SCarpenter333
04-22-2003, 10:17 PM
Hi everyone,
Ok, can anyone explain this to me, and it's something I've been wondering for a long time now.
I have an overbite, and a crossbite. In order to fix my TMJD they need to bring my jaw out. BUT if they do that, then my front teeth will touch, but the back ones wont. My TMJD doc I was going to said that the teeth "errupt" if I spelled that right. Meaning once a person stops clentching and pushing them down and they have a chance then they will come out of the gum more and then in time they will touch. I don't buy that. So, IF a doc were to pull my jaw forward and have my front teeth touch, how will he get my back ones to touch? I will never have any grinding power with no teeth touching but the front two. This just does not make sense to me! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
Please help me to understand. Thanks!!! I know you all will know the answer to that one.
Hugs,
Shelly
Ok, can anyone explain this to me, and it's something I've been wondering for a long time now.
I have an overbite, and a crossbite. In order to fix my TMJD they need to bring my jaw out. BUT if they do that, then my front teeth will touch, but the back ones wont. My TMJD doc I was going to said that the teeth "errupt" if I spelled that right. Meaning once a person stops clentching and pushing them down and they have a chance then they will come out of the gum more and then in time they will touch. I don't buy that. So, IF a doc were to pull my jaw forward and have my front teeth touch, how will he get my back ones to touch? I will never have any grinding power with no teeth touching but the front two. This just does not make sense to me! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
Please help me to understand. Thanks!!! I know you all will know the answer to that one.
Hugs,
Shelly
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GenDen
04-22-2003, 10:41 PM
What he does to get the back teeth to "erupt" or grow longer and touch is alter the splint in such a way that the back teeth never touch. Then because they are naturally searching for a partner to bite against, they lengthen. There are sites on the internet that explain this. By the way, my dentist told me that people with an overbite and a crossbite are the most likely to have TMJ problems.
RobynRose
04-22-2003, 11:24 PM
Here is what I'm wondering...
if the goals of eliminating the crossbite and/or overbite (I have both as well) are obtained --- does this ensure that the tmj issues will resolve?
This is such an important question. I know that Marlene has told of her experience with just this, and it does seemed to have worked a miriacle for her. Is this nearly always the case??
I think I remember that Burt Renyolds had tmj problems and ended up rebuilding his entire bite through dental work. Did this do the trick for him?
Thanks for any input on these question!!
Robyn
By the way, I am considering a consult with a tmj expert who has an extensive website outlining this type of "correcting the bite" treatment (Dr. Barry Cooper). If anyone does a search under his name and tmj (google) - -- and has an opinion about his methods -- I'd be forever grateful! :) Robyn
if the goals of eliminating the crossbite and/or overbite (I have both as well) are obtained --- does this ensure that the tmj issues will resolve?
This is such an important question. I know that Marlene has told of her experience with just this, and it does seemed to have worked a miriacle for her. Is this nearly always the case??
I think I remember that Burt Renyolds had tmj problems and ended up rebuilding his entire bite through dental work. Did this do the trick for him?
Thanks for any input on these question!!
Robyn
By the way, I am considering a consult with a tmj expert who has an extensive website outlining this type of "correcting the bite" treatment (Dr. Barry Cooper). If anyone does a search under his name and tmj (google) - -- and has an opinion about his methods -- I'd be forever grateful! :) Robyn
CherylLynn24
04-23-2003, 12:52 AM
Hey,
Speaking of Burt Reynolds-just watched Smokey and the bandit last night! He did have his whole bite rebalanced. At the time, he said that he went through over a dozen dentists to treat this, then finally found the right one who was willing to work with him 24/7. Unfortunately, we all don't have his kind of $$$. From what I've read of him, he seems to be fine today.
Cheryl
Speaking of Burt Reynolds-just watched Smokey and the bandit last night! He did have his whole bite rebalanced. At the time, he said that he went through over a dozen dentists to treat this, then finally found the right one who was willing to work with him 24/7. Unfortunately, we all don't have his kind of $$$. From what I've read of him, he seems to be fine today.
Cheryl
SCarpenter333
04-23-2003, 01:09 AM
Yea, if I had his kind of money, I could rebulid my whole body if I wanted to. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/blob_fire.gif
Shelly
Shelly
CherylLynn24
04-23-2003, 01:24 AM
Yea, you and me both!!!!!!!!! :bouncing:
Cheryl
Cheryl
RobynRose
04-23-2003, 08:42 AM
Sounds good to me too... but did Burt Renyolds do this bite repostioning to relieve pain from the tmj?? I think Tom Cruise is also doing something similar. But obviously this isn't the answer for everyone -- right?
Robyn
Robyn
totallyconfused
04-23-2003, 09:11 AM
edited post
SCarpenter333
04-23-2003, 11:04 PM
I have read several people here refer to their bites as Class I and II etc. What does that mean?
Shelly
Shelly
RobynRose
04-23-2003, 11:08 PM
Thanks for your reply Cathleen. I really appreciate.
Yes... I am intrigued by Dr. Cooper's credentials. If you looked at his site, I'm sure you saw that he has even cosulted with the National Institute of Health...and has numerous research that has been published in many scientific/medical journals. Seems his orientation is related to the bite...though I sense he also has a neuromuscular orientation.
I would imagine that if you have a perfect bite - then there has to be many other "players" in what makes tmj tick. I myself have other muscle/skeletal problems - and suspect this may just be my jaw getting in on the action. Do you feel that your tmj is about muscles spasming and stressing out the joint? Do you have the sense that the discs are displacing (clunking - or cracking)??
I hope that this referral Dr. Cooper provided you turns out to be valuable. It appears that a dentist who treats only tmj is about the best place to start - given that there isn't a formal subspecialization for this horrendous condition!!
Please keep in touch!
:) Robyn
Yes... I am intrigued by Dr. Cooper's credentials. If you looked at his site, I'm sure you saw that he has even cosulted with the National Institute of Health...and has numerous research that has been published in many scientific/medical journals. Seems his orientation is related to the bite...though I sense he also has a neuromuscular orientation.
I would imagine that if you have a perfect bite - then there has to be many other "players" in what makes tmj tick. I myself have other muscle/skeletal problems - and suspect this may just be my jaw getting in on the action. Do you feel that your tmj is about muscles spasming and stressing out the joint? Do you have the sense that the discs are displacing (clunking - or cracking)??
I hope that this referral Dr. Cooper provided you turns out to be valuable. It appears that a dentist who treats only tmj is about the best place to start - given that there isn't a formal subspecialization for this horrendous condition!!
Please keep in touch!
:) Robyn
totallyconfused
04-23-2003, 11:54 PM
Edited post.
SCarpenter333
04-24-2003, 10:12 PM
Thanks Cathleen, I will do a search if I don't see it on here. :)
Take care
Shelly
Take care
Shelly
Marlene
04-26-2003, 01:59 AM
Shelly,
There are 3 different classifications of malocclusion ("bad bite"):
Class I - occurs when the jaws line up correctly. However, orthodontics may still be necessary if the teeth are crowded, crooked, or too far apart.
Class II - is when the lower jaw is too far back in relationship to the upper jaw.
Class III - is when the lower jaw protrudes beyond the upper jaw.
Marlene
There are 3 different classifications of malocclusion ("bad bite"):
Class I - occurs when the jaws line up correctly. However, orthodontics may still be necessary if the teeth are crowded, crooked, or too far apart.
Class II - is when the lower jaw is too far back in relationship to the upper jaw.
Class III - is when the lower jaw protrudes beyond the upper jaw.
Marlene