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Old 09-27-2004, 05:31 PM   #1
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Question been away, need help!

Hi, everyone. I've been absent from the boards since about Jan, but here I am again, same situation as before. I have major lower back problems, and get prescribed Vicoden every month. I've been on it for about 5 yrs. I've tried to go off of it, about 3 times. The pain just gets unbearable. So I go back. My doc keeps telling me that the only thing that is going to make my back situation better (for now) is meds. My problem...I'm about to be out of them, b/c I blew through this months supply in like 2 weeks. (I live in Fla, and between all the freakin' hurricanes, and the pressure changes from that, my back just went crazy this month.) I know I am addicted to these things. And I know that I'm not going to get anymore until my refil comes up. Never mind trying to quit, I don't even know how to do that right now. One thing at a time. How do I get through the next few weeks? I'm so freakin scared, of the pain, the stomach cramps, the insomnia. I know this is my fault, but like I said, I'm trying to deal w/ it one at a time. I don't know, maybe all this crazy weather messed w/ me and made me more susseptable, who knows. It's just like everywhere I look there is all this massive distruction, and pain. And I know I've got 2 weeks of hell to look forward to.

After that long-*** paragraph, does anyone have any advice on how to get through these next few weeks? I am on prozac already, but I also have a RX for valium, could that help? (I don't usually even get that one filled, so I don't really know). I just wondered if it (valium) could take away some of the anxiety and "needles and pins" feelings. Does anyone know anything else that could help? I need to make a little "withdrawel" pack. If wd'ing isn't bad enough, we are running on generator power here (after the 2nd hurricane, we invested in one, THANK GOD!), so its going to be like wd'ing in a really uncomfortable environment. On the plus side, I do have the support of a very wonderful and loving fiance. Just any tips or anything would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else out there in FL, hope you are all ok from hurricane Frances! Thanks for taking the time to read my novel!

 
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:21 AM   #2
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Re: been away, need help!

hey froggirl!!! How are ya doing??? I get the SAMe nasty symptoms, for stomach cramps i use....bentyl..which you can only get by prescription, or immodium, some muscle relaxers work,if all else fails...heating pad and some warm chamomile tea. I do think the valium would help with the "pins and needles"...but be VERY CAREFUL...don't start trading addictions at this point of the game.
I feel for you, because you are a chronic pain patient, it must make it so much harder on you. You just stay strong and put together a w/d package and try to get thru it. I also heard that "midol" works for the stomach cramps...i have yet to try it though.
I hope you feel better soon.
luv,
LISA

 
Old 09-28-2004, 04:37 AM   #3
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Re: been away, need help!

Hi froggrl-
Sorry bout the lack of replies..i just woke up and saw your post for help-
are you going thru w/d now-that is such a drag-im sorry-cos the fact you are a pain patient..you need those meds-there highly addictive..oh boy..
yeah..bentyl for stomach is the good/gotta have immodium..how about the hospital-could you go in and tell them-you need assistance?Your dr. will not refill...lots of water-take the valium..you'll need it but no longer than a week.
good for back spasms-etc..and they give you librium in detox..
Hope all goes ok..
peace..
ggrl65

 
Old 09-28-2004, 01:02 PM   #4
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Re: been away, need help!

Thanks lisa and goddessgirl (hope I got the name right). Hospital is sort of out of the question, b/c of the money. That's the way I would do it if I could pick. I think it was Chromeyellow, but someone posted a really awesome, helpful thread about the 3 different ways to detox. I definately wish I could "rapid detox". Oh well, that costs money and I don't have it. Right now I'm just thanking my lucky stars that I have these valium RX's (I get the RX every month, but don't usually fill it, cause I haven't wanted to add another pill to the mix - Like Lisaahub said. But I'm pretty confident that I wouldn't get addicted to them...I don't like them that much.) Only 1 addiction here, and its to anything w/ hydrocodone in it. God, just typing the word; how pathetic is that??? I appreciate both of your replies, just knowing there are other people out there that care enough to reply does help ! I don't know the particulars of why either of you are on the board, but good luck to both of you. Thanks again!

 
Old 09-29-2004, 07:19 AM   #5
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Re: been away, need help!

Frogirl-
Checking in-hows the detox going???
((((big hug)))))...those dang pills...
I wish i could magically remove your pain..but i am going to do my morning prayer-and you are in there..with love..
Just some peace and relief..for you my dear...
Hang tough-its worth it-a slave no more..
ggrl65

 
Old 09-29-2004, 11:22 PM   #6
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Re: been away, need help!

thanks, goddesgirl, you are such a sweet-heart, to be worried about others w/ all you are going through! (I read your reply on the other thread, the one where everyone was wondering how you are doing.) I feel the same way you said, it amazes me the way everyone is so kind and caring and looks out for each other on this board. Just amazing. Glad your immidiate family is doing well. Just out of curiosity (since I'm not a cat, and it can't kill me - sorry REALLY bad joke) what is the medication you guys refer to as sub? Is it to help get off pills? Thanks for keeping me in your prayers, I'll do the same for you. Take care of yourself, and remember, even w/ all the craziness going on w/ your family, you have to take care of YOURSELF before anyone else! Thanks again for the words of encouragement, they make me want to stick with this and stay clean, just so I don't let people down! You take care of yourself! I'll say a prayer for you.
-Kelly

 
Old 09-30-2004, 05:44 AM   #7
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Hi, Kelly,

Suboxone is a relatively new drug that is used to break addiction...tho it is addictive in itself. A strange drug, but one that has been tremendously successful for many (and one I hope to find a doctor for, myself.)

Those who take it...like Sammi, Banker, Godess, etc. can share their firsthand experiences with it. Suboxone works by attaching itself to the brain's opiate receptors, and tho it is an opiate itself, it eliminates the desire for other addictive drugs--say, Vicodin, Oxycontin, etc and stops the withdrawal symptoms from them. It produces no "high."

Those who use it say that for the first time in so long, they feel "normal" again. They stop thinking about and craving drugs. Have no desire to "doctor shop", fake pain symptoms, go to on-line pharmacies, etc.--all those things that make pill-seeking a 24/7 activity. Suboxone is primarily for those of us who have taken pills for so long that it's become almost impossible to just stop and get through a withdrawal period.

Sub. IS tough to discontinue--you can suffer withdrawal symptoms--so it must be done very slowly. Sub is an opiate itself--which creates lots of back and forth arguing about it. But the baseline is that it allows a drug user to break that horrible cycle of drug use (i.e., Oxys) --without withdrawal symptoms and (most important for those like myself) without that terrible black depression that is part and parcel of stopping drugs for many of us.

Check the threads about it....and you see that nearly everyone who has taken it has benefited greatly....and the main difficulty is coming off it slowly enough to avoid withdrawal symptoms.

Unlike Methadone, you can get a prescription for Suboxone from doctors registered to prescribe it....so it makes life easier for those who cannot get to a clinic everyday. Sub is in pill form....dissolved under the tongue.

I gather from what I've read here, that getting the right doctor to work with on Suboxone is half the battle. You need a knowledgeable specialist, who understands the psychology of drugs....and the specifics of how Suboxone works.

I've really just touched the surface here. You'll get much more firsthand information from others on this Board, who have felt so grateful for a drug that finally enabled them to break their drug cycles....but thought I'd give you some information to start with"! :-) Lynn

 
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