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Old 08-08-2005, 02:03 PM   #1
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Natural, fluoride free toothpastes?

I've been wanting to use a more natural type of toothpaste, and one that that doesn't have fluroide in it. I used a Lavendar Mint Toothpaste from Burt's Bees. It's 100 natural and has no fluroide in it. I had to get used to the consistency at first. It's more 'liquidy' than the common toothpastes, as the common ones use chemicals to make them foam up more. When I ran out of the Burt's Bees Toothpaste, I went to a local health food store, and they needed to order some more of it. So I decided to try a natural toothpaste from Tom's of Maine. They had a fluoride version(I'm not sure how fluoride is natural), and a non-fluoride version. Anyway, I got the non-flouride version.

I still had the box from the Burt's Bees toothpaste, and I noticed that it said there was no Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in it. I looked at the ingredients in the Tom's of Maine toothpaste, and I saw that Sodium Lauryl Sulfate was an ingredient in it. I was wondering exactly what Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is? But I'd also like to get other people's oppinions on some good natural,
non-fluoride toothpastes? Will a non-fluoride toothpaste protect my teeth from cavities just as well as a toothpaste that has fluoride in it? Thanks.

 
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Re: Natural, fluoride free toothpastes?

Hi Concerned Male,
I can answer one of your questions...sodium laurel sulfate is a detergent. You'll probably find it in your shampoo too. It's was makes the t-paste foam up, like people are used to. I have sensitivities to sulfates, so I've been looking for natural ones, too.
I couldn't find a Toms of Maine without the s.l.s., but the propo;os & myrhh really makes my teeth feel clean. I alternate with Jasons Healthy Mouth t-paste with tea tree oil & cinnamon. The taste is hard to get used to, but no s.l.s. or flouride in in that I can see on the label.
I was under the assumption that flouride was a naturally occuring substance, although do not know if it harmful with repeated use. I always thought flouride was what protects your teeth from decay.

 
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Re: Natural, fluoride free toothpastes?

Me too, I thought fluoride was a good thing unless you have some kind of allergy to it.

 
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Re: Natural, fluoride free toothpastes?

The mucus membranes in the mouth are extremely permeable. This means that certain chemicals will go right through those membranes like there is nothing there. Flouride is supposed to help remineralize the tooth. Flouride (Sodium Flouride) is used to kill rats, it's also used in drinking water. There is a reason there are warning labels on toothpastes for children. There is enough flouride in a tube of toothpaste to kill 2 small children. This has been proven. There is much debate over it's use, but little debate among those in the alternative health care field. Like any other toxins that you ingest in your body, the culmulative effects are not known until it's too late. Error on the side of saftey. When researching toothpastes last year (funny what we do when we fall seriously ill) I discovered that there are about 6 that don't use Sodium Laurel Sulfate or flouride. Weleda is one. There is another that starts with "P" but I can not find my bookmark. I have tried neither. It's almost impossible to find the stuff in stores. I now consider the local grocery stores to be TOXIC HAVENS. I crinze when walking through the isles at all the boxes of posions. Tom's makes up a lame excuse as to why they use SLS right on their site. You would think they are part of the ADA (Who keeps saying how safe amalgam is, then refuses to back this up saying whatever happens is the result of what the Dentist places and they are not to blame). A bit Hypocritical. The ADA is part of the bought and sold medical establishment. Do I sound bitter enough? There is this overwhelming acceptance in the food and drug industry that if it's in a small enough amount it is somehow safe to use. Most cosmetics have not undergone any kind of long term testing. You're skin absorbs chemicals, and you'll find SLS in shampoos, soaps, toothpastes, etc. Finding a flouride free AND SLS free toothpaste is tough. Plus just because it may not contain these ingrediants doesn't make it safe. There are a host of artificial sweetners in toothpastes, and many natural ingrediants like Carrageen (comes from red seaweed) are passed off as "Natural", except the way they extract the Carrageen is by using harsh chemicals. So what is natural? Research MSG and all the "hidden" names the food industry uses to "hide" it in their products. It's scarey that everyone is so concerned with making a buck that they would let the health concerns of an entire nation go down the toliet. But it's always the "other guy" who gets the cancer isn't it? The more you learn the more you become disgusted with Corporate America.

I wouldn't chance posting the web address, but you can read the Environmental Working Groups "Skin Deep" report online. It contains extensive research on cosmetics including toothpastes. You might be suprised to learn that standard "Colgate Regular) flouride and all tested safer than JASONS Organics. Hmmm. The lesson is just because it is "organic" doesn't make it safe either. So what do we do? Well in the long run we are lucky to get 75 years (I doubt I'll ever see that) so just brush and rinse as well as you can. I like to use a waterpic with a saline solution (uniodized table salt + baking soda). I do this until I can taste no more minty freshness. Too bad there are not better answers. By the way Tom's Kids Goofy Grape tested very well, SLS and all! Too bad SLS has been proven to cause canker sores.

Almost all toothpaste contains a toxin called sodium lauryl sulfate. This synthetic detergent and its chemical cousins will go through mucus membranes and bioaccumulate in eye, heart, and liver tissue. People who are having eye trouble never stop to think that their toothpaste may have contributed to their problem. Two years ago, a German study published in a British medical journal concluded that sodium lauryl sulfate caused gum disease. Do you really want this in your toothpaste?

 
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Re: Natural, fluoride free toothpastes?

Thanks for the replies. Yes, there is a lot of info on the web that talks about how fluoride is a toxin. It's an industrial pollutant that comes from places such as phosphate fertilizer plants. It's used in rat poison, like notpain said. I've heard how fluoride can contribute to thyroid problems, and other negative consequences. Fluroide has been documented as being a mutagen. Many mutagens are also carcinogens. So there is concern that toothpaste with fluoride may may cause or contribute to oral cancer.

I don't see how companies can be allowed to put a poisonous substance into something that goes into our mouths, especially children's mouths. On the back of a common toothpaste, I read that if a child swallows more than the amount that is used to brush your teeth during one brushing, that you should call the Poison Control place immediately. Fluoride has also been added to a lot of communites water supplies, so people can get an overabundance of fluroide when they drink the water.

I think I'll get the Burt's Bee's non-fluoride toothpaste again. Since it's 100 percent natural, and does not contain any Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. I read that a natural sugar named xylitol has been found to be very effective in tooth decay, and it's in some natural types of toothpastes. A healthy diet is also said to be very important to fight against tooth decay.

 
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