Merrida
01-22-2003, 01:00 PM
I "think" this is related to my jaw, only because I can't figure out what else it could be,...but when I'm in that twilight state of half sleep but am dreaming,....yet aware of my surroundings,...I can work this into my dream where I feel like... Well you know when you chatter from the cold, and you tense your body up and if you were to chatter VERY hard to the point where your teeth are seriously chattering together and you get the sensation of your skull vibrating.
That's what I get. If I "stay asleep" it gets worse and worse, and I can concentrate on it, and feel it getting so bad that it feels like electricity running through my brain, and then I'm forced to wake up.
I've tried to ignore it and/or sleep through it figuring it's probably nothing serious, just from me doing more jaw clenching... it isn't the same as when I grind (because grinding is more rhythmic, and this is more constant), this is more like a non-stop buzz feeling and it intensifies progressively second by second if I don't wake up.
It's happened about a half dozen times so far, and it's so irritating as well as scary. Sure, wake up and it's gone, but what the heck IS this darn thing? I just woke up from one now, after a nap, and in my dream this buzz because severe head pain and chest pain, sincerely replicating a migraine <<in my dream>> in that "getting worse as the seconds go by" kind of thing. Wake up , and it's not there,.... like it really WAS the dream, except that when it happens, there's no word to describe accurately the degree of pain.
Has anyone ever had this happen to them?
That's what I get. If I "stay asleep" it gets worse and worse, and I can concentrate on it, and feel it getting so bad that it feels like electricity running through my brain, and then I'm forced to wake up.
I've tried to ignore it and/or sleep through it figuring it's probably nothing serious, just from me doing more jaw clenching... it isn't the same as when I grind (because grinding is more rhythmic, and this is more constant), this is more like a non-stop buzz feeling and it intensifies progressively second by second if I don't wake up.
It's happened about a half dozen times so far, and it's so irritating as well as scary. Sure, wake up and it's gone, but what the heck IS this darn thing? I just woke up from one now, after a nap, and in my dream this buzz because severe head pain and chest pain, sincerely replicating a migraine <<in my dream>> in that "getting worse as the seconds go by" kind of thing. Wake up , and it's not there,.... like it really WAS the dream, except that when it happens, there's no word to describe accurately the degree of pain.
Has anyone ever had this happen to them?
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Merrida
01-22-2003, 08:49 PM
Hmm...
No one else has experienced this? I was hoping it was somewhat related. Not that *that* would have made it any better...
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No one else has experienced this? I was hoping it was somewhat related. Not that *that* would have made it any better...
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Anonymity
01-28-2003, 03:27 PM
I have experience this many times, but it is (as far as I know) related to my Restless Legs Syndrome and the medicines I have taken to control RLS. Try searching the RLS and sleep disorder boards. I believe there are some posts related to this on the Fibromyalgia board as well, and I think I've noticed your presence on that board before. If you would like more specifics from me, just ask. :)
GenDen
01-28-2003, 04:54 PM
I can relate to this. In my case, I think it is muscle tension. We think the muscles relax during sleep, but they work all night. I find I am stiffer in the morning than when I went to bed. I don't know the answer. I find help if I meditate and do gentle massage of my head, jaw and neck muscles before I go to sleep.
Cymy Sue
01-29-2003, 06:12 AM
Merrida,
I've had a similiar "weird" sensation occasionally for about the last 10 years. It's never at night. It's always if I take a nap during the day. (I think I don't get into a deep sleep.) It's always as I'm waking up, and I get these weird electrical "zaps".
I've done some research on it and can only find that people who take anti-depressants,(the SSRI's) or try to come off of them, experience "Brain Zaps". I never knew exactly how to explain it, but one person said it was like a Bug Zapper. I've never taken anti-depressants, so that would not be the cause of mine.
I've had all kinds of neurological tests due to the nerve damage I have, and then some more when I developed Tinnitus. So I don't worry about it being anything serious anymore.
I think GenDen is right about it being stress and tension related. I also think some of mine is due to the Trigeminal nerve damage I have. It's a very real noise (in your head) and a strange sensation, I've never experienced pain with it. You might want to mention it to your DR.
As I said, I've had them infrequently for 10 years and they actually are not as bad now as they were when they first started. And they don't seem to be causing any other problems.
As I sit and type this, I realize that just over 10 years ago, I had my first arthroplasty, and my first experience with Trig. nerve pain. That probably explains mine.
If you rule out everything else, it's probably muscles and nerves colliding in some strange way that no one truly understands, (as with most cases of idiopathic Tinntitus.) Your ears roar and scream , but nobody knows why.
I would have this checked out if you're not taking a medication that might cause it or if you do not have some kind of nerve damage that you're aware of.
Cymy Sue
I've had a similiar "weird" sensation occasionally for about the last 10 years. It's never at night. It's always if I take a nap during the day. (I think I don't get into a deep sleep.) It's always as I'm waking up, and I get these weird electrical "zaps".
I've done some research on it and can only find that people who take anti-depressants,(the SSRI's) or try to come off of them, experience "Brain Zaps". I never knew exactly how to explain it, but one person said it was like a Bug Zapper. I've never taken anti-depressants, so that would not be the cause of mine.
I've had all kinds of neurological tests due to the nerve damage I have, and then some more when I developed Tinnitus. So I don't worry about it being anything serious anymore.
I think GenDen is right about it being stress and tension related. I also think some of mine is due to the Trigeminal nerve damage I have. It's a very real noise (in your head) and a strange sensation, I've never experienced pain with it. You might want to mention it to your DR.
As I said, I've had them infrequently for 10 years and they actually are not as bad now as they were when they first started. And they don't seem to be causing any other problems.
As I sit and type this, I realize that just over 10 years ago, I had my first arthroplasty, and my first experience with Trig. nerve pain. That probably explains mine.
If you rule out everything else, it's probably muscles and nerves colliding in some strange way that no one truly understands, (as with most cases of idiopathic Tinntitus.) Your ears roar and scream , but nobody knows why.
I would have this checked out if you're not taking a medication that might cause it or if you do not have some kind of nerve damage that you're aware of.
Cymy Sue
Al4
02-01-2003, 12:55 AM
I also get these electrical jolts in my neck and sides of my head after I take a nap. However, they are not frequent. I have also noticed that my tinnitus is worse in the morning when waking up from sleep. I do not know if all of this is related to any jaw or joint problems.
Al
Al
chrissiek
02-04-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Merrida:
I "think" this is related to my jaw, only because I can't figure out what else it could be,...but when I'm in that twilight state of half sleep but am dreaming,....yet aware of my surroundings,...I can work this into my dream where I feel like... Well you know when you chatter from the cold, and you tense your body up and if you were to chatter VERY hard to the point where your teeth are seriously chattering together and you get the sensation of your skull vibrating.
That's what I get. If I "stay asleep" it gets worse and worse, and I can concentrate on it, and feel it getting so bad that it feels like electricity running through my brain, and then I'm forced to wake up.
I've tried to ignore it and/or sleep through it figuring it's probably nothing serious, just from me doing more jaw clenching... it isn't the same as when I grind (because grinding is more rhythmic, and this is more constant), this is more like a non-stop buzz feeling and it intensifies progressively second by second if I don't wake up.
It's happened about a half dozen times so far, and it's so irritating as well as scary. Sure, wake up and it's gone, but what the heck IS this darn thing? I just woke up from one now, after a nap, and in my dream this buzz because severe head pain and chest pain, sincerely replicating a migraine <<in my dream>> in that "getting worse as the seconds go by" kind of thing. Wake up , and it's not there,.... like it really WAS the dream, except that when it happens, there's no word to describe accurately the degree of pain.
Has anyone ever had this happen to them?
Why does that sound like some sort of Sleep Paralysis?
I "think" this is related to my jaw, only because I can't figure out what else it could be,...but when I'm in that twilight state of half sleep but am dreaming,....yet aware of my surroundings,...I can work this into my dream where I feel like... Well you know when you chatter from the cold, and you tense your body up and if you were to chatter VERY hard to the point where your teeth are seriously chattering together and you get the sensation of your skull vibrating.
That's what I get. If I "stay asleep" it gets worse and worse, and I can concentrate on it, and feel it getting so bad that it feels like electricity running through my brain, and then I'm forced to wake up.
I've tried to ignore it and/or sleep through it figuring it's probably nothing serious, just from me doing more jaw clenching... it isn't the same as when I grind (because grinding is more rhythmic, and this is more constant), this is more like a non-stop buzz feeling and it intensifies progressively second by second if I don't wake up.
It's happened about a half dozen times so far, and it's so irritating as well as scary. Sure, wake up and it's gone, but what the heck IS this darn thing? I just woke up from one now, after a nap, and in my dream this buzz because severe head pain and chest pain, sincerely replicating a migraine <<in my dream>> in that "getting worse as the seconds go by" kind of thing. Wake up , and it's not there,.... like it really WAS the dream, except that when it happens, there's no word to describe accurately the degree of pain.
Has anyone ever had this happen to them?
Why does that sound like some sort of Sleep Paralysis?
paintitbetter
02-05-2003, 12:23 AM
Chrissiek,
Sorry if this is off topic, but I noticed that you are from Buffalo. Do you happen to workout at the steelmill gym? Just a hunch. If this who I think it is, how you been doing?
Mark
Sorry if this is off topic, but I noticed that you are from Buffalo. Do you happen to workout at the steelmill gym? Just a hunch. If this who I think it is, how you been doing?
Mark
liszt1823
11-17-2003, 06:34 PM
I'm 40 years old. I started getting the electrical buzzing in my head when I was around 20 years old. It was terrible through my 20's. For me, the buzzing started at the base of my skull (at the top of the back of my neck). It would then "Jolt" me for about 1/4 of a second. This would very often occur just as I was about to fall asleep. If I fell asleep, the jolting would seem to last forever. It would feel like my brain was turning around inside my head. In my dreams, I would be screeming and grapping my head and also falling down and feeling like I was fainting. It was horrible.
I've had MRIs done on several occasions and thankfully nothing appeared to be wrong. I even had two EEGs (one of them a sleeping EEG). Unfortunately, the two times that I had the EEGs, the buzzing did not occur. I thought for sure that the EEG would capture the electrical jolt if it were to occur.
Oh, one other thing occurred to me ... a catalyst to the buzzing as I drift off to sleep is noise ... quiet noise. For example, if I am about to fall asleep and the baseboard heater makes a noise, I get a buzz. If the floor makes a creek, I get a buzz. However, the buzzing will also occur without these types of sounds.
Throughout my 30's I still got the buzzing, but it wasn't as often. Now that I'm 40, it's pretty much the same as throughout my 30's.
Things that have worked for me are to massage the base of my skull and my entire skull. Also, I stretch my head side to side (it will sometimes crack my neck). The stretch is look left, then look right. If I get a small crack in my neck, I usually don't get the buzzing. My wife would sometimes massage my head on really bad nights. We called the massage "a spider massage" because she would take all of her fingers and really massage the scalp at once.
Other than that I don't know what else to add. I do not take any medications. If you want to discuss this further, I would be most happy to talk to you.
I've had MRIs done on several occasions and thankfully nothing appeared to be wrong. I even had two EEGs (one of them a sleeping EEG). Unfortunately, the two times that I had the EEGs, the buzzing did not occur. I thought for sure that the EEG would capture the electrical jolt if it were to occur.
Oh, one other thing occurred to me ... a catalyst to the buzzing as I drift off to sleep is noise ... quiet noise. For example, if I am about to fall asleep and the baseboard heater makes a noise, I get a buzz. If the floor makes a creek, I get a buzz. However, the buzzing will also occur without these types of sounds.
Throughout my 30's I still got the buzzing, but it wasn't as often. Now that I'm 40, it's pretty much the same as throughout my 30's.
Things that have worked for me are to massage the base of my skull and my entire skull. Also, I stretch my head side to side (it will sometimes crack my neck). The stretch is look left, then look right. If I get a small crack in my neck, I usually don't get the buzzing. My wife would sometimes massage my head on really bad nights. We called the massage "a spider massage" because she would take all of her fingers and really massage the scalp at once.
Other than that I don't know what else to add. I do not take any medications. If you want to discuss this further, I would be most happy to talk to you.