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Old 10-23-2007, 09:02 AM   #1
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home detox

any ideas? ;p

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Old 10-23-2007, 09:36 AM   #2
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Re: home detox

Well this will be first detox, i have been building up to 15 10mgs of hydrocodone or sometimes more a day, what can i expect, i saw the home detox post, however dont have time for aquiring all the items, did manage the immodium however, i am currently in day 2, i have dropped to 3 10mgs on day one and have 8 7.5mg left, should i just take the rest or is taking them slowly helping, last thing i wanna do is start this whole process over in a day or 2. The reason why i am asking this is have the RLS and sweats already. I guess i am more angry/dissappointed with my self for getting here. I have a great life dont know what i needed these damn pills for. Anyways any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:44 AM   #3
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Re: home detox

What kind of meds are you taking? Did your doctor prescribe them or were you getting them online? Is it possible to tell your doctor how many pills that you have been taking, and ask if he (she) can help you?

Don't wait too long, or you'll be in a world of hurt like me. I went to my doctor on the second day of CT detox because of the agonizing withdrawals. I came clean with him, and he helped me out.

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:52 AM   #4
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Re: home detox

Sorry i edited it, but hydro was my drug of choice, still want to know if i need 2 just take the rest now or try and stretch them out as long as i can?

 
Old 10-23-2007, 12:45 PM   #5
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Re: home detox

Brick,

I am new to this board also BUT...just because you have the pills you don't take them all up? I would instead try to stretch the dose lower & lower......then down to nothing .....much easier than slamming yourself into w/d & detox?

This is how I did it.......day 3 for me....GOOD LUCK!

 
Old 10-23-2007, 01:15 PM   #6
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Hi again.

If you only have eight pills, it might be a little more difficult to stretch them out. I don't know how your body is going to respond, how deeply embedded the addiction is, how old you are, ...

When I first detoxed off of a similar addiction to hydrocodone, my doctor put me on a maintenance dose of six .75/325 vics a day, and I still had horrible withdrawals. After I stabilized on that dose (about 10 days), I had the choice of going to rehab or going CT. I took the CT route, mostly because I was finding waiting lists at the rehab centers in our area. Additionally, I wanted to sleep in my own bed (no pun intended, ha-ha).

Good luck.

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Old 10-23-2007, 01:43 PM   #7
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Re: home detox

Well i am in my mid 30's, and the last few months have been just out of control. I went from 7 10mg hydros to doin almost 20 a day the last 3 weeks or so, and i know that i have to stop now, before things get so far gone that i ruin more than i already have. I want to keep this as private as possible, so am just gonna have to tough it out. I guess or hope that all the pain of w/d will remind me to stay the hell away from hydrocodone. I am in the second day of not taking 20 10mg hydros and its awful, i have been taking the 7.5s and they seem to help a lil, still sweat tho, just dont wont to start this process all over again when the 7.5s run out. Well i guess time will tell.


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Old 10-23-2007, 03:21 PM   #8
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Hi brick.

That is exactly where I was: totally "out of control." I was gobbling them demon pills up as fast as I could get them. I had a choice: stop the opiate train or die.

I am 51, which doesn't help, and I have high blood pressure. When I came clean with my wife, she was really worried that the detox would kill me. She took me to the doctor, and, after a thorough examination, he said that I was going to be OK. We went back two more times because I was afraid that my heart was going to stop.

To be successful, like reach (check out her posts), we need some support, a friend, a family member, AA, whatever. I don't know of a single success story where someone maintained sobriety in a vacuum (all by yourself). Sure, I detoxed, had that "warm and fuzzy" feeling that comes with winning the first battle that carried me into weeks of sobriety. But then comes the war... I never thought that I would relapse. However, I did, three times (four week relapse, clean for three, one week relapse, clean for two weeks). The last time was with the mother of all opiates, h, for two days! Alas, I never thought I would reach that point.

The good news is that I am, currently, clean of all opiates, and plan to stay that way. My wife (after I put her through agony) is very supportive. Additionally, I have told my family, friends, and doctor about my addiction, not only to cut ties with "opiate" dependent friends and cut off sources of medicine but also to get more support. My mother and sister have been there when I needed them most.

I've lost a few battles, but the war can still be won. If the opiates win, I die. So, it is essential that I am victorious. If I can't stay clean, I will go to a sub doctor for more help. I will not use any more street drugs or internet pharmacies to feed my addiction. (I hope and pray that I remain strong and never use sub).

I KNOW that you can beat this. We are at your side to help. There are a lot of successful CT detox stories on this site. I will be reading yours, sometime down the road.

Your friend in addiction,

mk

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:41 PM   #9
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Re: home detox

Hey brick,

If possible, get a prescription for "Clonidine" from your doctor. Its a blood pressure med (used to lower BP) but has been found to work wonders for those of us having horrible w/d's from opiates.

Check it out on the web - ask your doctor - but I found it helped me out with so many different forms of w/d...sweats, chills, RLS, fatigue, shakes etc.

Good luck and good for you for admitting and doing something about your addiction.

I'm proud of you

Sincerely,
emsmom

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Old 10-24-2007, 08:45 AM   #10
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Hi brick:

How is your home detox going? You are using the information for home detox on this board, right? The clonidine advice is good. I didn't get the drug because the doctor had me on different high blood pressure meds and didn't want to mix them up.

If you broke the pills that you have left into halves, you could get three days, almost, of half a vicodin every 4 hours. Three days seems to be that magic number for most folks. Hmm... Three days for the resurrection. There is supernatural beauty in numbers!

Stay strong,

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Old 10-24-2007, 09:15 AM   #11
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Re: home detox

well i tried to make what little i had last,but the only made it thru the night. This really sucks, but i guess nothing worth having comes easy. I am really uneasy about goin to my primary care physician, small town, and the fact that i dont wont to be labeled. Well today is the first day without any period, although i have felt like **** since sunday. I just hope these are gonna get better and not start over since i have not any opiates today. Thanks for the support.

Brick

 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:02 AM   #12
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Re: home detox

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well i tried to make what little i had last,but the only made it thru the night. This really sucks, but i guess nothing worth having comes easy. I am really uneasy about goin to my primary care physician, small town, and the fact that i dont wont to be labeled. Well today is the first day without any period, although i have felt like **** since sunday. I just hope these are gonna get better and not start over since i have not any opiates today. Thanks for the support.

Brick

 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:05 AM   #13
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Re: home detox

I am currently on 5 10/325 a day and am planning to quit cold turkey tonight. I have been on these pills for 7 years. My question is how long does your body take to clean itself out? How long does the phyicall withdraw last?

 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:57 AM   #14
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well more than 3 days, i am gonna guess around 5 from what i have read on these boards, but best thing you can do is look at ALL of the posts in here and get a better understanding as to what is goin on. GL

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Old 10-24-2007, 06:26 PM   #15
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I love spirited discussions!

You can use the advanced search option, narrow it down to hydrocodone or vicodin withdrawals, choose "addiction and recovery" board, and find your answers. You can also ***gle it.

For me, peak withdrawal eased after three days. It took about ten days before the shakes started easing off (I hated that withdrawal symptom the worst). For a couple of weeks after CT, I had a few panic attacks, all at night. After that came PAWS, or Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (and the crippling depression that comes with it). PAWS can linger from 6 months to 1.5 years, depending on your body, severity of addiction,...

Good luck

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Old 10-25-2007, 04:45 AM   #16
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Well its about 6 a.m. now on thurs, and i feel quite a bit better, still feel like there is something else that controls my body every once in a while ie. "the shakes". But i gotta tell ya, for the first time since monday...I actualy have a feeling of hope about this, just need to get my mind clear and able to focus and i will be a-ok. I was wondering Mk what exactly can i expect from "paws". It would Definately be nice to have a heads up so I know what is goin on when they hit, as i am sure i will have them, seeing as how this "habit" started as a recreational thing 7 years or so ago. I apologize for posting my drama since my habit was totally brought upon by myself and not because i was lured into it do an event that required the drugs. Will let you know later how things are, gearing up for the war, since i have just about won the first skirmish. Good Luck to all. Stay in fight, if i am goin to feel even better than i do now, i know it is worth it. Thanks for all the help.

Brick

Ps. I am seeing an addiction doc in about an hour, i was wondering about suboxone..if it is just gonna be replacing one craving for another i would rather not..because i know that eventually i will have to go thru this process again. I would appreciate any info at all. thanks again for the help.

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Old 10-25-2007, 07:59 AM   #17
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["I apologize for posting my drama since my habit was totally brought upon by myself and not because i was lured into it do an event that required the drugs."] Quote=brickz11

That quote is raw honesy, brick. You have taken a huge step by not putting the burden of blame on any outside event, hardship,...

I have had similar thoughts about sub, since we have a few sub doctors in the area, but, at this point, I don't feel like I need it. I'm sure that some sub people will step in and answer your questions. Some argue that it is an opiate, but your dose is controlled by the doc. It is a recovery drug, imo, for many, but withdrawals will be the same, if not worse.

PAWS. Well that is not so easy to predict. A lot depends on how much neurological damage there is in the mind left behind after detox. I see it as this debilitating emptyness after the detox battle ravages your body. The best way that I can explain it is that I felt as if God had abandoned me, and I was thrown into a desolate wasteland with no food or water. It is the primary reason I relapsed, and if I had taken another good board member's advice, "shay4bliss," and got support from living, breathing, human beings that have lived this hell, then my chances would have been better.

Yes, you will feel better, a little every day. Do you think that your over peak withdrawal? I am corresponding with a guy on another board that has detoxed from hydro and has not had too many of the symptoms of PAWS (he didn't get off with a free ride, however). You never know; You might be just like him.

Stay strong, buddy. I know that you can do this.

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Old 10-25-2007, 10:20 AM   #18
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OK i am back from the addiction doc, have taken the first dosage of subutex, and to be honest it is an amazing thing...now i have talked with him about the fact that I in NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, are going to go thru what i have been thru the last 4 days. So i guess i just will have to trust him. The good thing about the doc i am seeing is that in order to be treated there are exterior requirements, ie. meetings, spiritual time, etc., to which i am uncomfortable with and yet understanding at the same time, I am an extremely self motivated person, I have acheived just about everything that I have put my mind on...well except this, which I think is why quitting has been so dang tough. Hard excepting that i have met my match so to speak. But like i said, life comes only minutes at a time, and as long as I look at like that, I think I can whip anything..minutes at time. Thanks for continueing to look in on me MK, you have no idea how much it has helped.

Brick

 
Old 10-25-2007, 05:52 PM   #19
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Brick:

You made my day, ha-ha. Thanks for the compliment.

You are, as I see it, making the right choice, given the circumstances. There are a lot of great folks here that can give you information about suboxone and can tell you what to expect.

Good luck and stay strong.

Your friend in addiction,

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Old 10-27-2007, 02:47 AM   #20
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Well its about 4am on the start of day 5, i have had sub since the start of day 4, and to be honest i can tell that it has some of the same "characteristics" of my nasty pal hydrocodone. I am still getting the sweats, but not like the cold ones, just like my body is working hard while i am sitting still. I have no idea what lies ahead for me, but one thing i do know, it will be without hydrocodone, and it will hurt, and I will probably not like some of it, BUT I will BE THERE for it. I will own it and take responsiblity for it, no matter how uncomfortable it might be. I am still up in the air about the whole sub. treatment, there is so much jumbled info on these boards about it, So I am gonna try and relate it as honest as i can, how its effecting ME. So far so good, i am me, but with a lil pick-up in my step if you catch my meaning. Dont know if that is the hope of the futur,or the sub. kicking in, but it feels better than what was wednesday. I havent really slept yet, allthough i do feel at ease, maybe my body is still hard at work. My goal is to take the one week dosage that i have to bridge the gap from CT detox, and immediately start to taper, thats MY plan, lol, the Doc might have a different one, we'll see. But as i said before, I can easily recognize thats its another opiate, which is why i want to spend as little time with it as possible, I dont think that this process should be EASY, I want it to be tuff, because i know that if it isnt, the easier it will be to dismiss. Hopefully i can be "drug" free within the month. I swear it even makes me despise asparin, and i'm glad. But have to admit it has done me the courtesy of giving me time to mentally fortify myself against desire to aquire more hydro, and for that i am thankful. I hope that everyone that makes/takes the time/courage to read these posts, any of them, knows that 1. You are not the only one 2. Things can change 3. You can do anything for next 30 minutes. Well i am gonna try to go back to bed, get some sleep, and when i wake up start again 30 minutes at time. Best of luck to me for one, heh lol, and best of luck to everyone thats willing to a least in part admit they need to be reading these posts. I was tought at a young age that what one person CAN do, so can I. Sober is what i CAN do. Thanks again for all the help. I will continue to update daily as to how MY experience is unfolding. You guys rock. All of ya!

Brick

 
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