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Old 11-09-2007, 02:04 PM   #1
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Pray for me

Hello to you all - The last time I was on the board I was asking advice regarding Suboxone. I had been on Sub before and the chronic pain had got so bad again that I started on the Lorcets once again. I was really scared to call the doc who had placed me on Sub before. I found another doc that is even closer and have an appointment for Tuesday morning. I am excited to start this but I am nervous. When I made the appt the lady did not ask me why I was coming in - I went ahead and told her. I told her I had found the name of the doc on the Sub website. I told her I wanted to make sure that he still treated patients with Sub - she said, "Oh I am sure he does." That did not leave me feeling very confident. I called back this afternoon to make sure but of course being Friday afternoon they were all gone for the day. Please someone tell me I am being overly paranoid. I am so anxious to start this and get on with my life. Should I worry? Please pray that things work out for me. I cannot live like this anymore - I am ready to fight this with all I have. I would have tried cold turkey but there is no way. I have a full time job & I am a single mother. I do not post on here often but I read here everyday. I find strength in you all and your stories. Thanks for listening & please let me know what you think. Peace and love to all.

 
Old 11-09-2007, 06:04 PM   #2
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Re: Pray for me

Hi Diann and welcome back.

you will be perfectly ok. do you know if the doctor is going to give you the sub at that appt? call and find out. b/c when you get there you need to be in mild to modrate w/d before taking your first dose of sub. of course, this could be just a consultation appt... you just need to call and see, ok?
but as for switching to the sub, please dont worry, its going to be ok. you really are going to be just fine. you wont believe how good you feel as soon as you get your dose right !!!

let me know how you're doing and if you have any questions, ask away ! ive been on sub since may and im doing well on it.

talk soon,

michelle

 
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:44 AM   #3
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Thank you very much Michelle. I appreciate the support. This appointment will be just a consultation appointment. How long do you think he will make me wait until we start the actual induction? I'm sure every doc is different. I am just ready to start this and be done with what I have been doing to myself. I did not purposely mean for this to happen as I'm sure none of us do. Chronic pain can be so hard to deal with. At this point in my life I would rather deal with the pain than deal with being on these meds and worrying about running out, etc. Thank you for responding. How long were you on the meds before you started the sub? If you do not mind me asking.

 
Old 11-12-2007, 10:55 AM   #4
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Hi Diann !!!

no, i dont mind at all... i was sober for 5 1/2 years from a nasty heroin addiction. but back in march i hurt my back and was put on oxycontin. which i abused terribly. so i got on sub. and am still on it. im taking 4mg a day. but i started at 8mg.
i know you said you didnt have any luck the first time with the pain, but sometimes sub works really well for it. People who take sub for chronic pain usually take several doses during the day instead of taking it all at once because the pain relieving qualities of sub only last for 4 - 6 hours. so when you get back on make sure to discuss this with your doctor. Hopefully he will know this and have you take it that way. but you never can tell, a lot of these doctors dont know much about it. so do your research. because it CAN work for pain, you just have to take it differently.....
im not sure how long it'll be before you go in for your "induction". every doc is different. But i wish you luck !!! And please keep me posted as to how you're doing, ok?

Take Care,

Michelle

 
Old 11-14-2007, 11:58 AM   #5
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Hi Michelle,

First - I just noticed you are from the Buckeye State. I am originally from Mansfield, Ohio! : )

I wanted to update you on my situation. I met with the Sub Doc yesterday and he was wonderful. He told me that I would be a great canidate for sub. Yesterday he did a ton of blood work and I go back Friday to decide when we will be doing the induction. I told him I would like to start as soon as possible. I am hoping it will be sooner rather than later. With the holiday fast approaching I am scared they will be out of the office all next week. I could not think of any questions yesterday - I was so nervous. I am writing them down now as I think of them so when I go Friday I can get the answers I need. I just pray if we cannot start until after the holiday he will at least prescribe me something to get me through until then. What are your thoughts? Thank you so much for letting me vent to you. I have not told anyone about any of this - thanks for listening.

 
Old 11-14-2007, 12:21 PM   #6
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Hi Hidiann,

how long ago did you live in mansfield? where do you live now? I know how you feel about nobody knowing. Noone in my family knows at all about sub. But my AA sponsor knows and i talk to her pretty frequently. She doesnt understand it, but she's not too critical though....
Im really glad you had your first appointment. i really hope your induction is soon !!! i suppose on friday he will have your results from the tests and as long as every thing is ok, make the appt for induction. I would think that they would at least be open Monday and Tuesday?
I have a list of some suggestion for questions you might ask when preparing to start bupe treatment. Hope you find at least a couple to help you:

Do you limit your treatment length? (just to know if he expects you to come off of it fairly quickly. Good to know, b/c you dont want to be rushed !

Do you take insurance? If no, will you provide receipts I can submit to my carrier?

Are you an addiction specialist?

How often will I have appointments?

Do you have a 'program', if so, what does it consist of?

Are you affiliated with any local pharmacies to stock Sub, so I don't have to drive all over or wait days for them to get it?

Recommend any counseling or therapy?

Will you treat me for anything else beside opiate addiction?

Will you recommend a "family doctor" that isn't a dealer?

If I should relapse, what is your procedure to re-start or am I out?

Will you listen to me if I feel that my dose is too much or not enough?

If you favor a short treatment as opposed to a longer maintenance and taper, will you stay with me until I'm ready to jump or will I have to seek another doctor to continue?

What lab tests are required? How much do they cost if there is no insurance coverage?

Is there a charge for in-office urine toxicology testing?

How long does it take for the doctor to return calls?

Is there a notification to patients and a procedure in place for when the doctor will be unavailable? Eg., is there someone to take calls at those times?

Is confidentiality assured? How? Who may see my private information?

Will I receive treatment/medication on the first visit?

Is the cost of medication received in the office an additional charge?

Do I need to provide a urine specimen in order to be treated? What about urine specimens for subsequent visits?

Where can I get the Suboxone ID wallet cards?


What are the reasons the doctor might discharge me from Sub treatment?

Do I need to bring someone with me on the first visit?
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Is the induction in your office? And if so, then here are more questions directed towards that:

If beginning my treatment at home, what can I expect from my initial dose and how should I expect to feel in the first few days?

How long should I wait before taking my first dose of Sub.

What is the procedure for starting, how much Suboxone and when?

Will you be available by phone if I have a problem or question?


I know a lot of these probably dont apply, but i found this list and thought to include it.
i would also discuss with him the protocol for taking the sub for pain management. like i said in my other post, pain patients take sub differently b/c the pain relieving qualities of sub only last 4 - 6 hours, so you will probably take it several times during the day instead of all at once in the morning.

Let me know how everything goes !!! I really wish you all the luck in the world with this hidiann.

Talk soon, take care,

michelle

 
Old 11-14-2007, 01:06 PM   #7
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Re: Pray for me

Suboxone is working great for me.

 
Old 11-20-2007, 01:12 PM   #8
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Hi Michelle - I'm back. I had my follow up appointment and I am so ready to start this. The sooner I start the better I will feel. Your list of questions came in very handy. Any questions I had were answered. The only thing that kind of concerned me was the length of time I may be on Suboxone. The doc did explain that everyone is different and that we will play it by ear. He said the most sucessful stories are the people who have stayed on sub for a longer period time versus those who got off more quickly. Whatever my case may be I am ready to start - I am ready to be free of these evil pills. I do not know what else to call them. I go in Monday to start the treatment - I have to be pill free for 12 hours before. I have read some places require 24 or more hours so I am so grateful it is only 12. I am nervous on how I will feel. Please keep me in your prayers - I am nervous yet excited to start this new chapter in my life. Thanks Michelle for being here to listen to me vent - it means more than you will ever know!!

 
Old 11-20-2007, 05:37 PM   #9
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yay !!! keep me posted on how you do with your first appt. you are supposed to me in mild to moderate withdrawls. and the time that takes is different for everyone. but 12 hrs seems like a good amt of time to do the trick
i think you'll be very happy with this move. you will be able to feel like a "normal" human being again !!! are you planning on seeing a therapist or going to meetings while you are on sub? i only ask b/c it really is imperative that you get some kind of support so that when you do make the move off of sub, you wont go back to your doc.
i know that i used for so long that when i finally quit, my life felt so empty b/c i didnt know what to with myself. my whole life had become using: getting money to buy drugs, finding someone to get drugs from, finding a doctor to prescribe, finding a pharmacy to fill. it was MY WHOLE LIFE. i obsessed about it constantly. so when i didnt have that anymore i didnt know what to do. i didnt know how to deal with my feelings, or with stress. i always popped a pill or did a bag.
so learning how to live life without using was HUGE. i am just trying to give you an idea of what might happen. i wish you only the best. and these words are said with all the kindness in the world. i mean it. i hope you stay sober forever !!! im just trying to push you in the right direction to acheive that !!!

please keep posting and let me know how you're doing. i look forward to your updates !!!

hugs, michelle

 
Old 11-21-2007, 07:56 AM   #10
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Thank you so much Michelle. I will definitely keep you updated. I am nervous but yet excited at the same time. I want this so badly for myself and my family. I do not feel like I have been fair to them or myself. I would get so moody and yell when I was low - ugh! I want my old self back - I miss her!

As far as meetings I have actually already started going. I have not yet got the strength to speak but I do sit and listen to the others. I have only been about 4 or 5 times but I feel like it is a start. I will continue to go for support. I know exactly what you mean about not knowing what to do with yourself - I have thought about that often - I will make the necessary changes. I am strong, I know I can do this!! Thanks again for everything! I hope you have a wonderful holiday. I will keep in touch - thank you again for your support - it really does mean more than you know.

Hugs!!!

 
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