Hi All:
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion or any knowledge on the benefits of distilled water. I have a large kidney stone and was told by a herbalist that i should drink distilled water because it does not have minerals. Being that a kidney stone is a calcium deposit, that would mean that my intake of calcium is not going into my bones it is floating in the blood and going into the kidney creating a stone. He said i should drink at least a gallon a day of distilled water and hopefully it will dissolve the stone. I drink a gallon of water now, but not distilled. i actually drink high ph water that i get from a special store because i was trying to alkaline my body. For some reason, I think I have some kind of an absorption problem. I think it could be candida in the intestines. I have been trying to get rid of it, but the diet is impossible. Anyway, i would love any input. Thanks. Goodnight. laLa P.s. I also posted this on other boards in case you are a board hopper like myself (LOL)
The chances of distilled water disolving a kidney stone are about the same as the second comming of christ happening in your bedroom - its possible, but I wouldnt count on it happening.
Calcium stones arnt generaly a sign of too much calcium, they are a sign of excess calcium oxylate in the urine. To get rid of the stone, you can either wait for it to pass, try and have it shattered by high frequency sound waves, or have it removed surgicaly.
To prevent new stones forming, drinking planty of water (normal tap water is fine) is a good idea, and maybe take a daily dose of bendrofluazide or some other thiazide diuretic.
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Hi LaLa52 I think soft water is a good idea. The water in some cities is filled with chemicals for antibacterial purpose and also sometimes mineral from the reservoir content. Keeping the distiller clean is also important. I think pills are more things for the kidneys to filter and make an extra burden for them. Lemon, apples, freshly made apple juice, red mombin and olive oil might be of benefit.
Yeah distiled water contains no minerals and it helps in dissolving your calcium stone because you don't require any more calcium. Why don't you try laser therapy.
John:
Thanks for your reply. I am so confused about the water thing. In the summer I was drinking a gallon of water a day of high ph water. Recently it was mentioned i should try the distilled water. Everyone has a different opinion. Another person mentioned RO water. (Reversed osmosis) water. I am so confused in general. Not just about the water but about supplements in general. There are so many different opinions of what is good and what is not. I have to also mention that I am not suffering with the kidney stone. I know it is there and am afraid if this thing moves that i am going to be in severe pain, as iat is quite large, and have to be rushed to the hospital. The last place you want to be is there. You can come home sicker then before you went in. I have not considered laser therapy. I will have to look into it. Is that the same as blasting? My other issue is that how did i get this kidney stone to begin with? I am told that i am not absorbing calcium properly. that it is going into the blood instead of the bones and thats how it ends up in the kidney. The question is why? I am now taking vitamin K2 and not taking calcium at the moment. Do you see what I am saying. It is all too confusing. My blood work for calcium has not necessarily been out of range, but it is at the highest you can go within the range. One time is was slightly above. I think i will go for another blood test after being on the K2 for a while and see if there is any change. In the meantime, I was also just told that distilled water is acidic in the body. My body needs to be alkaline because i feel that I might have an overgrowth of yeast or bacteria in the colon. i have chronic chronic chronic gas and digestive problems and constipation unless i take something for that. i take some natural things for that. I also take oil of oregano. i can go on and on but I have to get out of my house. I have things to do. i also have fatigue and that is another reason i don't get out. When I am home and not working, I lack the energy. I do push myself to go to the gym though. About 4 times a week on average. Anyway, gotta run. Thanks for any input you or anybody else might have. LaLa
The following user gives a hug of support to lala52: sjb (04-20-2011)
Hi All:
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion or any knowledge on the benefits of distilled water. I have a large kidney stone and was told by a herbalist that i should drink distilled water because it does not have minerals. Being that a kidney stone is a calcium deposit, that would mean that my intake of calcium is not going into my bones it is floating in the blood and going into the kidney creating a stone. He said i should drink at least a gallon a day of distilled water and hopefully it will dissolve the stone. I drink a gallon of water now, but not distilled. i actually drink high ph water that i get from a special store because i was trying to alkaline my body. For some reason, I think I have some kind of an absorption problem. I think it could be candida in the intestines. I have been trying to get rid of it, but the diet is impossible. Anyway, i would love any input. Thanks. Goodnight. laLa P.s. I also posted this on other boards in case you are a board hopper like myself (LOL)
Surely you should drink when you are thirsty. A gallon a day seems about double the fluid you need. If you are also having soup, tea or soda you are consuming too much in the way of fluids I would think. Your poor kidneys are having to work overtime, and you are washing out your body salts and upsetting the electrolytes which can make you quite ill. Find out from someone who knows and certainly not a herbalist.
James
SBJ:
I was eating lots of spinach and broccoli which is high in calcium. I have recently cut down on those veggies. I was taking calcium supplements. I stopped that and am now taking Vit. K2. I do take other supplements as well. As far as protein. I don't think I over eat on that. I would say pretty average. LaLa
James:
Everyone I speak to says I should drink at least a gallon a day. I have not really been making that amount lately. But when I do, I am including tea. I don't drink soda. Soup I just have once in a while when it is cold. laLa
James:
Everyone I speak to says I should drink at least a gallon a day. I have not really been making that amount lately. But when I do, I am including tea. I don't drink soda. Soup I just have once in a while when it is cold. laLa
If I remember this water consumption was made up during or just after ww2 and people have been following this since. I asked my wife and she believed it should be a gallon a day. Asked why, she said everybody knows this! I cant see any reason why you wouldn't just drink when you are thirsty. It may be that some elderly and or children should be monitored. It seems unfortunate that something such as fluid intake should be medicalized nowadays. I have read articles in popular magazines extolling the virtues of a gallon a day to flush out the "poisons" what ever they are. The facts may be that kidneys work less efficiently with extra fluids. I suspect that the web has continued to make people believe that more fluids lead to better health but it is just a myth. I could not find a single piece of evidence based benefits anywhere.
James
Hi a person who weighs 250 pounds would need a gallon of water a day. Those weighing less need less. Those who drink too much can get water toxicity. Those who drink too little can get dehydrated. I would not be surprised if the calcium supplements were the cause in this case.
I used to drink distilled water but have recently read an article about it by Dr Mercola and he recommends that gases/chemicals are condensed back into the water during the distillation process??
Now steam distilled water is not considered as safe as it use to be and it's stored in plastic containers.
It may be that you investigate Distilled Water more to make a decision.
Storing water in plastic containers also containers outgas chemicals from the various plastics that are used. Use Glass.
Harry
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Hi Lala52: The experience some people have had with a distiller is that it at least has a scale of mineral or chemical leftover from the process after even one gallon of water. The water also tastes better. The only danger I see is if the collecting container or spout has any protozoa or bacteria contamination or has not been cleaned properly. Perhaps proper cleaning takes care of even this and some people recommend boiling the distilled water afterward in case of this problem.
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This is so ******confusing. I can't live with worrying about every single aspect of what goes in my body. I am pretty health conscious but this whole water thing and all that is out there in supplements, and what we eat, I am going out of my mind. Can't we just enjoy life without all this constant worry? It is getting out of hand. I really want to get better with all that has ailed me in the past several years, but at the same time i have had it with all this. I do appreciate your feedback though, and I will continue to post and read. I love the internet and all the info that is out there. I also love communicating with all of you. It is just, in general, getting crazy. Don't you agree? LaLa
lala,
I have been on these boards for 12 years. I have found that some areas can be quite confusing-- but the members are not the experts but tell of their own experiences.
To become well informed -- you have to find the Information written by the experts in their various fields. As I have found -- If you seek - YOU will Find.
Many books have been written about Water and some are very good but with as time(polution and processing byproducts) has changed our water system as well as others areas of our lives.
A good book worth reading is " Your Body's Many Cries For Water"
Since our bodies function on about 70% water --- it is well worth the effort for your our investigation-- and like myself you will find out what is best solution for you and the cost you are willing to pay for your water-- to get the the benefits you are looking for.
Sometimes there is just no simple answer for everyone.
But Keep the Faith---Harry
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The Following User Says Thank You to Harry For This Useful Post: sunshine12 (09-08-2011)
Hi just trying to help people understand the reasons behind the stones that is all. It really should be quite simple, pure clean food, pure clean water, healthy lifestyle.
SBJ:
I am not upset by you or your answers. I love being on the boards and getting ideas and input. I hope you did no take it personally. I just find the whole thing so confusing and overwhelming. I was living a normal life until I got sick over 5 yrs ago and can't seem to feel better even with all that I am doing. I have changed my life style as far as diet and routine working out and different supplements over the years and I am still not better. I have a little improvement but not enough. Thanks for your support and hopefully continued input. Have a great Easter. LaLa
The following user gives a hug of support to lala52: sjb (04-25-2011)
I've had stones (calcium oxylate) on and off for over 20 years.
The first one was what the Dr. called a 'staghorn' - it pretty much filled the kidney and started to grow into the 'fingers' of the kidney.
We did surgery (1990) to remove the larger pieces and then blasted the remains and used a stint to help clear out the smallest pieces. I understand the surgery is much improved today but I've been working on home remedies after have a couple BAD experiences with stints in later years. I had so much calcium in the urine that I grew stones on the stint and one time they left it in a week too long and I won't describe here the results (blood and pain-nuff said).
I personally doubt distilled water will help, but I think you are right to explore alkaline vs acid, it's helping me. One other thing I found on the internet years ago was Catnip tea to dissolve the stone. The Dr. told me I have a new 1" stone that we needed to remove. I started Catnip tea, lots of it and did no follow up with no bad results. A couple years later I had a urinary infection that blocked the urine flow and upon ER treatment, was x-rayed and the intern delivered the 'bad' news that I had a 1/2" stone. He didn't understand that it was 'good' news to me. That was years ago and I have passed a few small stones, but you can't pass a 1/2" or 1" stone, the tubes are too small for that. Personally, I really don't want to dissolve it until it's small enough to pass! However, you need to keep an eye on your urine, if it gets dark and/or cloudy, you need to get medical help, that can be more serious.
Good luck.
BTW - What did your Dr. say the K2 would help? That is new to me.
The following user gives a hug of support to sickofstone: sjb (09-08-2011)
Hey friend, thanks for making me aware about the benefits of the distilled water.
You have explained the topic in very good manner. Thanks again for writing about
the topic.
I think soft water is a good idea. The water in some cities is filled with chemicals for antibacterial purpose and also sometimes mineral from the reservoir content. Keeping the distiller clean is also important. I think pills are more things for the kidneys to filter and make an extra burden for them. Lemon, apples, freshly made apple juice, red mombin and olive oil might be of benefit. 
