Hi Jewel and Syd. How are you both doing on the Sub?
I wanted to give you my husband Ed's Subutex taper schedule. It worked very well for him. Please keep in mind that while he was tapering he was off work so he was able to have go thru a 'bad day' while he was tapering without having to worry about working. If he had to be at work during the taper process, he would have done it slightly more slowly.
We believe that the key to a successful sub taper is to taper down very low, and take the time to stabilize at each dose before tapering again. Sub is extremely POWERFUL and to be respected. Also, be prepared to feel each taper a day or two, and just remember that once you stabilize you will feel better again, until the next taper....It does sometimes seem like it's endless, but as you can see below, it can have a happy ending!
He was on Subutex for 47 days. He was coming off a 320+ mg a day Oxycontin habit for five years, and before that 5 years of daily hydrocodone use. If it was up to his sub doc he'd still be taking 16 mg of Subutex a day...
2 days at 24 mg
5 days at 16 mg
5 days at 12 mg
4 days at 8 mg
5 days at 6 mg
4 days at 4 mg
3 days at 3 mg
10 days at 1 mg
3 days at .50 mg
3 days at .25mg
3 days at .12
Today is Ed's 20th day off of the Sub! He's doing great! He tried to stop the sub when he was day 1 at .25 but when he got to the 30 hour mark of no sub, he started having bad w/d's - nothing like the oxycontin w/d's, but bad enough that he said he wanted to taper down even more.
He tapered for another week and then he stopped at .12 mg (you will need a pill cutter and a steady hand). We truely though he would go thru 4-5 days of w/d's...but he didn't!!!!
He slept that first night just fine and that awful depressed restless feeling filled with anxiety and heebie jeebies never came! He must have had already gone thru that during his previous tapers.
I, just like you, read so many horror stories that I wanted Ed to get off the sub after the first week on it! I realize now that would NOT have been the way to go. He really needed the time on the sub for him to distance himself from the daily habit of taking that Oxycontin.
Even though tapering down on Subutex was no picnic, we still believe Sub is a MIRACLE DRUG - Ed would NEVER have been able to taper off the Oxycontin and he would NEVER have been able to go cold turkey voluntarily...the Sub did it's job perfectly.
I have recently read several success sub taper stories of people who have been on sub for a couple of months and tapered down, and then stopped and didn't have any bad side effects other then a few days of feeling blah, no energy, but that's as bad as it got. Ed's cravings have not come back either, oh he says he misses the 'good mood' the oxy created, but he has no desire at all to actually take any oxy - he went thru WAY to much to go down that road again!
Good luck to you both!