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Old 12-25-2010, 12:03 PM   #1
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Please forgive me if I am on the wrong board. Im limited on what I can see and do since I'm typing from my phone. I guess I'm an addict (I know that sounds like I'm in denial) but I have legitimate pain and have been what I thought was responsible. But that depends on who judges you. Many of you may understand what I mean. A lot of people think if you take pills your a pill-popper and should just deal with the pain.

Here's my story- I've been taking Norco for a very long time and before that it was Hydrocodone. I moved to East Tennessee and it took forever to find a doctor that would subscribe pain meds. A few months ago I had to sign a new contract with the doctor and I guess I didn't really read it. It stated that I could use one pharmacy and if I changed they were to be notified. I went to another because of price and holiday hours. It was a day early and they said they needed to okay it with my doctor. I was fine with that and said yes call. A few minutes passed then pharmasist came and said, doctors office said to keep the prescription and that it was void because I broke the contract. I immediately contacted their office to be told they will no longer see me and that's final. Needless to say I was hysterical and shocked. I have no more pills and I'm in the beginning stages of withdrawal and I am so SCARED. Im embarrassed and humiliated. Nobody is going to see me. I HAVE to work. Do I go to the hospital? Try another Doctor? It will be days before I can even get an appointment. What do I say? I need to get my records. I do have serious pain. I have had Mri's done but I know I am due for another. Im so lost, scared and confused. Most of all I know what I'm in for and I don't want my kids to see me detox. Will the hospital help me? I know I will look like I'm just looking to get a fix. Im not naive but why did my doctor stop me cold turkey? Im so scared!!!

 
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A few months ago I had to sign a new contract with the doctor and I guess I didn't really read it. It stated that I could use one pharmacy and if I changed they were to be notified. I went to another because of price and holiday hours. It was a day early and they said they needed to okay it with my doctor. I was fine with that and said yes call. A few minutes passed then pharmasist came and said, doctors office said to keep the prescription and that it was void because I broke the contract. I immediately contacted their office to be told they will no longer see me and that's final. Needless to say I was hysterical and shocked. I have no more pills and I'm in the beginning stages of withdrawal and I am so SCARED. Im embarrassed and humiliated. Nobody is going to see me. I HAVE to work. Do I go to the hospital? Try another Doctor? It will be days before I can even get an appointment. What do I say? I need to get my records. I do have serious pain. Will the hospital help me? I know I will look like I'm just looking to get a fix. Im not naive but why did my doctor stop me cold turkey? Im so scared!!!
Hello pandora23

This may be a moot point but in the future,please read anything that you sign your name to carefully.
Once your signature is on the dotted line and you have asked no questions,it can be assumed that you fully understand all the parameters.

If you're symptoms are beginning to worsen,by all means,go to your local hospital's emergency room.

There is one thing I would ask of you;be upfront and honest with the ER physicians. Everything that you have mentioned in this thread should be brought to their attention;leave nothing out(including the #of your previous physician).

Let the ER physicians make their decisions based on the truth,for it is only then,that they can provide an adequate treatment regimine for you.

Respectfully Phoenix

 
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Hello pandora23

This may be a moot point but in the future,please read anything that you sign your name to carefully.
Once your signature is on the dotted line and you have asked no questions,it can be assumed that you fully understand all the parameters.

If you're symptoms are beginning to worsen,by all means,go to your local hospital's emergency room.

There is one thing I would ask of you;be upfront and honest with the ER physicians. Everything that you have mentioned in this thread should be brought to their attention;leave nothing out(including the #of your previous physician).

Let the ER physicians make their decisions based on the truth,for it is only then,that they can provide an adequate treatment regimine for you.

Respectfully Phoenix
Thank you, I want to be honest and I will.

 
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Hi Pandora,

How did it go? Were you able to make it to the hospital?

 
Old 12-29-2010, 03:17 PM   #5
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Thank you for asking. We were snowed in for a few days so I finally got to hospital. They were all very nice. Of course they all looked at me crazy when I told them my doctor dropped me for going to a different pharmacy. They know its bad around here for drugs but this was new to them. Im still stunned over it. The doctor came in and immediately told me she could not give me any pain meds. She said she could try to make it more comfortable and I needed to go to a pain mgmt. She gave me Ativan, something for diarrhea and something for nausea and vomiting. I tried calling some doctors and no one wants to even see me. I called ny previous doc for my records to be told I have to come in and sign a release and pay. $25 and they have 30 days to get it to me. The new doctors don't take insurance for pain mgmt. Im screwed. Im gonna miss work and have settled in for the next few days of hell. Im so scared.
I even tried calling doctors who can prescribe Suboxone. They want almost $500. Im terrified. Please keep me in your prayers.

 
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Hey, I am sorry this happened to you and during the holidays no less. All of us PM patients have to know all the ins and outs of our pain contracts. There is no room for error as you have found out. In all honesty, it will be harder for you to find a new doc, but you will. My first suggestion is to talk with your GP. Tell them exactly what happened and since this wasn't a huge error on your part like getting another prescription from a different doc, maybe they will write for you until you find a new PM. I know this is scary, but the ER doc gave you meds to help with the withdrawl and now you will just have to deal with the pain until you find a new pain doc. Use all the tools you should have been using along with the pain meds. Baths, hot/cold packs, stretching, OTC pain relievers. But make sure all those have been approved by your doc before starting something you have never done before. Hopefully that will tide you over until you get a new pain doc.

 
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Pandora, I've lied every lie there ever was or ever will be. I was at one time, receiving pain scripts from a minimum of 6 doctors. i am not bragging, i stopped cuz I was scared that OHIP would catch on... boy was I right.

I got outta that one too. You see, when you are an addict, I mean a true addict, lying becomes second nature. In fact, lying takes over the truth and even when it doesn't, I didn't care .... Ok, Ill get to the point.. I say all of this because your story doesn't add up hun. If you are honest with us, we may be able to help you.

You were a day early AND at a new pharmacy? Who wrote the script and how did they know it was a day early? Were you given a future dated script and you brought it in ONE day early and that is why they called the doctor?

You seem gung ho on getting all your files, finding out the costs etc...going to the hospital but you wont take the path of least resistance and that would be (if the story were true) to just let your doctor know exactly what you said.

NO DOC can just sever ties without justification. If your pain were legit, would any human being turn their back on someone for such a MINOR infraction. Its NOT from another doctor (the script, although that makes NO SENSE) .. I gotta be honest .... its BS.

I didnt want to do this to you but if your doc in fact wrote the script, why would he not just give you a repeat? Why would he let you walk around with a future dated prescription? I dont know a single doc that does that for narcotics.

IF I am wrong and I know I am not... I am sorry. Please forgive me. But please dont insult our intelligence. We may be addicts, but were not.....( I cant think of anything intelligent to say lol )

I think the only truth to your story is the part about you being an addict. (And theres nothing wrong with it, at least you're here for help) albeit the wrong reasons but Im sure there is some part of you that wants to quit.

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Hey Pandora,

Wow, I can't believe the hospital didn't give you anything. That is very strange. Regardless of what happened with your pharmacy, they should have given you something to combat the withdrawal's. NO ONE should just be sent away to deal with that. Giving a patient ativan just doesn't cut it.

I feel so bad for you. I wish there was something I could do.

How are you feeling today? I really hope it's not too bad.

Take care,
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:52 PM   #9
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Im sorry I've taken so long to post back. Thank you all for responding. Im still hurting but worked yesterday and im pretty miserable today. I really want to try to stay off the pills but I admit im a wimp. The low back pain makes me hunch over and the leg pain makes me limp. I literally CANNOT find a doctor who will see me with insurance. This last doctor did everything.

I have an appt this Wed to establish new patient with a male doc but they don't do chronic pain. You have to find a pain mgmt place in the next city over and its quite a drive.

Corissa, I know what it looks and sounds like that's why im so upset. Of course I'm addicted I've been on pain meds for many years. So here is my secret- I filed bankruptcy. I know a doctor can't drop you for that (she knew everything about me) but she works for a big hospital and I owed them for all my famiy members. My doctor let me bill my co-pays so when I filed for some reason they were not added. Total $120 after I filed I called her office to make appt but was told they couldn't and said I had to call their billing dept. I did and asked what I needed to do. I was told nothing and that was it. I begged to pay bill and they kept telling me no. Of course, again I was very upset. I sat down and wrote a very professional letter to my doctor (I sent it personal and confidential) I was sure she was unaware of what was going on. I thanked her and asked for referrals and asked if she could at least write all my prescriptions to get me through the next couple of months.
A few days later I got a call from her office and was told to come by and pay my balance, sign a few papers and pick up my refills. I was so thankful!!!
One of the papers was a drug contract and I didn't think anything of it. I didn't doctor shop. But what I did do was go to Walmart instead of my grocery pharmacy because of the hours and it was one day early. I said, sure call and verify with my doctor. If I thought there was any chance of this outcome. I would have NEVER put myself in this position.

Btw, got standard typed letter in mail saying sorry and good luck. I could be totally wrong but I think its money and making people go to pain clinics that can charge anything and say no to insurance.

 
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i hope it works out for you. I remember the first time I was thrown into withdrawl symptoms.....

I was arrested ... I went to jail and had to go cold turkey from Methadone, Heroin, Oxys and Cocaine.... I was a mess. Finally, after the jail sorted out which methadone clinic I belonged to, gave me a dose of 30mgs when I was actually on 90mgs at the time... Because I passed the 3 days grace, by law they had to reduce me to 30mgs.... I was sooooooo grateful, 2mgs would have made me do jumping jacks but 30 it was and after 5 days of withdrawl, I felt like myself again.

Sorry, I was remembering the bad days.........back to you. I really do wish you well.....I know it sucks.

 
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I'm having shortness of breath. Is this normal? It's kinda scaring me.

 
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I believe it is normal as I too went thru the same shortness of breath but don't leave it to us for medical advice, please consult a MD if you have any doubts.

Please... we don't need to lose anyone.

 
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Im pretty sure its a side effect from the anti direaha, anti nausea and muscle relaxer. Which I have stopped taking cause I haven't slept in 2days and it made my arm tingly. Catching my breath and im gonna take a shower take the Ativan and if I'm still struggling I will go to ER. I do have an appt w/a new doc in the morning not pain but general family doc. I will keep you posted.

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Remember, you are in withdrawal and its not comfortable.
My 5 day withdrawal ceased when I felt like I was walking in a cloud. like a smoke filled room and it was though i was looking thru a camcorder that was clouded. I didnt experience the diarreah, but I had kung fu legs and karate arms. I slept maybe 10 min at a time. THANK GOD I was in jail with a very caring individual that happened to be my cell mate. He ws fantastic.

This may make you feel better....what bothered me the most was the shortness of breath. I say it may make you feel better cuz I have asthma and even with the shortness, I made it. So, having one of the worst lung diseases, i managed to stay alive.

We are here for ya! Keep up the good work!

 
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