It appears you have not yet registered with our community. To register please click here...


 Home Message Boards Videos Join for Free User Blogs Board Index
Search
 
Forgot your username or password?


Alzheimer's Disease & Dementia Message Board
Post New Thread   Closed Thread
Share
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-12-2007, 12:38 AM   #1
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 46
Hugs: 0
Hugged 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
savv55 HB User
New Member - First Post

My 89 year old father passed away March 9th. His death was not directly connected to his Alzheimer but he had experienced rapid decline since last year and was in mid to later stage judging from his symptoms. He developed a bladder infection which went into his blood stream (septacaemia), and pnuemonia. While in hospital he developed a third infection from the antibiotics and was placed in isolation. He was in hospital for over 3 weeks and he refused to eat or drink during most of that time. He could communicate very little and we were not sure whether he was comprehending where he was or why. We don't know if he just didn't want to eat, felt too sick to eat, or could not swallow. His food was all mashed and all liquids were thickened. He seemed to either hate the food or the food hurt his mouth. We tried all of his favorite foods - he would take a bite or two then hold up his hand. He had provided us with a living will 17 years ago which I used as the basis for not seeking a feeding tube. I have struggled with that decision since making it. Once he was off the i.v. antibiotics (and fluids) and "clinically" better, he was able to voluntarily eat and drink, or not - he continued to refuse. It had been three weeks already since he'd eaten. It was a terrible to watch him waste away and die, not knowing if he knew that by not eating he would die. I don't think he did understand the consequences, but I knew he would hate to go on with a permanent catheter and likely a permanent feeding tube. He hated being in hospital and the only words I could make out in his last days was that he wanted to go home. In the past 4 months, home was back to where he was born and hasn't lived for 40 years. He wanted me to take him. He looked at me with such longing in his eyes, it broke my heart. I sat with him around the clock in the isolation room for 5 days until he passed away. I have read some of your postings about the final stages of the disease for your loved ones and I know he was lucky to go before the disease took any more of him. He knew who we were, he still was able to smile when family would walk into the room and he would try to talk to us. I know he is in a more peaceful place.

The second part of this story is that my 86 year old mother also has Alzheimer. She has had it for much longer (or there has been evidence for much longer) so her experience is a slower progression. Until October last year Dad tried to look after her, since then home care workers have been helping while we awaited placement in a Nursing home for both of them. Now that my Dad is gone, my Mother is going to the nursing home alone. She is very depressed and we expect the move to be very distressing for her as well as my sister and myself. Her move in was today and my sister handled it. I am awaiting word on how she is. I see many similar comments written in your posting about how your loved ones felt about being in a home. It is so hard to make these decisions for your parents but I have found encouragement in your words.

I wish I had found this site sooner as I have searched for information so many times in the past months. I am puzzled that we could not have known that Dad had Alzheimer until he was in mid to late stages. My sister and I wonder if we just refused to see it - or if it is possible to see this sort of rapid decline. There was an incident last July that seemed to start this decline for both of them. Without going into great detail, my Dad left a tap running in the apartment they'd rented for 20 years - the landlady successfully evicted them (after a hearing, etc.). We had to move them to a city to get them into a senior's residence (none in the town they had lived), and then my sister sold her house and moved to be closer to them but they were completely out of their familiar surroundings. In July we didn't know my Dad had Alzheimer, in December we took the car away and by January he didn't recognize himself or my mother in the mirror or even understand the concept of a mirror!

This is a long posting for a first message, I just didn't know where to start. I'd be interested if anyone else has experienced such a seemingly rapid decline of a loved one.

 
Sponsors Lightbulb
   
Old 04-12-2007, 06:29 AM   #2
cyt cyt is offline
Senior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 262
Hugs: 0
Hugged 7 Times in 7 Posts
Thanks: 2
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
cyt HB User
Re: New Member - First Post

Hi and welcome, there are so many experienced and kind members here to help you. I just wanted to say after reading your post that maybe your Dad was having mini strokes or even small strokes. My Dad had a large stroke and then had several seizures and he sounds a lot like your Dad. He went downhill fast and in the end couldn't eat. He ended up in a VA nursing home and we refused an IV. He lasted 2 weeks. It was difficult, but we knew that is what he wanted. He had no quality of life and couldn't do anything, but he still knew us up until the end. We know he is at peace now and he wouldn't want to live with a feeding tube the way he was. Anyway, I hope you find peace and good luck with your Mom. It must be so hard to watch both parents go downhill. My Mom is 80 and so far is doing well. My FIL has dementia caused from mini strokes. He can't make new memories, and forgets a lot of things, but still knows how to basically care for himself and still knows us. He is in a senior apt. complex next to a nursing home for when the time comes. Keep us posted and glad you found this site. Blessings, C

 
Old 04-12-2007, 06:37 AM   #3
Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 447
Hugs: 0
Hugged 9 Times in 9 Posts
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
petal*pusher HB User
Re: New Member - First Post

savv.....your compassion jumps out easily by reading between the lines of your post. Such challenges you have had! This horrendous disease robs us all of much more than the loss of our loved one.

I remember reading that, in some patients...even something as small as a cold can accelerate the progress of Alzheimer's. Your father seemed to several things that could easily speed it up. One thing I've learned is that this disease has many faces; it can quietly creep into your life with subtle changes...or quickly become very obvious. The fact that your dad was your mother's caretaker is such an admirable feat! My own mother is in a wonderful facility (9 years)...both of my in-laws were placed in seperate places a year ago with Alzheimer's. Each of them have been diagnosed with the same disease, but the progression is very different in them.

It is good you have your mother in a safe environment. I agree...this is a wonderful place learn, share, and express. Sending good vibes your way.........Pam

 
Old 04-12-2007, 07:11 AM   #4
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Martha H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,696
Hugs: 26
Hugged 111 Times in 110 Posts
Thanks: 3
Thanked 122 Times in 120 Posts
Martha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB UserMartha H HB User
Re: New Member - First Post

I found this Board in 2004 when my Mom was already in stage 4, rapidly approaching 5, but the rest of the family was still pretty much in denial. I was totally ignorant about this disease and was so bewildered that I was often at my wits end. I sent in a cry for help not really expecting anything.

I was so happy when I got several answers from caring people who had been or were now in the same boat. I suddenly was not alone! There were people out there who even took my side against my relatives who were in denial. It saved my life.

Welcome, and I hope you also get all the moral support and information that you need, as well as a place to vent. I really made use of that aspect - some might remember the time I walked barefoot into the bathroom and stepped on a pile of Moms poo.

I would have screamed out loud if I hadn't had this place to complain and lament!

Now my Mom is in a safe and loving nursing home, nearing the end of her long long life. Her Dementia progressed rather slowly, but noticeably. My brother visits her often; I can only go 2 or 3 times a year since I moved far away from there when I retired in 2005. My sister still thinks there is not all that much wrong with her.

Love,

Martha

 
Old 04-12-2007, 07:39 AM   #5
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 12
Hugs: 0
Hugged 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
youngest sib HB User
Re: New Member - First Post

First off, don't beat yourself up regarding your dad. You say he smiled when you came into the room, that he knew who you were. If he was that aware, I'm sure he also knew the consequences of not eating. Sounds like he made a choice and you honored it by not forcing other measures. I remember when my dad was in the hospital dying of cancer. He kept pulling the tubes out of his nose and arms until the hospital staff tied his hands to the rails. When visiting him days before his death, he begged me to untie him. I remember the feeling of total despair when I refused. I hated seeing him tied like a criminal but I knew I was too much of a coward to be a part of his quicker death. Try to find peace with the fact that you made the right decision and you were strong enough to be there for his last days. He must be so proud of you!
And your mom will be alright too. My mom is now in her seventh week of being placed in an assisted living facitly. They tell me it gets easier but so far that's not the case. I'm consumed with these events. I go to sleep wondering if she's okay, I wake up wondering what she's doing. But I know that she's safe and the staff where she is seem wonderful. It's just hard that they don't understand why they're there and always want to go back to their home where they felt secure and everything is familiar.
I'm new to this board too and it's a great place to vent, get advice or just to know that others have the same problems.
Too bad our respective governments didn't read some of these posts. Maybe they would spend some of our money on making sure that our elderly could live in dignity without spending every last cent they have.
Good luck to you and your family. Sounds like you've made all the right decisions no matter how hard it is now.

 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
another new member 56scared Brain Tumors 63 03-24-2010 07:31 PM
New Member dreams in neon Self-injury Recovery 31 04-04-2009 06:34 PM
New member and my problem. Your input is appreciated drgkn210 Bowel Disorders 6 02-12-2009 07:31 AM
When a member is absent: please read >>> Administrator Kidney Disorders 0 07-20-2007 12:28 AM
EPILEPTOLOGIST! Please help find a board member from over a year ago, she was a regu tkdmom96 Epilepsy 33 04-20-2005 03:50 PM
I can not see any member in the list. bkr43050 Registration/Membership/Site Problems 6 03-11-2005 10:34 AM
Im now a MEMBER! TICKED-OFF Lyme Disease 5 12-16-2004 06:12 PM
New Member here delurking and ?? on zoloft angel1064 Anxiety 3 09-28-2004 07:52 AM
New member - 1st IUI cpa2b Infertility 6 07-08-2003 03:47 PM
New member with some questions. Ucypher Exercise & Fitness 2 05-13-2002 10:38 AM




Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off









Top 10 Drugs Discussed on this Board.
(Go to DrugTalk.com for complete list)
Aricept
Aspirin
Ativan
Morphine
Namenda
  Reminyl
Risperdal Seroquel
Xanax
Zoloft


Message Boards
  • Open to All Other Health Topics
  • It's Life - Off Topic Discussions
  • Natural Disaster Sympathies and Support
  • Health News
  • HealthBoards Testimonials
  • Suggestions for New Boards
  • Registration/Membership/Site Problems
  • Health Issues
  • General Health
  • Abuse Support
  • Acid Reflux / GERD
  • Acne
  • Share Your Acne Story
  • Acne Tips
  • Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS)
  • ADD / ADHD
  • Addiction & Recovery
  • Addison's Disease
  • Aging Issues
  • Allergies
  • Alternative Medicine
  • Alzheimer's Disease & Dementia
  • Amputation / Prosthetic
  • Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
  • Anemia
  • Aneurysm
  • Anger Management
  • Angina
  • Anxiety
  • Share Your Anxiety Story
  • Anxiety Tips
  • Arthritis
  • Asperger's Syndrome
  • Asthma
  • Autism Spectrum
  • Autoimmune Disorders
  • Back Problems
  • Beauty & Cosmetics
  • Bell's Palsy
  • Bipolar Disorder
  • Birth Control
  • Blood and Blood Vessel
  • Bone Disorders
  • Bowel Disorders
  • Brain & Head Injury
  • Brain & Nervous System Disorders
  • Brain Tumors
  • Breastfeeding
  • Burns & Injuries
  • Cancer
  • Cancer: Bladder
  • Cancer: Bone
  • Cancer: Brain
  • Cancer: Breast
  • Cancer: Cervical & Ovarian
  • Cancer: Colon
  • Cancer: Esophageal
  • Cancer: Kidney
  • Cancer: Lung
  • Cancer: Oral
  • Cancer: Pancreatic & Liver
  • Cancer: Prostate
  • Cancer: Rectal & Anal
  • Cancer: Skin
  • Cancer: Stomach
  • Cancer: Testicular
  • Cancer: Throat
  • Cancer: Thyroid
  • Cancer: Uterine
  • Candida
  • Caregivers
  • Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
  • Celiac Disease
  • Cerebral Palsy
  • Chemotherapy
  • Children - Special Needs
  • Children's Health
  • Chronic Fatigue
  • Codependency
  • Colds & Flu
  • Swine Flu (H1N1)
  • Cosmetic / Plastic Surgery
  • Costochondritis
  • Crohn's Disease / Ulcerative Colitis
  • Cystic Fibrosis
  • Death & Dying
  • Degenerative Diseases
  • Dental Health
  • Depression
  • Share Your Depression Story
  • Depression Tips
  • Diabetes
  • Hypoglycemia
  • Diet & Nutrition
  • Digestive Disorders
  • Disabilities
  • Divorce & Separation
  • Dizziness / Vertigo
  • Down Syndrome
  • Drug Interactions
  • Dyslexia
  • Dysphagia
  • Ear, Nose & Throat
  • Eating Disorder Recovery
  • Endocrine Disorders
  • Endometriosis
  • Environmental Disorders
  • Epilepsy
  • Epstein Barr Virus (EBV)
  • Exercise & Fitness
  • Eye & Vision
  • Family & Friends of Cancer Patients
  • Family & Friends of the Mentally Ill
  • Family Planning / Adoption
  • Fibromyalgia
  • Foot Problems
  • Gallbladder
  • Genetic Disorders
  • Grief & Loss
  • Hair Loss / Alopecia
  • Hair Problems
  • Headaches & Migraines
  • Health Insurance Issues
  • Healthcare Professionals
  • Healthy Lifestyle
  • Hearing Disorders
  • Heart Disorders
  • Hepatitis
  • Hernia
  • Herpes
  • High & Low Blood Pressure
  • High Cholesterol
  • HIV Prevention
  • HIV/AIDS Living With
  • Hormone Problems
  • Hospice
  • Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
  • Hypochondria
  • Hysterectomy
  • Immune Disorders
  • Incontinence
  • Infant Care (up to 18 months old)
  • Infectious Diseases
  • Infertility
  • Share Your Infertility Story
  • Inner Ear Disorders
  • Interstitial Cystitis (IC)
  • Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
  • Kidney Disorders
  • Knee & Hip Problems
  • Lasik Eye Surgery
  • Learning Disorders
  • Leukemia
  • Liver & Pancreas Disorders
  • Lung & Respiratory Disorders / COPD
  • Lupus
  • Lyme Disease
  • Share Your Lyme Disease Story
  • Lymphedema
  • Lymphomas
  • Men's Health
  • Menopause
  • Mental Health
  • Mesothelioma
  • Military Health Issues
  • Miscarriage & Still Birth
  • Mononucleosis
  • Multiple Sclerosis
  • Muscular Dystrophy
  • Myositis
  • Nail Problems
  • Neurofibromatosis
  • Neurology
  • Neuromuscular Diseases
  • Neuropathy
  • Nutritional Disorders
  • Obesity
  • Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
  • Occupational Health & Safety
  • Orthopedic
  • Osteoporosis
  • Pain Management
  • Chronic Pain
  • Share Your Pain Management Story
  • Panic Disorders
  • Paralysis
  • Parenting Issues
  • Parkinson's Disease
  • Personality Disorder
  • Phobias
  • Pituitary Disease
  • Polio
  • Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS)
  • Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
  • Postpartum Depression (PPD)
  • Pregnancy
  • Share Your Pregnancy Story
  • Pregnancy Tips
  • 2010 Mommies
  • 2011 Mommies
  • Pregnancy-Teen
  • Prostatitis
  • Psoriasis
  • Rape / Sexual Abuse
  • Rare Disorders
  • Raynaud's Syndrome
  • Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy
  • Relationship Health
  • Restless Leg Syndrome
  • Rosacea
  • Sarcoidosis
  • Schizophrenia
  • Scoliosis
  • Self-injury Recovery
  • Senior Health
  • Sexual Dysfunction Treatment
  • Sexual Health - General
  • Sexual Health - Men
  • Sexual Health - Teens
  • Sexual Health - Women
  • Sexually Transmitted Diseases
  • Shingles
  • Shoulder / Rotator Cuff Problems
  • Shyness
  • Sickle Cell Anemia
  • Sinus Problems
  • Sjögren's Syndrome
  • Skin Problems
  • Sleep Disorders
  • Smoking Cessation
  • Speech & Language Disorders
  • Spinal Cord Disorders
  • Stress
  • Stroke
  • Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)
  • Teen Health
  • Thyroid Disorders
  • TMJ Disorder -TemporoMandibular Joint
  • Tourette Syndrome
  • Transplants
  • Trigeminal Neuralgia
  • Trying to Conceive (TTC)
  • Urology
  • Vaccination & Immunization
  • Vitamins & Supplements
  • Weight Loss
  • Weight Loss / Surgical
  • West Nile Virus
  • Women's Health



  • TOP THANKED CONTRIBUTORS

    Alzheimer's Disease & Dementia

    DGabriel10 (464), Martha H (122), meg1230 (92), ninamarc (82), angel_bear (60), ibake&pray (43), jagsmu (40), Beginning (39), TC08 (35), debbie g (34)

    Site Wide Totals

    thanbey (581), janewhite1 (528), BlueSkies14 (511), SpineAZ (484), DGabriel10 (465), mscat40 (421), tetonteri66 (420), jennybyc (404), sammy64 (391), jgrangran (362)

    All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:26 PM.



    Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.com™
    Copyright and Terms of Use © 1998-2012 HealthBoards.com™ All rights reserved.
    Do not copy or redistribute in any form!


    SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.