I was working on getting my mother and father to go and sign DPOAs and 2 Living Will forms, that my attorney showed me, but as of right now, I have given up!!! My sister is going to work on them, still. I said I would help if they needed me when/if they go to sign somewhere else!!
My father (the one with alzheimers) would go along with anything that sounded useful if only my mother would agree to it. But...my mother is another story. I could go on and on about her attitude. She has uncontrolled diabetes and early dementia (prob. a 3). She thinks everyone (including us/her family) is out to take over her life and take all her money, land, and everything that is theirs! Sometimes she eggs me on, and I just yell at her, then she apologizes to me. Other times, I can hold it in and keep helping them and visiting, until I get in my car and drive home. Then the tears start flowing. I am sure part of her behaviour is due to her illnessess. I try to remind myself of that. And part is of her being a full time caregiver for my father. That is why I try to relieve her anytime she wants to go somewhere.
But she is the one that will not hear of any type of home care or cleaning people. She is the one that will not talk about adult day care. I think, right now, she thinks that my father will never need to go anywhere else, but at their home. She does agree that they may need to move sometime, but what she does not realize is, that they will move to 2 different places (Probably in the same town.).
I had been to our lawyer and talked with them and gotten copies of the legal forms and even a price list. I made copies for my sister and my parents. My sister and I each wrote them a letter, very nice and telling them that we love them and only care about their well being. I took it slow, more that 6 weeks. I would talk just a few minutes and show the forms every week. I even added up the amount of $ that they would need to pay (which was less that $500.) I even said we were going to get our will changed and get living wills done too.
Well, last Tuesday, she just flat out said that she was not going to do it with our lawyer and part was because of the $. She said that she would get some forms (free) and do it theirselves. I told her (without crying and yelling) that they will end up spending "Thousands of Dollars" more, because she would not do it now. And I also told her, that her way would probably not be legal. My poor little daddy just sits there and listens and only knows part of what is going on. He would not say, to do most things that my mother is against. I think that he knows that she takes the most care of him, and does not want to bite the hand that feeds him. The fact is she will most likely, never get anything accomplished, unless my sister can talk her into it. So...
Ok, now for the Helpful Information: I cooled down a little and am still doing some behind the scenes looking and researching. I called the Houston area Alzheimers Assoc. They were really helpful and I am sure I will call them back some more in the future. They are sending me a copy of what info. they have on alzheimers places in stay. They gave me the tele. # of the Houston Bar Assoc. too. I called them and they sent me a Elder Law Booklet. I had to send a SASE (8x10 manilla envelope with $1.85 postage on it) and a note telling what I wanted (the Elder Law Booklet). Well, I received in 2 days and read most of it.
Boy did that booklet really answer a lot of my questions!!! I think that I will get my sister to get one and read it. I do not know if it would help to get one sent to my parents. Might just make my mom upset (more!). So I will leave that up to my Sis. Anyone that does not have an Elder Law Attorney, should write off for their citys Elder Law Booklet (or the closest biggest City).
It really helps and will help in the future. Go for it ladies! :>
Thanks for listening to my BIG BOOK. Yall Take Care. Wannabe
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If your Dad can still answer questions about the president, day, month, his age - or can after rehersals - take him by himself to the elder lawyer. Getting half of it done is better thatn none, especially since he's the one that is further downstream.
Good luck! Barbara
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I know it's frustrating. My dad was like that too (he still has his moments). I tried to put myself in his shoes and came out with a little more understanding.
My dad is 79. He comes from a time where everyone had to be self sufficient. His family lived through the depression and he was in WWII. He moved pianos for a living. Now he has a hard time lifting a medium sized suitcase.
I see the look in his eyes when he has to ask for help with simple things. The look was once more of humiliation. Now the look is turning more towards confusion. Either way, dad knows what's happening to him. He was frustrated, scared, angry.
I suspect your mom is pretty burned out caring for your dad. And her own illnesses make matters worse. She knows that one day, she will be depending on you and your sister to help her. So maybe it makes her feel a bit better thinking she's not depending much on you just yet even though she may be.
One suggestion (take it or leave it as you wish), offer options to your mother. Avoid saying things like "You should" or "You need to". That used to throw my dad in defense (no, defiance) mode every time.
If your mom doesn't want to use your lawyer, tell her she can choose the lawyer. Sometimes the way we word things can make a lot of difference. I learned that the HARD way.
About the elder care booklet, order a copy for your mom and have it sent to her house in her name. She doesn't have to know you requested it.
And if your mom still doesn't want to do the DPOA, take your dad. Tell him you just want to be sure that your mom is taken care of should something happen to him.
Love, Barb
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I really do appreciate your advice and help! I am afraid that if I took my dad by myself to my lawyer (1 hr. away), and she found out, she would ban me from coming over to their house to help them. She has said several times, that she should just take my dad and the two of them should just go out of town for a few days. She says this when she thinks they have been to a dr. appt. every week (she does not like drs. or spending $ on them or them giving my dad pills.). Twice when this happens. Or when she gets upset with me trying to urge them to do a living will or DPOA. Once when this happened. She might would eventually calm down and "let" me come back and help them. But by then the checkbook and finances and drs. would probably be a big giant mess! What to do? I will check yalls ideas out with my sister. She is more calm, because she lives 4 hr. away.
Barb, I know what you are talking about - about putting yourself in their shoes. I try to keep reminding myself, to stop and think, before I say something. And, most of the time I do, but... My niece says, that my mom just knows how to "turn my key", so she does it whenever we disagree or whenever she does not feel good or is tired! My niece is the only other relative with 1 hrs. range of their house. Actually she is within 15 - 30 min., closer than me. She works a lot and has kids, but she is trying to see after them 1x week!
I did offer my mom to do the papers herself and she said she would, but I do not know if or when she will. She is really busy with my dad and she gets tired easily.
I know they both get frustrated and feel a little helpless, having to ask their daughter and SIL to help them with things that they cannot do anymore! I think my dad has come to terms with it. But my mom still tries to act like she can do everything without my help. But my dad is the one who asked me in the first place 1 1/2 yrs. ago to help with the finances (checkbook, bills and tax time).
If you could tell me a way to offer my mom options on the DPOA/Living Will thing, and the Home Health Care/Adult Day Care thing, I would be willing to try. Really, I would. I would give anything, not to be at odds at times, with my mother. I would say it happens about 1 x month. Out of 4 - 6 times. I just do not think, that my mother would even be open to options or choices (still trying to run her life). And you a right, I have said "You should" and "You need to"!!! I am sure that that irks her. She does not like anyone telling her what to do - especially her daughter!
My sister is going to call 2 of my moms friends and talk to them - to try to get them to just talk to her and see her more often. Also, she thinks that they might influence her on the legal papers.
And I think I will (Monday), have a copy of the Elder Law Booklet sent to my mom and dads. I will just have to disguise my handwriting on the SASE. It sure could not hurt.
Thanks again girls for all your help. Anything else you need or want to tell me - about this subject, write back again. You words help me to rethink and to think about how I approach this problem. CALM, THINK, USE THE CORRECT WORDS, MORE UNDERSTANDING, MORE CARING!!! These are what I need to practice, and if I can - hold off till I am in my car on the way back home to let loose!!!
Take care. Wannabe
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