How common are brain anuresyms?
I get alot of headaches and sometimes feeling of shooting pain in my head usually the same side.
Although since having my wisdom teeth pulled my headaces have gotten a little better, but I do get the shooting pain occasionally.
I was wondering how common are brain anuresyms are? are they genetic? Can a CT scan detect one? I had a CT scan and all was fine
I dunno what the factors and statistics are for this, but if you are really concerned about other thing it might be you could always have a look at via an MRI and an MRA of the neck and head. MRA looks at your arteries. The best thing to do would be to talk with your Primary care Physician talk to him/her about your concerns and symptoms and see what else you can progress with as far as investigating what it could be. Good luck to you and God bless!
From the last three months of research I have found from what I have read they are very rare for the most part. It seems to be something like 1 in every 10,000 or so. There are various web sites that are out there that are available, and it is best that I leave it at that, go to google and let your mind wander...
I have been diaganosed with ACM1 Arnold Charia Malformation and the odds are 1 in 1,000. Which makes it even more interesting it is 3X more likely that it will happen in women. It is a form of an aneurism in a way, there are different types of aneurisms as well. IT is thought that perhaps it is genetic. As far as ACM1 it begins in the womb while in the embyro stage, such might be the case with all aneurisms, don't take my word for it.
It seems to be a common thing that I have found that happens in both situations. Some studies feel that perhaps it is something that the mother lacks while the baby is at that stage of development.
My mother comes from a family of 13 and many of her sisters and brothers have large families and they have families and so on. I am trying to contact them and find out if this has happened to them. So far I am the only one. Lucky me.. ( LOL ). Another thing about aneurisms they can show up at the teen years, 20'3,30'3, 40's and 50's and so on. I had no idea I had this unitll this spring. I am now 47 years old. There are no real answers that I have found. I spend alot of time on the net and google and find out information on this web site as well as many others that are out there.
I have yet to scratch the surface and if by it is what you think it may be. Please go forward and research, I have found this to be very very interesting reading and research so to speak...
We all deal with things in different ways, this is the way that I deal with my situation.
If you had a ct and it was fine, you probably are Ok. When I had my ct done. they noted a abnormality..(thought it was a tumour ) and suggested a MRI. So had a MRI and clearly showed the aneurysm...Mine ended up being inoperable..I have had mine for 6 years now and I'm in horrible pain..You will know if you have one cause it will send you to the hospital with the worse headache in your life..Hugs and be well, Cindy
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thuderbolt headahe Jan3,01 DX with a inoperable aneurysm. severe headaches everyday for 9 years. SSDI for severe pain R/t inoperable aneurysm pulsating on cranial nerves.
My mother had one, she didn't know it, till it let lose one morning. She survived the surgery, but was never really right after that. She passed 3 yrs later to other issues. The Neurosurgeon told us that we (her children) were 50% more likely to have one also.
I also have a friend that had a problem with her eye, and the Dr finally sent her to have an MRI thinking it was possible onset of MS. They found 3 Aneurysms,
She had 2 separate surgeries a yr apart, and is fine now.
I did have an MRI when I was 18 yrs old and that was fine and now 10 yrs later I had a CT scan and all was fine.
I just worry about all the headaches I have had, mostly on my right side they are not pounding or throbing but feels like squeezing and pinching.
I get them often and sometimes get shooting pains in my head, not sure what else can cause this.
I have been told that usually you are born with anyersym and its like a ticking time bomb.
Both my parents have had MRI's and I believe all was fine. So, I am not sure if genetics plays the bigger role or what?
Sounds like you are having some form of migrain..You need to get a referral to a Neorologist..or a headache specialist..There are kinds of meds out there that will help with the kind of pain that you are talking about. A CT scan would show up something was abnormal and would suggest further testing...I beleive topamax is a good drug for what you have, but you must take or tirate very slowly up ...Because of the side effects it can cause to people. Hugs, Cindy
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thuderbolt headahe Jan3,01 DX with a inoperable aneurysm. severe headaches everyday for 9 years. SSDI for severe pain R/t inoperable aneurysm pulsating on cranial nerves.
How common are brain anuresyms?
I get alot of headaches and sometimes feeling of shooting pain in my head usually the same side.
Although since having my wisdom teeth pulled my headaces have gotten a little better, but I do get the shooting pain occasionally.
I was wondering how common are brain anuresyms are? are they genetic? Can a CT scan detect one? I had a CT scan and all was fine
I'm curious but did you have a Xray performed prior to having your wisdom teeth removed? If not have one performed and ask your Dentist to check for supernemerary teeth on the Xray.
Yes a CT Scan would of definitely detected a aneurysm. Aneurysms are usually symptomatic (no symptoms) and they usually stay this way until the aneurysm blows. So based on this and bearing in mind aneurysms are very very rare, chances are you most definitely haven't got one.
Just an FYI but my aneurysm never even showed up on an MRI,it took an MRA to actually see it because of the location.a CT would really be a poor type of test to actually find an aneurysm,unless it had blown.CTs are really great at seeing new bleeds but they don't look right at the arterial structures where the aneurysms are located.if you really DO want to know with probably the best certainty possible,an angiogram would be by far the best,but right below that would be an MRA.this type of test looks only at the arterial structures within the brain.this was the only pre angio test i had that actually showed mine.having just those arterys show up and nothing else(an MRI shows all soft tissue structures and a CT only whats mostly hard structures,and blood,it picks up actual blood even better than an MRI but only actual bleeds or old bleeds).
given your symptoms,just getting the MRA would really tell you whether or not you are dealing with some sort of a vascular malformation,with pretty good certainty.
whether or not an aneurysm actually will show up depends on many factors.mine was at a bend in the artery along with it being very very close to a junction with another artery.this is why it did not show up real well on the MRI.but they found it with no problem when i was sent for the MRA.an MRA is actually done the same exact way as an MRI,any differences come from the technical side.you don't have to do anything different than you would for an MRI.quick and painless.given your ongoing symptoms,it would be worth just having it done,if for no other reason,to ease your mind.worrying about something like this will make you crazy.if they find it early before rupture,it CAN in most cases be treated.mine was.but only because we found it when it was still rather small,pre rupture.i wish you luck and just do what you feel is the thing you have to in order to make YOU feel better.you just never know what in gods name is inside of your own body til you actually take that in depth look inside it.trust me.
i also had/have a different vascular malformation inside of my spinal cord that has been there since birth but i never knew it til i had to have an MRI done on my c spine to determine the extent of a herniated disc.it was just there,this little glob right in the middle of my spinal cord and i never knew it.but thats a whole nother story.
just get yourself checked out if you feel the need to.afterall,its your body,and you only have one.just be sure.please let us know how things are going,K?good luck,Marcia
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3-22-01,herniated C-6-7
11-20-01,placement of hardware for failed fusion
9-22-03,removal of cavernous hemangioma that was inside spinal cord. Neuro damage to L hand L leg and R leg.
My mother and Grandmother both died from them....They both had berry aneyuresms in the same location on the brain....All of my siblings have had mri's and everyone is fine...I am the only one so far who has yet had one. My older sister and me and my twin all suffer from migrains...Mine has only been the past 3 yrs, I think mine is due to alot of stress...I do believe they can be heridatary and we were all told to have the scan...I have been talking to my doctor and I will have one here with in the next month, just have to wait on the military to approve ....My 7yr old has also suffered from them since she was 18 months old...She has only had a ct scan, but everything was normal....I am waiting to hear if she can get put on a preventive...They say she is to young, but she may be able to try a small dose of blood pressure meds..Have to wait and see...I take 40mg of Relpax and I take 2 feiorociet everyday...Good luck, Ralinda
Hey Ralnda,just wondering here because of the very specific berry type aneurysms?is there any family history of ANY sort of kidney problems like polycystic kidney disease?while the actual aneurysms themselves usually are not an inherited type of disorder,in certain cases with specific types of conditions/diseases,it can create just naturally weaker vessel walls which creates a much higher tendency of having all kinds of vascular malformations pop up.the PKD is just one of them.i was born with one particular type of vascular malformation in my spinal cord that i didn't find out about til i was 40,and then last year,developed another in my brain,it was an aneurysm.but the PKD just makes me at higher risk since for some strange reason,people with PKD are just naturally born with much weaker vessel walls.
you really should do some research into your family history and see if there are any specific types of conditions that show up that could be causing the weaker vessel walls in your family.
from the research i have done on aneurysms it doesn't appear that the actual aneurysm themselves can be an inherited disorder in of itself,but the weaker vessel wall thing can be the underlying cause of the higher risk making it "appear' that way,you know what i mean?i really think there is some sort of actual condition or disorder running thru your family that is creating the much higher risk factors for them to be created.it would be worth it for you and the future generations of your family to do that research and see what may pop up fromthe past.just look for ANY commonalities within various members,espescially the ones who have actually had confirmed aneurysm.you may catch a pattern or trend or something they all have in common.just a suggestion.PKD is just one of other conditions that can create the higher risk and the vessel wall thing.good luck and keep me posted.marcia
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3-22-01,herniated C-6-7
11-20-01,placement of hardware for failed fusion
9-22-03,removal of cavernous hemangioma that was inside spinal cord. Neuro damage to L hand L leg and R leg.
Feelbad, thanks so much for your info .....As for as I know, there is no family history at all of any kidney problems....My mom was real healthy other than the fact of her headaches....I wish the best of luck of you....Ralinda
I have had these type of headaches for the past 10 years, but recently it seems as though its everyday. Sometimes the pain is mild and sometimes more severe. Usually if I lay down or sleep for an hour or more it helps.
Someone suggested Hemicrania Continua, but not sure.
Everyone keeps telling me that if I have had these headaches for the past 10 years and my CT scan came out fine that I shouldnt feel worried.
I am having alot of anxiety and panic latley and am on a beta blocker for my heart rate as well as blood pressure, so not sure if that causes headaches.
ABC,have you had anymore testing done since the beginning of this thread?a CT can show many things but it cannot get down to the actual arterial level of seeing the blood vessels.a negative CT really dosen't mean a whiole lot when it cannot actually visualize many very real structres within the brain.you DO need that MRA and if you have not actually had one yet,an MRI with contrast.this is what should be done first actually.see what if anything shows on that MRI,then move onto the MRA,or these can also be done at the very same time too.thats up to your doc to order.but telling you everything is actually fine when they haven't really thoroughly checked the brain at every level is really just bad diagnostic work,really.you do deserve some answers here.ifyour doc refuses to help you with this,well its time to move onto a good caring doc who will.they ARE out there,you just have to find the right one.but something needs to change here or you will continue to have to suffer and with no answers.thats very very unfair to do to you.for your types of symptoms,a CT is just woefully inadequate.good luck hon and please keep us posted on how you are doing.i really DO feel for ya.Marcia
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3-22-01,herniated C-6-7
11-20-01,placement of hardware for failed fusion
9-22-03,removal of cavernous hemangioma that was inside spinal cord. Neuro damage to L hand L leg and R leg.
Ok, so I went to my primary care doctor today about my headaches. She seemed as though she wanted to brush me off and just give me meds.
I explained to her that I had a CT scan before but I am concerned because my headaches continue and have been more frequent and want further scanning such as MRI/MRA. She told me that if the CT scan came back fine that there isnt much diffference from an MRI. I couldnt believe it! Where the heck did she go for med school? Anyhow I began trying to explain more of my syptoms and why it was of concern and she cut me off and said "ok, I will just refer you to a Neurologist" But it seemed as though it was more just to shut me up and get me out of there, so I was a bit bothered by how cold she seemed but relived that I will be refered to someone that can be more of a help for my headache issue.
I had an aneurysm with virtually no symptoms. Any headaches I had were usually allergy-related. My family has a history of aneurisms on the female side. However a few years ago my nephew suddenly died of one, so we all had MRI's and mine was discovered. I had neurosurgery, but blood left on site so stroke-like effect, which constant physio has improved. MRI's are more definitive , but a different nephew had brain tumor found by CAT scan, too..he had surgery and is fine,,working, married. etc. My daughter's migraines are hormone-based and premenstrual.
Last edited by cdnsnolady; 10-02-2007 at 08:04 AM.
....My 7yr old has also suffered from them since she was 18 months old...She has only had a ct scan, but everything was normal....I am waiting to hear if she can get put on a preventive...They say she is to young, but she may be able to try a small dose of blood pressure meds..Have to wait and see...I take 40mg of Relpax and I take 2 feiorociet everyday...Good luck, Ralinda
