Another Hives Thread

[Hogan Grimm]

Hello all,

To those of you who suffer from chronic hives (urticaria) I will be posting my reasearch on what I believe to be a way to stop it from happening. First though I would like to state a few things before I get started, now what I am stating is not intended to make anyone angry or to slam anyone, or to insult anyones intelligence, I just want to help you to understand a few things.

Now I am sure there are a lot of people who already know this, but please bare with me. For those of you who may not understand, I want to explain the difference between a cure and a treatment, and to shed a little light on what is really going on in this country as far as our so called health care system.

First: What does cure mean?
What I take it to mean is if you are suffering an illness and you recieve a cure for it, then once you are cured there is no need to continue taking anymore of it or anything else because cure means whatever you had is gone forever, and your immune system can then produce the proper antibodies making you immune to that illness. Although there are some instances when a person has to stay on a particular cure for a time before it can help you become well again, but once you are, then you would be able to stop without suffering again from the same thing. Of course that would be considered being treated with a cure, but not the same as a treatment.

Second: What does treatment mean?
If you have an illness that medical science doesn't have a cure for, then you begin taking treatments to control suffering from symptomes of your illness, but no matter how long you stay on the treatment as soon as you stop, or within a period of time your symptomes return, or after a while your body becomes resistant to the treatment which means you have to begin taking another treatment in conjuction with the one you are already taking, or just taking a different one and stopping the first one.

Now with that being said, I just want you to know I am not making any claim to know how to cure you, all I am doing is shareing research, and what I have done over the past four years in my search for answers, and what has helped me so far.

About four years ago I was diagnosed with chronic idiopathic urticaria, dermatographism, and delayed pressure urticaria. Well it was really after the first year that I was I was diagnosed with all that, and I in fact diagnosed myself and my doctor confirmed it. What prompted me to start looking elsewhere for answers was the fact that I wasn't getting any from the medical field, and it was apparent that all of the doctors I had seen didn't really seem to care, and why should they, they'er not the one's who are sick.

Whether you want to believe it or not, there are limitations to medical science, but not because medical science can't find ways to cure you or can't find out what is causing your illness, it is because they are limited by the major drug companies on what research is avalible. It is a proven fact that the major drug companies want to keep us sick for the purpose of continuing to line their pockets. How can they make money if we are healthy?

Think about it, all you have to do is watch TV to see all the advertisments for this treatment and that treatment. One of their advertisments states that there are over 25 million people taking celebrex. How much do you think that translates into? And while those people who are taking it to relieve their pain, what do you think is going on inside their bodies? While they may not feel the pain, their bones are grinding into dust. Think about it. Is that helping them? I think not.

Please don't get offended by me saying this, but if you are one of those people who wants to wait on medical science to come up with something, then by all means do so. As for myself, I grew tired of waiting and began doing what I could to find answers to help myself and anyone else who would listen and not be to lazy or afraid to stand up and take action. i have seen people come and go from this board. Some come only once with a sad story, someone or a number of members try to help them, then they never come back.

Then there are those who come to this board showing genuine concern, but after a while drop out of sight, never to be heard from again. Then there are those of us who stay for the long haul. Unless we fight together we will never accomplish much alone other than making a little noise. What I am trying to get you to understand is that it takes time, patience, perseverence by somehow finding inside you the will to stay in the fight.

As I said to one person a long time ago before I became sick, I called it the difficult game of life, and he said to me.... At least we are still in the game.

Well now that I have said all of that, my next post will be about my research

Hogan Grimm

[PinkBanana]

hehe I had a feeling some of those things were said with me in mind.
But yeah, I would absolutely love to work in the medical field because I do in fact CARE like you Hogan. The problem is I have lots of things holding me back..I'm numbers dyslexic(definitely a self diagnosis but I honestly can't even memorize most simple numbers, much less do complicated chemical balancing problems.I suck at math really badly), I'm emetophobic(extreme phobia of people throwing up), and not so great in chemistry. That's what holds me back..I love biology and genetics..wanna be a genetic engineer..discover cures and stuff like gene therapy..but this is a field I would not last long in. Heck I can't stay in a hospital long the minute I hear someone throwing up...i'm a wreck.
That aside Hogan, i'm curious to what you have to say about hives. I have discovered a lot of things that help also, most of which are the things they tell asthmatics and allergic rhinitis patients to do but why never people with allergic hives I don't know.
I've also heard lots of dangerous things about using topical corticosteroids on your skin too much too long..have you found anything on that? Supposedly it will cause asthma and allergic rhinitis later on. I'm convinced this is what happened to me..
well i'm waiting on the edge of my chair to hear your research..

[CheerAngel]

Hey PinkBanana, I too like to work in the med field but has many things holding me back. What are the dangerous things that you heard about using topical corticosteroids? I used it last time and found my skin on my fingers broke easily and my skin was tearing and it was a mess! You also said that it will cause asthma and allergic rhinitis later on; did you mean that by using the topical corticosteroids can cause it? So I guess you got asthma and allergic rhinitis? I do have allergic rhinitis. And Hogan Grimm, I would be waiting to read your research! All the best everyone!
~btw, anyone know whether by taking anti-histamines on a long term basis would cause heart valve damage? I heard this from a group.

[Hogan Grimm]

Hello all,

Before I get started, I just want anyone reading this to understand that I am not a doctor, and what I am posting is not intended to be taken as medical advice. I am just a guy who got so tired of not getting any answers from my doctors, specialists included, that I began looking for answers on my own.

Since the majority of us do not possess, or have access to a lab we are basicly at the mercy of what our doctors tell us. Or are we? No we are not, we do have a way to know what is going on without fancy medical equipment. The way to do it is to listen to what your body is telling you. However you will have to educate yourself a little on the internal workings of the human body to interpret the correct information we are recieving from it.

The human body is a very complex vessal in which many thing can and do go wrong. So when this happens, what do we do to make it right again when medical science can't explain it, or doesn't care to find out? We learn to read ourselves.

After researching so many different things over the past four years, trying this and that, spending pretty much a small fortune, and just about at my witts end, I finally came accross something that has helped me a great deal with my hive/rash problem. First though I want to go into what led me to this.

After a great deal of research on various things I began doing research on HGH (The Human Growth Hormone). The reason I decided to look into this was because HGH was reported to promote regeneration internally, so to gain more information, I went to the health store I had been doing business with to find out more information.

It turned out that the owner and her husband were taking this product, and she knew a great deal about it, now on the other hand if you are as hypersensitive as I am, meaning I can almost look at something and break out into hives, you learn to be very careful, so before I spend any money on anything I always try to see if I can get samples.

Well she didn't have samples, but she did give me some out of her own personal supply, although some of the ingredients it contained caused me problems in the past when I tried other supplaments, I thought it's worth a shot. Well I did have a reaction to it so I decided to do some research on each individual ingredient to see what it was that stimulated the pituitary gland in the brain to begin producing HGH as it did when we were younger.

It turned out that there was only ingredient in the formula that actually did it, was an amino acid called L-Arginine. So I then started to do more research on amino acids and other than the fact that most are naturally occuring, sometimes we need a little help in restoring the balance.

The recommended way to use it was two hours before bed time on an empty stomack to get the highest stimulation. I tried that and noticed I did feel better as far as energy but I was still reacting, I then researched further and came accross information on enzymes.

For now I am not going to go into much more detail on this, but I will be posting more later.

Hogan Grimm

[HAIRDOER]

Ok Hogan, we are waiting patiently again. I am so good at waiting so take your time. I am used to it. I can wait longer. Just kidding. HURRY UP would ya!!!! lol But seriously, how much longer you gonna be? I guess I will check back in a minute. Is it later yet?
Sure hope your cure lasts longer than mine!! HA HA Ok, I think I am done cracking up now. No wait......... I already crack me up! Can't wait to hear about the acid trip you have been on. And I was wondering if your friend, little amino was from Mexico? Or did you say Argentino. And is this HGH stuff something new? Is that the stuff that gives you the highest stimulation? Have I thoroughly confussed you yet? Just kidding. I just love to mix up words. I should of been a politition I think. I wonder if all the drugs I have taken have scrambled my brain too. hummmmm.
Thanks again for all your interesting info. I got too obsessed a few months ago trying to find a answer for this so I had to take a break. My eyes were tired and I was neglecting too many family things. SO I do really appreciate all your work. I will go back to patiently waiting for your wise words. I need sleep before I completely crack today. See ya......