Where are my Remeron gals? I think I read somewhere, ICC, that you felt Remeron stopped working for you after a few weeks. I think I may be in the same boat. After feeling noticeably (although not 100% better) on the Remeron for 3.5 weeks, I suddenly feel as though it has stopped working. Now, I think there may be two things contributing to this poop-out: 1. the anxiety of the holiday (it was my first holiday without a lot of people I love) and 2. the beginning of my menstrual cycle. (I'm more and more convinced that my hormones have something to do with my anxiety/depression problem.) So, my question is, do I just ride this out, do I give up on the Remeron and perhaps try something else, or do I let my doc talk me into upping the dosage to 30mg (I'm currently at 22.5mg)? My doctor told me to call her in four weeks if I didn't feel better on the 22.5mg dose. That will be Monday. If I do stay on the Remeron and go up to 30mg, what are the chances it will poop out again in another 3 weeks? The highest dosage is 40mg, so if it keeps failing, I'll be out of options in a few months and then have a LOT of weaning to do.
I also just wanted to tell you all that I cannot, whatsoever, relate to your chocolate cravings...or any cravings for that matter. I'd still be just as happy skipping meals altogether. After six whole months of feeling absolutely no desire to eat (Thanksgiving was such a struggle), I'm really starting to feel like there's something far more serious going on with me than just anxiety and depression. Miraculously, however, I've not dropped any weight. In fact, I may have gained a few pounds. Since I have no concept of hunger, I just kind of make myself eat as much as I can when I can. For a while, that was causing intense overnight indigestion, but that problem seems to have subsided. In any event, I live in constant terror that I'm dying of a deadly disease and that I will never be myself again. That kind of obsessing obviously doesn't help the anxiety issues. I think very shortly I'm going to be doing round two of major medical testing. It seems to be the only thing that ultimately eases my mind. Of course, this time around they might really find something. Just the idea of that makes me fear going to a doctor at all. This is such a horrible way to live!
anxiousagain---I'm still here. the "remeron" post was closed so i figured we would all find each other eventually. that's haow long the remeron worked for me. 3 1/2 weeks. felt great at first and then all of a sudden all the depression and eating came back at one time. i had no appteitie the first 3 weeks. the dr. did up it to 30 and i hated the way i felt. i couldn't drive for the dizziness and oculdn't put the time in to waiting to see if it stopped so i weaned myself off it. called the dr. and told him i was not depressed anymore but extrememly anxious. he wasnte me tostart takin git again and said we would leave it at 15. made no sense to me since i already tried that and never started it again. don't have it in me to keep trying, stopping, trying stopping. so i'll stick to my klonopin for now and see what happens. am in counseling and that's a help. I think we are all different and have different metabolisms. ihave a healthy appteite to begin with and i feel that's my the remeraon makes me eat more. good luck with all your tests and try not to worry. i get like that. have had 10 MRI's done in 6 mos that all showed a rotted body but worry as i did about the thyroid biopsy it came back clean.
Hey Kathy--I'm here !!!
Sorry the other Remeron thread was closed- probably my fault for getting off topic.
Well I am up to 30 mgm on the Remeron-- it's probably about a month now or close to it. At the weirdest times I am finding myself saying"something is better"- like when I'm driving- I'm more at ease driving, naturally -the way it's suspposed to feel. No big anxiety over left hand turns at traffic lights. Now I'm not tackling expressway type traffic or long distance , but locally I'm not as panicky as I was. I was more tired when I first upped to 30 mgm. but I'm ok with that now-- got by on 6 hours of sleep last night & went straight through today & another late night.
Appetite- still craving & thanksgiving has done me in- this has to stop.
My biggest anxiety now is - how will I ever get off these meds? Like if I forget my Buspar & it's a little late, I notice I start feeliong a little weird- I can't imagine what thw weaning off these meds will be. I fear being right back where I was or worse-- I fear that they will completely stop working.
Kathy-- I'd say why not try upping to 30 mgm ? My p-doc insisted on last visit that 30 mgm was the minimum effective dose-- minimum !
You've tried this much & you really don't know how you will be on the minimum effective dose, right?
And as for the lack of appetite- it still may be due to the anxiety/depression because you are ..you guessed it....not taking the minimum effective dose. I think you should try & give it a few more weeks.
If your appetite doesn't begin to imporve & you are still worried, get an appt with a GI doc- maybe ask about a gastrc emptying study- if it's slow that can make you feel full all of the time.
Since you have not lost weight-- don't let your mind go to scary places. Remember I went down to 103 and was eating at least 2000 calories per day ( forcing) and continuing to lose weight-- now that was scary!!!!! And they found nothing wrong-- my metabolism was just pumped up from anxiety.I am now hitting 115 & now I want to lose 5 pounds- go figure !!!
Glad to fine you again You too ICC- are you doing ok with just the Klonopin? Do you take it on a regular schedule or just as needed ?
I'm just really, really scared at this point. I did lose my appetite once before when I went through severe anxiety, but by this time (six months in) it was starting to come back. Every single day I cry thinking there is something deadly wrong with me. This time around, I'm convinced I have ovarian cancer. I made a big mistake looking up potential causes of lost appetite and found that to be one of them. Then when I read the other symptoms, I was like "Oh my God, I have almost all of them!": loss of appetite, early satiety, nausea, excess gas. The only symptoms I *don't* have are pelvic pain and bloating. Now, this month with my period, I've also had some uncomfortable hip and lower back pain that's just sent my mind reeling with the worst possible scenario. I honestly don't know what to do. Last time, I subjected myself to all kinds of invasive gastrointestinal testing, so I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. While it nearly killed me at the time (when I wasn't worried about going for a test, I was worried sick about the results of the one I'd just had) an all-clear from a GI doc, I believe, was the only thing that ultimately eased my mind. I soooo don't want to go through that again but I don't know how else to get past this. At the very least, I think when I call my doc I need to up the date for my pap and pelvic exams. I had scheduled one for Jan 4, but I can't spend the holidays obsessing about dying. I'm only 36 years old so, assuming I'm not dying, I'm in for a long haul if I don't get past this hypochondria of mine. I don't think all the Remeron in the world is going to fix that, but I don't know what WILL. I tried counseling...my therapist told me she "didn't get my not wanting to eat because the body naturally craves nutrition." Yeah, well, I don't get it either. I just wish I could get over it. If anyone else has managed to overcome severe health anxiety, I'd love to hear how you did it.
I think it's important for you to get your pelvic exam & maybe even a vaginal ultrasound as well as going around again with a GI doc. These things are worrying you so you need to address them- just make those appointments !
I understand what you're saying about all the Remeron in the world isn't going to make this all go away. You know ow I feel about meds- not something I want to be doing at all.
But over the last month something has gotten better & I'm hoping that can happen for you. There's something that keeps me from worrying so obsessively lately & I can only think that it has to be that the Rmeron increase has helped- or the Buspar is kicking in as they say can take a few months with that one.
It's hard to explain-- I know I still get anxious but something says "don't worry about it". Tiongs I was petrified of a month ago seem to be not so bad- even the really frightening things like I might have to have that back surgery. Well-- I hope not, but I'll just do everything I can to avoid it & if it comes to surgery then I'll have to deal with it best I can. I couldn't say that a month ago. So for now, I'm going to stick with the meds even though it goes against my grain.
I hope you can get appointments soon so you can get things checked out. And please talk to your p-doc; I still think there might be some hope with the Remeron. I also figured out that Buspar is giving me more of an appetite than the Remeron-- my hunger cravings kick in exactly an hour after I take the Buspar ( I take 7.5 mgm 4 x day). So that might be something to think about trying also- it does not cause dependency like they say the benzos do & can stopped rather quickly if needed. Something to think about maybe ???
Just hope you feel better soon, no matter what it takes....
hi girls---i sm truly in a confused state. klonopin is helping but it;s not something i want to take regularly. but the remeron i don't get . took it for 3 weeks and got oup one morning just as i was before i started it. you would think going to 30 would be the right move but it made me feel weird. couldn't function. driving was worse since i was dizzy. i'm not sure what to do. dr. wants to me try the remeron again at 15 and keep it there. i don't seee the point after what happended last time. any ideas? HELP he also prescribed deseryl for me for sleep and i 'm not sure if that made me nuts too. i only took taht twice. didn't like how i felt in the morning.
How long were you on the 30 mgm ?
I had been on 22.5 mgm, p-doc upped me to 30 mgm about a month ago. The first week or two I was a little more tired & I did notice break through feelings of anxiety- the really uncomfortable kind. Ny first thgouth was it was pooping out since I've been on Remeron since May-- THEN I remembered when you first go on Remeron or any AD you get increased anxiety until it takes hold at that dose, so I rode it out & am pretty much better ow ( not perfect, but better).
I'm thinking if you were not on the 30 mgm long enough that may have been what was happening??? Just a thought...
anxiousinnj----I was on the 15 mg for a month. the last week of it felt like before i started. took the 30 mg for about 5 days and God did I feel awful. the frist 3 weeks on the 15 had less of an appetite and that was great but the last week I was eating everything not nailed down. then when I started the 30 the eating was even worse and I found I had a hard time driving because i was so dizzy. I am starting the 15 back up tonight since I am re-entering the black whole. dr. told me usually the appetitie thing is more prominent at a low dose. I don't beleive him because it was worse for me at 30. what to do, what to do? being a diabetice (dite controlled) i have maintained a healthy weight until i was injured and then put 27 pounds on really quickly just from steroids (oral and injected) and having a very physical job all of a sudden sitting on my butt didn't help so i really can't afford to eat, eat, eat. Oh my.
ICC, I am in pretty much the same situation as you. I have Klonapin on an as-needed basis, but I refuse to take it due to its dependency potential. Haven't touched it in months and really don't want to. At the low dose I was prescribed it really didn't do much other than help me get some sleep. However, as you can tell from my previous post, my hypochondria is raging, so the Remeron is obviously not really helping me either. I'm curious as to why your doc upped you to 30mg so quickly. Well, actually it's probably because the pills only come in 15, 30 and 45 doses. My doctor tried to get me to go straight to 30 from 15 too. I suggested trying 22.5mg first. Why don't you do the same? I've not felt any dizziness from the drug at that dose. 30 might have just been too big of a jump too quickly for you. If you take an intermediary step for a few weeks, you might find that you can eventually take the 30mg without a problem. I'm not exactly the best one to be giving advice here since I feel like the Remeron has stopped working for me, but I do think I'd be worse without it, which sounds like what you are also discovering. I'm scared to keep upping, I'm scared to come off it, I'm scared to try another drug, but most of all I'm scared I'll never be the same person again.
Anxiousinnj (Kate), I know I should just go ahead and demand some medical testing, but at the same time, I know that that's one of the worst things a hypochondriac can do. I have a new doctor (my old one stopped practicing) who is well aware of my history. The first time I saw her, I told her point blank that the last round of tests nearly killed me and that I didn't think I could handle any right then. She said she wasn't even going to suggest any. She's been good with me, taking things slowly, working me into being able to handle things and not sending me to any specialists (I don't have a pdoc; she's handling my meds after some suggestions from my first counselor). First, it was a complete blood workup, which I'm assuming came back normal since I never heard otherwise. Then it was a recommendation that I get a pap test (since I'd avoided one for years). I wanted to just go with her medical opinion and not subject myself to the terror of awaiting test results, so I'm in a bind. A very BIG part of me doesn't even want to know if there is something seriously wrong with me, because I know that given my current frame of mind, I could never handle it. The stress would definitely kill me before the disease would. I know that for a fact. I went through it once before. Imagine your heart beating twice its normal rate for 2.5 months straight from nonstop sheer terror. Well, that was me just 5 years ago. The results of my 24-hour heart monitor can attest to it. I just am not equipped with any ability whatsoever to handle any kind of medical-related stress.
OMG i am so annoyed right now. did a search on remeron since all of a sudden i started having BP probelms. really bad fluctuations. PCP had to up my BP meds it was so bad. now i find out that remeron should not be taken by those with HBP even if it's regulated. well mine was for almost 3 years until i took rememron. also why would it be prescribed when one of the biggest side effects is sweet cravings and I being a diabetic. now i know i will not take it again. called the pharmacy to be sure I was right and he said if i already had my BP go up while on it that it would be dangerous to take it again. why would any dr. persist in me starting it again after I told him my BP was out of wack? also when i checked drug interactions there was a red flag and severe interaction warning between remeron and my BP meds. Oh my God I am not anxious and depressed enough without this going on. have to check everything yourself anymore. thanks for listening.
Hmm, that doesn't sound good! Should the pharmacy have picked up the drug interation? My blood pressure was good last time I was in to see the doc: 118/70 I think so I don't think I have to worry about that, but you'd think your doctor would have known the two didn't go together. I'm waiting for a call back from my own PCP right now in regards to what to do about the "poop out" I'm experiencing. Will post and update soon.
anxiousagain----- that's the first thing the pharmacist said. "how did it get out of here?" he was really annoyed and said when dr.s prescribe interacting drugs like that they always call the dr. before filling it. the dr. called it in right in front of me and i picked it up a half hour later. neither of the pharmacists i know were in and i believe the girl who was just didn't pick up on it. ouldn't imaging why after years of being on clonidine for my BP and having it stable at around 120/70 i was having these spikes. 178/90. so now i take 2 BP meds a day instead of one and it has caused me alot of grief. haven't been to physical therapy in 3 weeks due to the raise in BP they won'd let me do anything. I have had it. my PCP didn't prescribe it but a phsychiatrist did. amazing isn't it? i will not take anything again that my PCP hasn't prescribed since he knows how med sensitive I am. I remember when i told him what was prescribed he was surprised. I give up.
Just a quick update, so you don't all wonder where I disappeared to. My doc called me back last night and we talked. She wants me to try 30mg of Remeron for 10 days while I wait for a moved-up appointment with her. (Anxiousinnj, when I mentioned my slight concern about constipation, she told me she doesn't think that should be an issue with this drug.) Anyway, she wants me to come in sooner than my Jan. 4 appointment so we can address my anorexia and anxiety. I don't know exactly how she plans to do that, but I feel better knowing that I can bring up my concerns with her before the holidays. I'm going to make a list of every single thing that's been bothering me before I go. Now, I think it's time for me to take another break from these boards as they only add to my hypochondria. I will try to pop in from time to see how the rest of you are faring. Be well and may we all get our most-wished-for holiday gift: a 2007 free from anxiety.
anxiousagain-----my prayers are with you. I have to agree about the boards sometimes making matters worse. I find that I could be alright and sometimes when i read that others aren't it makes me start thinking and worrying needlessly.
I'm so upset & angry for you. MY p-doc is a fanatic about getting all my history & records from my other docs. She specifi8cally asked me about any hypertension before she prescribed the Remeron. It's the only reqasn I go back to her-- I really don't like her at all, but the lady knows her meds , side effects and interactions.
My BP has actually been lower since I've been on these meds which makes me think my occasional spike of BP may be anxiety related.
As I just typed that it made me wonder could that be what's happening to you ? Is anxiety over the meds & them not working causing your BP to spike?
Might be a factor...remember you've got a lot of other things bogging you down now too- I won't get into details as they may shut the thread down again. If for no other reason thought, I don't think you should be on Remeron being a diabetic- there should be strong warnings about that.
I hope you can find a medication that works .......that magic pill, where the heck is it ?
Anxiousagain, if you come back-- I think it's a good thing for you to try the 30 mgm, but don't judge it completely in just 10 days...may take another week or so to see really how you will feel. And it's true that Remeron's side effects are supposed to be less at higher doses-- my p-doc explained that to me, but, the constipation.......I disagree....again my p-doc said this is a big problem with Remeron, but usally can be manged with increased fiber. I'm doing ok with the fiber supplements, but God forbid I should forget to take them....I would highly recommend you take some of the over the counter type starting with the first day you start the 30 mgm.
I'm glad you're getting in to see your doc sooner rather than later-- make your list so you don't forget anything. Don't forget to take the Klonopin if you need it during those first 10 days or so.