erik
08-07-2002, 04:54 PM
Has anyone had any benefit with HGH supplements? Their adds make them sound like the fountain of youth. Unfortunately adds seldom pan out.
Happy trails,
Erik
Happy trails,
Erik
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Jay Tor
08-07-2002, 08:46 PM
Recently saw a BBC/TLC special called 'How to Build a Human - Forever Young'. HGH was mentioned by medical researchers as having the ability to youthen but at the cost of a ten-fold increase in both the incidence of cancer as well as the rate at which it spreads [metastizes].
There was mention of a super-antioxidant referred to simply as 'SCS' [Buck Institute] which shows even better results. So far it's been tested only on earthworms. Human trial dates would only be set after this compound successfully passed mouse trials. [Count on at least 4 to 5 years.]
There was mention of a super-antioxidant referred to simply as 'SCS' [Buck Institute] which shows even better results. So far it's been tested only on earthworms. Human trial dates would only be set after this compound successfully passed mouse trials. [Count on at least 4 to 5 years.]
erik
08-08-2002, 09:32 AM
Thanks for the information. Funny HGH adds never mention an increase in cancer rates. That is not good. How did BBC/TLC determine there was a ten fold increase? Was that meer speculation or was there sound scientific research?
Again thanks for your time and attention,
Erik
Again thanks for your time and attention,
Erik
Jay Tor
08-08-2002, 04:38 PM
The ten-fold risk was specifically mentioned by a 50+ woman who's been injecting herself with HGH for over a year. She decided to take HGH despite warnings from her physician and despite having learned about this side-effect through her own research. The scientists/M.D.s spoke in more general terms about HGH; overall, they felt that there are too many unknowns with HGH. Like most made-for-tv med/science shows, this one didn't provide journal references in its production credits. You can probably catch this episode since TLC does a lot of repeat programming.
I've read about HGH mostly in med/sci articles discussing its use in pediatrics where despite an ideal biochem environment HGH can still surprise.
I've read about HGH mostly in med/sci articles discussing its use in pediatrics where despite an ideal biochem environment HGH can still surprise.
erik
08-08-2002, 05:07 PM
Thanks for the information. I am more curious about the supplements taken to boost the pituitary gland's output of HGH. Human Growth Hormone Labs HGH Labs puts out one in capsule form and VitaminBoost sell a spray. I find their adds to be to good to be true which generally mean the aren't. I was trying to see what others think about them.
Thanks,
E
Thanks,
E
SALLYWINTERS
08-22-2002, 05:47 PM
I take "HGH Supreme" along with my daily gym work outs. I've found that i've been getting much better results from my workouts since i began taking it. HGH can be very helpful for fat loss and muscle gain.
erik
08-23-2002, 09:42 AM
Thanks for the information. Who puts out HGH Supreme? I talked to my doctor about the supplement the other day and I am not sure I conveyed the question well but he did not think it was a good idea. I still do not understand why stimulating my own HGH production can be bad. But I do know the fountain of youth advertising claims are seldom, if ever, true. Basic polling puts you down as a yea. While I do have two nays I am still on the fence.
Thanks for the information,
Erik
Thanks for the information,
Erik
Tangle
09-21-2002, 02:37 AM
After reading much on HGH and decicing i needed to try it, i opted for GABA supplementation. GABA studies showed similar amounts of HGH released as comparred to any other nutritional product.
The most effective natural method of boosting HGH seems to be the newly discoverd Deer Antler Velvit. DAV does not stimulate pituitary production of HGH; it stimulates the production of IGF1 (Insulin Growth Factor 1). HGH is converted into IGF1. So, technicaly Dear Antler Velvit doesn't stimulate or raise HGH at all.
I will proly try the velvit someday, but for now i am very pleased w/ all the benifits i receive from GABA, and i have found an affordable free form supplyer.
Hope this helps, good luck
The most effective natural method of boosting HGH seems to be the newly discoverd Deer Antler Velvit. DAV does not stimulate pituitary production of HGH; it stimulates the production of IGF1 (Insulin Growth Factor 1). HGH is converted into IGF1. So, technicaly Dear Antler Velvit doesn't stimulate or raise HGH at all.
I will proly try the velvit someday, but for now i am very pleased w/ all the benifits i receive from GABA, and i have found an affordable free form supplyer.
Hope this helps, good luck
erik
09-23-2002, 09:48 AM
Tangle,
Thanks for the information. I did not know HGH and IGF1 were tied so closely together. Does GABA have a site for research?
Again thanks for the help,
Erik
Thanks for the information. I did not know HGH and IGF1 were tied so closely together. Does GABA have a site for research?
Again thanks for the help,
Erik
Tangle
09-26-2002, 02:29 AM
The info i have for GABA came from Nutrition book and Google search. GABA is Gama Amino Butyric Acid, a natural neurotransmitter in the human body. Supplementing GABA has identicle effects as prescription anti-anxiety medicine in the Diazepam family. These drugs act directly on GABA receptors. But at some point in time, other effects were noted in it's use, particularly muscle gain, weight loss, and incresed sex drive & performance. Now it is known that GABA nurishes the pituitary gland, which in turn promotes growth hormone release.
erik
09-26-2002, 10:05 AM
Now I understand GABA a little better. This sounds much like the two supplements I mentioned earlier. I think I might have to try vitaminboost's HGH spray. They call it a "secretagogue" containing amino acids and other nutrients. I will ask, if possible, for its ingredients and see if GABA is among them.
Thanks,
Erik
Thanks,
Erik
Tangle
09-27-2002, 04:38 AM
Eric
I just happened to have downloaded the ingredience of the supp you speak of. Yes, it does contain GABA, among other benificial nutrients. If you do try this product, please report it's effects.
I just happened to have downloaded the ingredience of the supp you speak of. Yes, it does contain GABA, among other benificial nutrients. If you do try this product, please report it's effects.
erik
09-27-2002, 09:19 AM
Very well. Where did you find the ingredients?
batman777
10-22-2002, 02:02 AM
The best way to find out about GABA is to do an intense google internet search on it. I seem to recall that the best way to absorb it is sublingually. But I am reluctant to try it out because they never tell you the negative things.
For example you can read of glowing reports that high doses of L-Arginine will cause the body to release HGH (and it works!) but they don't tell you that it will cause the body to overproduce Nitric Oxide (more glowing reports) which can cause nervous system damage (not reported at all!).
For example you can read of glowing reports that high doses of L-Arginine will cause the body to release HGH (and it works!) but they don't tell you that it will cause the body to overproduce Nitric Oxide (more glowing reports) which can cause nervous system damage (not reported at all!).