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Old 01-23-2002, 07:37 PM   #1
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Question Opiate Withdrawl

I have been taking about 5-6 Vicoden ES daily for almost 10 months. I liked the "Euphoric" feeling it gave me, and continued taking it long after I needed anymore. I've tried quiting several times, but the withdrawls were too agonizing and I couldn't go more than 6 hours without. Anyway, I have a bottle of Librium to use at night that my Doctor gave me to help me wean off, but as long as I have the vicoden available, I just can't discipline myself to cut back. My plan is to spend this weekend detoxing at my sister's house and just take the Librium every 6 hours for 3 days. In other words, if I'm drugged by the Librium all day, I won't feel the withdrawls, right?
I know this works for alcohol withdrawls as I took it in a detox center a couple years ago. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything more effective than Librium? Thank you!

 
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Old 01-24-2002, 08:23 AM   #2
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Hi there -


I was a cocaine addict, not opiate, but I know plenty of people who are, apparently librium is what they give the detox patients at our local rehab center - and I've been told that you pretty much sleep your way through the withdrawal. Not that it is pleasant, by any means, but it certainly helps.

You didn't mention if you would still "have the vicodin available" after you do this detoxing at your sister's this weekend. I hope not, because, as I am sure you realize from your post, the temptation to take it will be too strong. If you do still have some - why don't you have your sister clean your house,so to speak, of it so you stand a chance!

You mentioned that you had been in rehab before. So this is at least a second round with substance abuse for you. why don't you get yourself involved in AA/NA and give yourself a chance to stay clean and sober this time. Detoxing is only the tip of the iceburg. Staying clean is the real challenge and you can use all the help you can get.

Good luck - keep us posted on your progress

 
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Christine, thank you for your reply! yes, I will be taking my left over pills with me, and we will flush them down the toilet together! and yes, the temptation to "leave a couple" behind has crossed my mind, but I really and sincerely want to beat this addiction for good. I am very familiar with NA, as I spent 3 weeks in rehab for alcoholism. I attended 2 meetings a week and stayed sober for 8 months before I relapsed. During my recovery, I had a bout with pnuemonia and pluerisy which led to my use of vicoden for the cough and chest pain. I was taking the meds as needed, just didn't stop when I was over the illness.
It seems I just traided one addiction for another. I stopped attending my meetings after my relapse with alcohol, even though I did not continue to drink after that, I was ridden with guilt over the fact that while I was professing to be sober, I was in fact taking vicoden. I also never found a sponsor that I desperately needed. I am a very shy, and somewhat insecure person and just didn't have the courage to ask anyone. At my very last NA meeting when I confessed my relapse and cried and poured my heart out over desperately needing a sponsor, not one person approached me afterwards with words of hope or incouragement. Because of my shyness, I could never approach anyone, and I was always the one standing alone during smoke breaks, while everyone else hung out in their little "cliques" which I just hated! It reminded me so much of high school I just wanted to puke, so I never went back.
Anyway, I do plan to spend my weekend sleeping as much as possible, and I know I need to get back to my meetings.
I will post when I get back to let you know how I am doing. Thanks for listening!

 
Old 01-25-2002, 07:15 AM   #4
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Hi -

I know JUST the feeling you talk about feeling alone in AA/NA - I ran into that in a meeting too. Just that one group, though, and my advice would be to try another meeting. And I don't smoke, so I neer met people at the break either. (most of the meetings here are now 1 hour and don't even have smoke breaks anymore.) I live on the Cape- we have so many to choose from - I just kept going to different meetins. and I don't go to NA (too many active "users" there for me) I go to AA. There are PLENTY of drug abusers in AA as well for you to relate to. You are supposed to ask for help, but you don't have to worry about picking a sponsor right away - just get involved again. I personally think picking the person you will share your innermost fears hopes and dreams on a daily basis with is not a decision to take lightly or immeditaly!! I have been through two as it is. It can be hard to ask for help. Sometimes you have to.

Let us know how it goes this weekend. I will be thinking of you. Hang in there. You are a brave strong person to address this, and you have family support and friends here at this board. "See" you on Monday.


 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Capri38:
Because of my shyness, I could never approach anyone,
and I was always the one standing alone during smoke breaks, while everyone else hung out in their little "cliques" which I just hated! It reminded me so much of high school I just wanted to puke, so I never went back.
Anyway, I do plan to spend my weekend sleeping as much as possible, and I know I need to get back to my meetings.
I will post when I get back to let you know how I am doing. Thanks for listening!
Hey there, I remember when I first went to meetings it was like that. But it is our own insecurity. Did they tell you that you couldn't be a part of? It takes talking to someone. Go early, get loud, stay late!.
I'm sorry they say that for the football games.
Really though, you need to make the effort to talk to someone. These "cliques" you are referring to are just a group of people that have the same outside interests and they found that out by talking to others. We all were where you are at when you are new. Do you think we all came in here knowing one another? No, we did not. I am service and I help on committees when I can, etc., etc. You too can find some people that have the same interests. Don't make YOURSELF the outsider. Did you only try ONE meeting and only one time speaking up? We are all human and sometimes maybe those other women are new also, I don't know but I bet if you make the effort someone will talk to you back. That is why it is said in those meetings "keep coming back". Someone will eventually start talking to you. You didn't have a problem speaking up to get your drug of choice, did you? Me either. So just take a deep breath and try it again.
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