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Old 02-18-2006, 03:10 PM   #1
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Unhappy discouraging news

I can't believe this - I just heard from Bill that the elder lawyer can't accept the 20 printed pages Bill got - with great difficulty- from the IRS about Mom's income or lack therof.

No no, it has to be a form xxxx. Not printed copies of things. Not good enough; not possible to send in the Medicaid application yet. He won't send it in until he is 100% sure there is no reason in it for the state to reject Mom's application.

Back to square one. Bill has to get THAT form. He will keep trying. Phonecalls are of no use.

It is frustrating and very very expensive- this surely will mean Mom can't get on Medicaid on April 1, meaning a huge expense for us, or, someone takes her home...

What a letdown!

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Re: discouraging news

Oh Martha. It's a big mess, isn't it? Is there any way that Medicaid might retro when it's accepted? They did lose the form and claim they never got it.

Oh but they probably wouldn't admit that.

Poor Bill. After all that chasing around. And all the phone calls you made. I really wish there was something I could say to ease your worries.

And that lawyer should have been specific on what he needed in the first place....

Big hugs to you, dear. Everything will come into place and work out. It's just a pain trying to maneuver things into working out they way we need them to.

Crossing my fingers and toes and hoping everything moves smoothly and swiftly in yours and Bill's and mom's favor.

Shrea Shrea......

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Re: discouraging news

Hi Martha,

I think that whoever is messing with you and your brother - and to say nothing of your mother, should be horsewhipped!!! Is there anyway that you and your brother and maybe (reluctant) sis, can go to the state agency that handles this and bombard them with all the papers and such that yall have produced in this effort so far???!!!

Your poor brother has been working his "your know what" off, trying to get Medicaid to help your mom. That is so unfair, of so many people just to Not Help! (I guess that is the right word for what they are or are not doing?!)

And what about the lawyer who got all that money (from your mom)?! Shouldnt he be doing a little foot work himself??? I would think that lawyer could get the correct form with just one phone call!!!

If I were yall, I would be calling anywhere/one and everywhere/one that I thought was connected with this Medicaid snafu, till it got fixed! Cant the NH help any? What about a Social Worker??? I know it is easy for me to give yall advice and tell you, that I would do this and I would do that. But, until I am in your shoes, who knows what I would or could do. It just makes me so angry!!!!!!!!!! :<

I am sorry, I hope that someone intervenes and fixing everything just so and it is all taken care of really soon.

We are thinking of you.

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Re: discouraging news

Hope Bill finds the right person to straighten this out quickly. It's no fair that the elderly and their families are made to jump throught such hoops. Shame on the system and legislators that put up these roadblocks.

((((((((((hugs)))))))))) to you and Bill! Barbara

 
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Re: discouraging news

Whenever there is a crisis involving Mom, I can always count on my brother to think of some helpful solution, and on my sister to annoy me with impossible suggestions. It is the same again.

She finally picked up email about the new problem with Mom's IRS statement, and writes email to me and to Bill.

She says that it is OK if Medicaid does not accept Mom. She says people in all previous generations have always taken care of old people by themselves, with no nursing homes (she forgets that people lived in extended families in the same village, and someone was always home, the mother, a few unmarried aunts, etc, to share this care, and that people did not live to be 97!)

She says we will each take care of Mom for 4 months of the year. Simple. No problem.

Yet .. when Mom was well, walking around, in her right mind and good company, E invited her to stay with them for 1 or 2 weeks a year!

And last year about this time, when Mom was already stage 4 dementia, E had Mom there for 3 weeks and pretended there was nothing wrong with her (but Mom said she had to wear Depends while there!) and E's husband said they put earphones on Mom so she could listen to music and shut up. ...

And they made very sure they didn't tell me 'Mom is fine and scintillating company" until Mom was on the plane coming home. Not once since then was she invited again ... yes, she was supposed to go in October, but then fall and broke her hip.

So now suddenly we can all take her for 4 months at a time? Maybe she means 'let's you and Bill take her in for 4 months each', and then she will expect Mom's life to be over before it's her turn. Or will she come up with last Fall's excuse "I have osteoporosis and stairs, Bill has stairs, so the only one who can really take her in is MARTHA out there in a one story apartment in Indiana ..."

AAARRRGHGHGHGH!!

I shot off an answer - no no no no no. I will not take Mom back to live with me, not ever. She must be in a NH no matter what. Bill already said he would mortgage his house to keep her there, I said I'd sell my car and use up any savings I might have, but Mom has to stay there!

In 4 or 5 days she might bother to read this email and might even answer ...
Meanwhile I feel better already seeing you, my friends, rolling your eyes!!
It's just that it's all talk with her. No action. She promised Bill she would take over the whole legal matter, phonecalls etc and did nothing. NOT a thing.

And out of the blue she says it's OK if Mom can't stay there - we will take care of her at home. Wheelchair bound, incontinent, Alzheimers stage 5 to 6, and we will somehow manage, all of us 60 to 68 years old ourselves with the usual aches and pains .... and I am committed to baby sitting for my granchildren 1 or 2 days a week and one whole night a week .... how do I do that? leave Mom here in bed alone?

And Mom is happy there - entertained, fed, washed, changed, given her meds, tucked in at night, monitored by doctors and nurses.

I surprised myself in the vehemence of my answer. Not, 'oh no, I hope not!' But 'NO WAY!'


love,

Martha

Last edited by Martha H; 02-19-2006 at 07:03 PM.

 
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