Sapphie
01-05-2001, 11:35 PM
Ok, so I don't wake up nearly as early as I do when I work, on my days off. I get up at 5:45am on workdays, and start my 3 times a day vitamin routine at about 8:00am, after breakfast. I get up about 1pm on my days off, and start my 3 times a day vitamin routine at about 2pm! Is this ok that I am taking them at different times on different days? I try to take my vitamins with a meal, but sometimes I end up skipping a meal because I'm so busy. Any suggestions? By the way, I take a multi twice a day, pantothenic acid 3 times a day, msm 3 times a day, e once a day, st john's wort 3 times a day, and c once a day.
Thanks!!!!
-Sapphie
Thanks!!!!
-Sapphie
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TrickyDick
01-06-2001, 01:03 AM
Hey Sapphie,
Gosh its nice to be noticed and have your handle posted. (please don't do that anymore).
You sound like your in charge..but you may be wasting a little money there. I'm all for vits and some mineral supps but my thoughts are that one good multi vit and one good multi mineral are good. B Complex is good and Zinc is good. C -thats fine. I took amino acids supps for a while and still do once in a while. You did'nt mention my pet peeves so I will.
Drink lots and lots of water...RO if you can afford it. Most RO machines here cost a quarter a gallon.
It sounds like your getting enough rest, you should, its very important.
The food thing is important too. In small ammounts, you can eat more than 3 meals a day just as long as you don't eat late in the evening.
My thoughts on food are lean red meat, fish, lean pork, chicken(no skin) not fried.
Lots of veggies, (I don't eat enough).
Fresh fruit and natural fruit juices, I like to take a juicer and make my own combinations.
No bread, except maybe wheat for toast in the am with your eggs and ham (if you can find it, which I can't lean bacon)
If you have to use oil to cook use canola oil. Butter in ok in very small ammounts.
Lots of peppers, hot and otherwise. Moderate on salt.
Stay away from (or eat VERY little) beans,pasta,pototoes. In other words starches.
No extra sugers, too much in prepared food anyway.
Get your exercise daily, I don't know what type work you do but everyone can benifit from walking. It also gets you outside where everyone needs to spend more time.
Light weight work and treadmill if your a homebody will help.
Gosh I guess thats more than you wanted, rambling is my speciality.
Peace
[This message has been edited by TrickyDick (edited 01-06-2001).]
Gosh its nice to be noticed and have your handle posted. (please don't do that anymore).
You sound like your in charge..but you may be wasting a little money there. I'm all for vits and some mineral supps but my thoughts are that one good multi vit and one good multi mineral are good. B Complex is good and Zinc is good. C -thats fine. I took amino acids supps for a while and still do once in a while. You did'nt mention my pet peeves so I will.
Drink lots and lots of water...RO if you can afford it. Most RO machines here cost a quarter a gallon.
It sounds like your getting enough rest, you should, its very important.
The food thing is important too. In small ammounts, you can eat more than 3 meals a day just as long as you don't eat late in the evening.
My thoughts on food are lean red meat, fish, lean pork, chicken(no skin) not fried.
Lots of veggies, (I don't eat enough).
Fresh fruit and natural fruit juices, I like to take a juicer and make my own combinations.
No bread, except maybe wheat for toast in the am with your eggs and ham (if you can find it, which I can't lean bacon)
If you have to use oil to cook use canola oil. Butter in ok in very small ammounts.
Lots of peppers, hot and otherwise. Moderate on salt.
Stay away from (or eat VERY little) beans,pasta,pototoes. In other words starches.
No extra sugers, too much in prepared food anyway.
Get your exercise daily, I don't know what type work you do but everyone can benifit from walking. It also gets you outside where everyone needs to spend more time.
Light weight work and treadmill if your a homebody will help.
Gosh I guess thats more than you wanted, rambling is my speciality.
Peace
[This message has been edited by TrickyDick (edited 01-06-2001).]
Sapphie
01-06-2001, 07:13 PM
Gee! Sorry to mention your handle! You just seem like somebody who knows what they are talking about. I wouldn't have if I thought that was something that would bother you. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/redface.gif
The reason I take B5 is that I have been discussing with the acne message board how this seems to help with oil reduction, and the all over clearing up of acne (there was an actual study done about this). MSM, because I have read that that may also help in the clearing up of acne (worth a shot, eh?). St. John's Worth....again...worth a shot, I suppose. I have been recently trying to take all that other good advice to heart, as I think it is about that time (or overdue!) to take preventative measures to keep myself from becomming an inactive mess of a person. So, in short, thank you for your advice! :)
Take care,
-Sapphie
The reason I take B5 is that I have been discussing with the acne message board how this seems to help with oil reduction, and the all over clearing up of acne (there was an actual study done about this). MSM, because I have read that that may also help in the clearing up of acne (worth a shot, eh?). St. John's Worth....again...worth a shot, I suppose. I have been recently trying to take all that other good advice to heart, as I think it is about that time (or overdue!) to take preventative measures to keep myself from becomming an inactive mess of a person. So, in short, thank you for your advice! :)
Take care,
-Sapphie
TrickyDick
01-07-2001, 03:57 AM
Hey Sapphie,
Naw, its just a little embaressing to me I guess.. don't worry about it.
You have a good game plan, now the only problem is..is to stick to it.
Thats the hardest part, it took me several years to make the lifestyle changes I needed to. You can do it if you want it bad enough.
I'll tell you this, its easier when your younger, don't wait untill your middle aged and try it..its harder. The YMCA where I go is full of guys and girls trying to make up for all the years they abused and neglected themselves. Its kinda funny but then again not. Go for it..one thing, a B complex mixture of the b vits might be as good and would might be better. Don't forget your minerals. Zinc is important for mental health.
Peace
Naw, its just a little embaressing to me I guess.. don't worry about it.
You have a good game plan, now the only problem is..is to stick to it.
Thats the hardest part, it took me several years to make the lifestyle changes I needed to. You can do it if you want it bad enough.
I'll tell you this, its easier when your younger, don't wait untill your middle aged and try it..its harder. The YMCA where I go is full of guys and girls trying to make up for all the years they abused and neglected themselves. Its kinda funny but then again not. Go for it..one thing, a B complex mixture of the b vits might be as good and would might be better. Don't forget your minerals. Zinc is important for mental health.
Peace
Copper
01-08-2001, 03:16 PM
TickyDick, I LOVE your posts! :D
You give good, sound advice to the nutritionally challenged. I've got a question, though. As a nutritionist, I apparently have a different take on the benefits/detriments of beans, potatoes and other root(starchy) vegetables. I DEFINITELY agree about the pasta, breads and other processed starches. But, could you explain, please, your opposition to the natural/whole starchy foods? Thanks ahead of time. ;)
Even though I drink at least a gallon of pure water everyday, I always forget to suggest people drink lots. WAY TO GO!!!!
Oh yeah, what's an RO machine?
peace back at ya!
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Copper
Let Miracles Replace all Grievances
You give good, sound advice to the nutritionally challenged. I've got a question, though. As a nutritionist, I apparently have a different take on the benefits/detriments of beans, potatoes and other root(starchy) vegetables. I DEFINITELY agree about the pasta, breads and other processed starches. But, could you explain, please, your opposition to the natural/whole starchy foods? Thanks ahead of time. ;)
Even though I drink at least a gallon of pure water everyday, I always forget to suggest people drink lots. WAY TO GO!!!!
Oh yeah, what's an RO machine?
peace back at ya!
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Copper
Let Miracles Replace all Grievances
Sapphie
01-08-2001, 08:15 PM
I wondered the same about the RO machine....
About the pasta and potatoes.....that is a HUGE tough one for me. I will have to figure out a way to cut down!!!!
Thanks,
About the pasta and potatoes.....that is a HUGE tough one for me. I will have to figure out a way to cut down!!!!
Thanks,
mannaguy
01-09-2001, 02:49 AM
We all have what could be called a "health bank account". Because of a mother-to-be's health some are born with a low beginning balance while others start out with a rather hefty balance. What we do to our bodies is how we make a deposit or make a withdrawl. Exercise, sleep, eating the foods that are right for your body and drinking pure water are some of the best ways to make deposits. Working/playing too hard and too long, stress, poor diets, lack of sleep, are just some of the ways we make withdrawls.
Those who are nutritionally wealthy end up with a higher quality of life than those that don't.
When one makes deposits the fastest way to a hefty balance is by depositing, let's say, $1000 at time rather than pennies. My experience has been that just eating a balanced diet and taking a multiple vitamin, was like making a deposit of pennies. Some vitamin programs made me feel like I was making withdrawls. Once I read the book YOUR BODY KNOWS BEST and did the Metabolic Profile and started eating according to what MY body needs and began taking the profiled vitamins according to MY needs it was like the deposits were being made with $1000's. For what it's worth.
Those who are nutritionally wealthy end up with a higher quality of life than those that don't.
When one makes deposits the fastest way to a hefty balance is by depositing, let's say, $1000 at time rather than pennies. My experience has been that just eating a balanced diet and taking a multiple vitamin, was like making a deposit of pennies. Some vitamin programs made me feel like I was making withdrawls. Once I read the book YOUR BODY KNOWS BEST and did the Metabolic Profile and started eating according to what MY body needs and began taking the profiled vitamins according to MY needs it was like the deposits were being made with $1000's. For what it's worth.
TrickyDick
01-14-2001, 11:29 AM
Hey Girls and Guys,
I like the idea of customizing your diet, So as to get max $$ out of it. I have done that to a degree that I would not have believed possible just a few years ago. All by trial and error...But, not with the benifit of a book. I wish I had read it, it might have saved me a lot of time and effort.
Copper...I am not totallyagainst starches, just hate them because I like them too much (most people do). Over several years, I, like millions of others, tried to get my youthful body back by trying different diets. I had no real luck, as I was not making a serious lifestyle change. But I did determine that my hunger and metabolism was very insulin sensitive and it was triggered by starches and various sugars.
Some people, maybe more than suspected are like that. Also, because of the portions Americans have become accustomed to, you would have to work out very hard 2 hours a day every week day and 4 hours on a weekend to make up for the Ammount of food and they consume every day.
Before my metaolism changed (at about 37 yo) I could and did comsume at least the following twice a day and never could get over 160 lbs(at 5'10") with no real exercise (except a moderate amount while working).
12 to 14 oz. of meat, large baked potato with butter or huge splat of mashed potato (covered with butter or such) Lots of gravy made with who knows what, lots of other prepared veggies, bread and a huge piece of pie or cake for desert. Plus your usual junk food snacks during the day. I also considered beer a necessary food group each day.
If I ate that way now, I would have to do very heavy work or exercise at least 5 hours a day or I would weight 250 lbs. in just a few months.
I tried to find the original info I read that started me on a low or no starch and sugar program, I could not on the net. I did find this article which may reference what I am remembering..Sorry but I can not be sure if it is the one, but it is almost the same. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/meriam/starches-fat.htm
Everybody is different in what their bodies can use efficently and what it decides to turn to fat. But I really believe (in my humble opinion) that following the basics of what I do will result in a healthy body that you won't have to spend many hours a week in exercise hell.
As you know I also champion the daily multi vit. and mineral supplements. Especially the B group and zinc. Those are easy to do a search and research on.
See Arkie6's post over at weight loss board, he is a champion of this type of "diet".
I think I will quit rambling now, my fingers hurt and I hear a bag of pork rines calling.
[This message has been edited by TrickyDick (edited 01-14-2001).]
I like the idea of customizing your diet, So as to get max $$ out of it. I have done that to a degree that I would not have believed possible just a few years ago. All by trial and error...But, not with the benifit of a book. I wish I had read it, it might have saved me a lot of time and effort.
Copper...I am not totallyagainst starches, just hate them because I like them too much (most people do). Over several years, I, like millions of others, tried to get my youthful body back by trying different diets. I had no real luck, as I was not making a serious lifestyle change. But I did determine that my hunger and metabolism was very insulin sensitive and it was triggered by starches and various sugars.
Some people, maybe more than suspected are like that. Also, because of the portions Americans have become accustomed to, you would have to work out very hard 2 hours a day every week day and 4 hours on a weekend to make up for the Ammount of food and they consume every day.
Before my metaolism changed (at about 37 yo) I could and did comsume at least the following twice a day and never could get over 160 lbs(at 5'10") with no real exercise (except a moderate amount while working).
12 to 14 oz. of meat, large baked potato with butter or huge splat of mashed potato (covered with butter or such) Lots of gravy made with who knows what, lots of other prepared veggies, bread and a huge piece of pie or cake for desert. Plus your usual junk food snacks during the day. I also considered beer a necessary food group each day.
If I ate that way now, I would have to do very heavy work or exercise at least 5 hours a day or I would weight 250 lbs. in just a few months.
I tried to find the original info I read that started me on a low or no starch and sugar program, I could not on the net. I did find this article which may reference what I am remembering..Sorry but I can not be sure if it is the one, but it is almost the same. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/meriam/starches-fat.htm
Everybody is different in what their bodies can use efficently and what it decides to turn to fat. But I really believe (in my humble opinion) that following the basics of what I do will result in a healthy body that you won't have to spend many hours a week in exercise hell.
As you know I also champion the daily multi vit. and mineral supplements. Especially the B group and zinc. Those are easy to do a search and research on.
See Arkie6's post over at weight loss board, he is a champion of this type of "diet".
I think I will quit rambling now, my fingers hurt and I hear a bag of pork rines calling.
[This message has been edited by TrickyDick (edited 01-14-2001).]