headaches. it is a terrible cycle. there is abook "heal your headache" by Dr. David Buchholz which is very helpful. i never take any narco. anymore for the headaches. there are other ways to treat this. Post any questions you have. i feel i can be of some help.

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:56 AM   #11
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There is a chapter in the AA "Big Book" entitled "To the Wives". Your husband can substitute the word "husband" for "wife" and the word "dope" for "alcohol" and it'll help him understand. Try and call AA or NA to ask about local treatment facilities which are run by the state.

hang in there

 
Old 06-01-2004, 11:57 AM   #12
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In my experience, narcotics for migraine treatment is counterproductive, especially codeine. The newer triptan drugs are far more effective, as they reduce the blood vessel constriction that creates these headaches. In the old days, I would be doped up and out of commission for 24-48 hours. Now, 6 mg. of Imitrex statdose, and the headache is completely gone in 30 seconds, with full ability to function. Any decent pain doctor should know this.

 
Old 06-01-2004, 01:18 PM   #13
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I quite c/t two weeks ago yesterday. I was up to 10-12 percs with 3-4 oxyís a day. Like you I was popping pills for around 3 years. The first week was rough! I felt like death warmed over, days 2-4 were my worst. Last week wasnít to bad but my stomach and legs were still bothering me. Now on day 15 and Iím still sore but I think that more from skiing last weekend. Iím lucky to get more than 4 hours of sleep a night and still donít have much energy but Iím managing.

When I quite I started taking a multi vitamin, vitamin C, St. Johní Wart and lots of Imodium. I know some people disagree with this but I also took 2 somas and a xanix a day for the first week. Second week I switched the soma for advil and dropped the xanix last Wed. Those two at least made it where I could function at the office and take care of everything at the house during all this.

Using demerol will absolutely prolong the w/dís. The day after getting pumped full you will feel like itís day 1 all over again. Have you ever tried imitrex for the migraines? Wife gets them all the time, she claim the spray is the only thing that really helps her. Good luck, you will start feeling better in a few days.

 
Old 06-01-2004, 10:38 PM   #14
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I haved tried imitrex and ibiprofin but I am somehow alergic to both have also tried difrent kinds of antiinflamatory meds and but can not take them withought swelling like a ballon and bad rash my PM doc has tried arthritis meds also and I can not seem to take them it seems like anything with an antiinflamatory agent causes a bad alergic reaction

I do have somthing called remeron that is an antidepresent that I took durring the day to help me sleep along with 2 phenegran(have had a lot of vomiting) and 100mg norflex to help me sleep this afternoon
I have a terible headache now and my shoulders are so tight and hurt so bad But I know I can get through this
I will also try finding the book and having hubby read it

 
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