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Old 01-22-2008, 03:46 PM   #1
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i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

so i went to my primary doctor today to see what she could do to help me quit taking percosets.
She said there is nothing she can do! She refered me to a clinic where I would have to see counciling in order to recieve suboxine or anything like that.
What she did do for me is prescribe me my own percosets!
I dont' get it.
I go to the doctor so she can help me quit so she prescribes me a crap load more?!
I was dissapointed because I was really feeling hopeful that today was the day my life was about to change.

I called the clinic and made an appointment in 3 weeks and i'll have to start going to an addiction and recovery meeting and i'll see a doctor there who could possibly prescribe me something to help me quit.

So meanwhile, keep taking percs, legally this time i guess.......ughhhhh

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:16 PM   #2
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

I think you are on the fence with this one. I think you want to quit but you dont have to strengthen to tell people no and it might have to come to that. You should have told your doc that you don't want more pills that you have a problem taking them how they are prescribed. You need to look up on the internet for sub doctors and start calling around. I was put on 12mg of sub per day about 2 weeks ago. I had to call about 50 docs until I could find a opening to be seen. You are going to have to be strong and learn to say no and It looks like you are starting to do that. So Tomorrow please start making some calls and find a doc that can see you before the weeks end! You have to be 36 hours in withdrawing before they will give you your first dose of sub. This past 2 weeks has been great for me and I think the sub will do wonders for you. Please look into it and get back to us.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:12 PM   #3
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

I usually post on the pm board, but found my way over her to check on a pal. I am dependant on my Lortab. I would go into full blown w/d without it. However, if I don't take it I can rarely function normally. So, for me, it is the lesser of two evils at this point. I take it as it was prescribed and never more than 4 in a 24 hour period.

Now, I see your situation a bit differently. Maybe you doc wrote you the Rx because she didn't want you to go cold turkey...so she wrote you the meds to safely get you to your appointment with the Sub. doc. Maybe she doesn't have much experience with in this area.

I understand that you were hopeful today...and I am sorry she couldn't help. But, try to start cutting back and look forward to starting you journey in three weeks....unless you can find someone sooner. The strength you had today will still be inside you in two days or in three weeks....admitting you have a problem to yourself and your doc takes an enormous amount of strength..it's there.

 
Old 01-23-2008, 08:02 AM   #4
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

What your doctor did was compassionate, but highly illegal unless you have a legit pain related injury, and really not in your best interest. She could lose her license for giving you that script just for addiction.
I agree with others that you should get proactive and not wait for the clinic...at least see what your other options are. Your appointment at the clinic may be a big disappointment. I have left more than one of them after an initial consult and relapsed, because i was so dissapointed and/or stressed. There are suboxone doctor locators that can help you find the ones closest to you...call each of them and compare what they have to offer. You will find most sub doctors do not accept insurance, and may charge very high fee's...because they can. I wound up traveling about 100 miles to see my sub doctor, because i liked her and felt comfortable with her, etc. That was almost a positive i think...Being inconvenienced by spending all that money & time traveling got old after a while and I think motivated me even more. I do miss my group though!

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Old 01-23-2008, 12:06 PM   #5
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

mano,
why were you disspointed when you went to the clinic?

 
Old 01-23-2008, 05:14 PM   #6
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

Im not surprised she gave them to you.I went to my Dr. and told him i had ben abusing the Oxycontin he prescribed,which he had to know because i made excuses evry month why i needed them early agin.
He listened to my story gave me some things to help me with W/D, 2 weeks latr i went in to see him agin and asked for Oxy an walked out with them.
Imo you should use the meds the Doc prescribed to TAPER urself as much as possible until you can get help from another avenue.Doing this WILL help the the final W/D,s. I also recomend N/A it helped me in many ways if for no othr reason that i wouldnt use while i was there.I also went to as many N/A meetings/functions as i could.Sometimes 4metings a day. GOODLUCK

 
Old 01-23-2008, 08:38 PM   #7
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

Hello,

One thing to keep in mind with the majority of primary "medical doctors" (and I put that in quotes for a reason) is that they are nothing but drug dealers in white overcoats with b.s. (and that stands for ********) degrees. The reason they are so write happy with prescriptions is because they all get kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies. So why would they want you to quit? I can honestly say that a medical doctor has not helped me once in my lifetime. I told my doctor I had anxiety and depression and he wrote me a prescription for vicodin!! Yes you read that right. All they know how to do is write prescriptions for illnesses that turn out to be something completely different or refer one to a specialist, or in other words someone that actually knows what they're doing. It is so easy nowadays with the internet to be your own medical doctor that I honestly don't even see a need for them. ***** is my doctor and the health store is my pharmacy and with one years sobriety I feel better than I ever have in my whole life. Hang in there

 
Old 01-23-2008, 09:15 PM   #8
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

thanks everybody for your help.

one thing i forgot to mention is that my doctor did prescribe me cymbalta for depression. I told her that the worst withdrawls i've had when trying to quit opiates was depression. I told her I can't even get out of bed to go to work, that i call out of work, that i can't get up or do anything without opiates so i think she gave me the prescription to hold me over and to get me out of bed and function normally untill i can get help elsewhere. I started the cymbalta yesterday, today was my second dose, so far i am seeing some results, some headaches and sleepiness but i haven't had anxiety yet so thats a good thing so when time comes to stop taking these pills, hopefully the depression isn't as bad as it has been each time i tried to quit before.

i did make an appointment with an addiction and recovery program. I have a consultation type appointment in 3 weeks! I can't wait for that

 
Old 01-24-2008, 09:21 AM   #9
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

ilovejoaquim, to answer yoiur question I had a few bad experiences with a local hospital run clinic.
The fist time I went there I was in withdrawl.....about day 4-5 and really sick. They asked me what type of health insurance I had before i even came in, then put me through an intensive interview, asking all kinds of painful questions about my childhood and life, only to tell me at the end of the interview that they couldn't help me because my insurance wouldn't cover in patient treatment...I left there and went and scored immediately. Basically, they knew up front they couldn't help me and put me through a very triggering situation. They did mention suboxone to me as something that may be suitable for me, but told me there was a long waiting list to get into their program. This was the 1st time I ever heard of suboxone, and that was about 4 years ago.

I actually pulled some strings and did get eventually get accepted into the program, but once I heard what it entailed i said forget it. They wanted me to come in for 4 hours of group counceling, 4 days a week, plus come in every morning for the suboxone....One of the things that really turned me off was about 50% of the people in the program were court ordered to be there, and they treated everyone together...They viewed it as all addictions are the same, and I don't....and it was 12 step based, which I have some problems with.

The good news is that I did find a doctor on my own, and got into a program that I was comfortable with, and it has helped.

One thing I will say on the doctor note is that there are many good doctors out there that do NOT hand out pills. I have a great primary care doctor who would never give me pain pills or anything that I could abuse, which didn't always make me happy. I only wish that I had listened to her more. She is a truly caring doctor and she was right...opiates are not the right answer for most cronic pain, and they only make the pain more intense in the long run, especially if they are abused.

The doctors who hand out pills are dangerous, and for many of them it is purely business. If they get you dependant, you'll be back every month for an office visit. That goes for suboxone doctors as well.

mano

 
Old 01-24-2008, 10:25 AM   #10
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

Hi,
I just read your last reply and had to put in my 2 cents...
I was on Cymbalta and I just wanted to let you know that it is processed thru the liver and can be harmful to it, esp if you are drinking or taking any meds that are hard on the liver. You can use any search engine and read this, or look it up on the Cymbalta site. It is the worst of the AD's in this regard. Also, the withdrawals from it are horrible...took me about 3 months to get rid of the brain zaps.
I'd just hate to see you get stuck with another drug that is hard to get off of.
There are lots of other AD's out there that are not hard on the liver that do work. IMHO, drs should warn us of this before prescribing it AND let us know how difficult it is to get off of it.

Minn

 
Old 01-24-2008, 12:37 PM   #11
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Re: i told my dr. i wanted to quit, so she prescribed me more painkillers!

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I told my doctor I had anxiety and depression and he wrote me a prescription for vicodin!! Yes you read that right.

I can believe it. It's done more often than you think, though it's not widespread. Opioids are the best anti-depressants available, though their use in that context is definitely off label. I believe the doctor, in giving her the script for percocet, was just being compassionate. I bet you the script has "for pain" on it, thus making it perfectly legal. She didn't have to take it. We all have that choice. And, as far as the legality goes......how many of us addicts are squeaky clean during are active addictions?

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