N2golf
05-20-2003, 11:13 PM
Does anyone w/TMJ ever experience tenderness in the lymph nodes/gland right under the jaw line on one side? Just curious.
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GenDen
05-20-2003, 11:38 PM
It is possible. Check to make sure it is not an infected tooth though.
SueSt
05-21-2003, 12:59 AM
I have had tenderness there as you mentioned. The massage therapist will also work the muscles in that location - it has helped. Hope you find some relief!
SueSt
SueSt
TiffanyAnn
05-21-2003, 01:11 AM
Hi:
I have problems with that gland all the time. It gets swollen and hurts for awhile then goes away and returns later.
Tiffany
I have problems with that gland all the time. It gets swollen and hurts for awhile then goes away and returns later.
Tiffany
N2golf
05-21-2003, 01:25 AM
Tiffany,
Did you ever find out why you hurt off and on with that?
Did you ever find out why you hurt off and on with that?
cathyk
05-21-2003, 08:34 PM
N2golf - I have experienced the lymph node pain on both sides under the jaw, as well as in back of the head behind/above the ears, and in a couple of spots in the frontal chin. I asked my doc about these as I thought they were trigger points, but they weren't helped with my acumed tens unit when I zapped them. He said they were stagnant lymph glands - the major causes being stress, junk in the diet, toxins or infection. Sometimes they get enlarged/sore from a cold and when the body cleans out they do too so the pain disappears. They hurt like heck don't they?
What happens is when the lymph system gets blocked up it breeds viruses, bacteria, holds toxins, etc., and this accumulation leads to pain, lumps and swelling.
Some lymph nodes are pinhead size (you can feel these sometimes right at the gumline in the mouth) and some are as big as an almond. Lots of folks with TMJ experience the many lymph nodes located in the head and neck when they get enlarged.
I am dealing with a jaw bone infection right now and my body is having a tough time with the lymph glands opening up in my face, neck and upper shoulder. This is preventing the infection from draining as it should so it's painful. I am going this Friday to have an endermologie session done (folks with cellulite have this done I guess - I haven't heard of it until recently). What it will do is open up the swollen lymph and drain so I can sweat (which I don't do much now) and remove the bacteria and toxins - it's a very effective detox and part of a wellness program I'm doing. I'm told I'll be really weak for about 3 days afterward as it drains from my body.
Hope this helps.....cathyk
[This message has been edited by cathyk (edited 05-21-2003).]
What happens is when the lymph system gets blocked up it breeds viruses, bacteria, holds toxins, etc., and this accumulation leads to pain, lumps and swelling.
Some lymph nodes are pinhead size (you can feel these sometimes right at the gumline in the mouth) and some are as big as an almond. Lots of folks with TMJ experience the many lymph nodes located in the head and neck when they get enlarged.
I am dealing with a jaw bone infection right now and my body is having a tough time with the lymph glands opening up in my face, neck and upper shoulder. This is preventing the infection from draining as it should so it's painful. I am going this Friday to have an endermologie session done (folks with cellulite have this done I guess - I haven't heard of it until recently). What it will do is open up the swollen lymph and drain so I can sweat (which I don't do much now) and remove the bacteria and toxins - it's a very effective detox and part of a wellness program I'm doing. I'm told I'll be really weak for about 3 days afterward as it drains from my body.
Hope this helps.....cathyk
[This message has been edited by cathyk (edited 05-21-2003).]
totallyconfused
05-21-2003, 09:20 PM
Cathyk,
Good luck with the endermologie. I am sorry to hear about your bone infection. I hope this helps. Let us know how it went when you feel better.
[This message has been edited by totallyconfused (edited 10-28-2003).]
Good luck with the endermologie. I am sorry to hear about your bone infection. I hope this helps. Let us know how it went when you feel better.
[This message has been edited by totallyconfused (edited 10-28-2003).]
N2golf
05-21-2003, 09:59 PM
How did you get a bone infection and how did they diagnose it?
cathyk
05-22-2003, 10:57 AM
Cathleen - thanks for the good words - from what I'm told it will only help. I've talked with a couple of folks who've had great success with this so I'm staying positive.
N2golf - The jury is still out on where I got it - we're not even sure if the infection is the initial problem or if it's bone cavitations in the jaw driving it - we only know there is lack of blood flow to the left side of my body which is causing teeth to die from underyling dead bone. Right now we're doing antibiotics and cleaning out the dead bone. I've met some great people on the internet who are also dealing with this and weighing my options as to what the next step is.
It was diagnosed from a bone scan and tissue biopsies that were done in the maxilla area from an extracted tooth. Nothing showed up on x-rays at all - no cracks, nothing. No symptoms except painful teeth. And my teeth and gums look great above the gum line.
The good news is it has not affected the TMJ/condoyles so progress in this area remains very good.
I'll beat this just like I've beat everything else - LOL!!! When I look back to 5 years ago it's like night and day so I can only move forward.
I feel really bad for those on this board who have to deal with really bad docs who play the game of "let's see if this will work", followed by "sorry there's nothing more I can do" - if they really don't have the experience and don't know then they have no business touching a TMJ patient.
I am incredibly blessed with a team of folks who work together - MD, TMJ/dentist, chiro - and treat the whole body in unison - not just one part of the body.
cathyk
N2golf - The jury is still out on where I got it - we're not even sure if the infection is the initial problem or if it's bone cavitations in the jaw driving it - we only know there is lack of blood flow to the left side of my body which is causing teeth to die from underyling dead bone. Right now we're doing antibiotics and cleaning out the dead bone. I've met some great people on the internet who are also dealing with this and weighing my options as to what the next step is.
It was diagnosed from a bone scan and tissue biopsies that were done in the maxilla area from an extracted tooth. Nothing showed up on x-rays at all - no cracks, nothing. No symptoms except painful teeth. And my teeth and gums look great above the gum line.
The good news is it has not affected the TMJ/condoyles so progress in this area remains very good.
I'll beat this just like I've beat everything else - LOL!!! When I look back to 5 years ago it's like night and day so I can only move forward.
I feel really bad for those on this board who have to deal with really bad docs who play the game of "let's see if this will work", followed by "sorry there's nothing more I can do" - if they really don't have the experience and don't know then they have no business touching a TMJ patient.
I am incredibly blessed with a team of folks who work together - MD, TMJ/dentist, chiro - and treat the whole body in unison - not just one part of the body.
cathyk
N2golf
05-22-2003, 02:42 PM
Cathy,
You are soooo lucky to be blessed with good medical care. I have had such bad experiences with a few of them, that I am at the point that I just don't trust Dr.s anymore. Dr.s that don't have a clue about TMJ tend to put you on meds for something else when in reality, the wrong thing is being treated. I know that medicine isn't a black and white thing, but, I sure wish it were. I feel like someone guinna pig when I go into a Dr.s office because I don't think I have ever been told that I have a specific problem (excluding GYN's office). That's sad.
Glad you have a team that works together!!!
You are soooo lucky to be blessed with good medical care. I have had such bad experiences with a few of them, that I am at the point that I just don't trust Dr.s anymore. Dr.s that don't have a clue about TMJ tend to put you on meds for something else when in reality, the wrong thing is being treated. I know that medicine isn't a black and white thing, but, I sure wish it were. I feel like someone guinna pig when I go into a Dr.s office because I don't think I have ever been told that I have a specific problem (excluding GYN's office). That's sad.
Glad you have a team that works together!!!