snoopy63
07-10-2003, 08:27 PM
I feel like I need to share this...
I have just come to the realization that just about any type of argument can be made for any type of diet. I first realized this in reading a book about eatng high carb and low fat and that "carbs help burn fat" and "fat makes you fat". I did this type of diet and I lost weight.
Then there is the other philosophy... "fat burns fat" and you need to eat less carbs because the body burns those before the fat so if there are no carbs...it will go straight to burning fat. I did this type of diet and I lost weight. :round:
I have been reading the board with everyone's different philosophies and notice there have been conflicts between them. I was reading today about a diet that has you eat all your carbs at dinner. Then I picked up a magazine that basically had you eat "good carbs" all day and protein at night. this same article was saying to eat a big dinner to get your metabolism going throughout the evening..whereas many will say to have your big meal in the morning and not so much in the evening! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Hopefully to make this short(er), what I am realizing is that ALL of these work. An argument can be made for all of them. Really the best "diet" is the one you can live with and do and is compatible to YOU. I was trying not to have so many carbs, but it is difficult for me to have to count that and calories and I realized that the times I have been most successful are when I did what I wanted and could live with! If you lose weight on YOUR plan..is it not the "right one?" I dont think there is a right or wrong as long as it works!
Just a thought I had today...sorry this was long, I just really wanted to share it.
Have a great evening everyone! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dance.gif
I have just come to the realization that just about any type of argument can be made for any type of diet. I first realized this in reading a book about eatng high carb and low fat and that "carbs help burn fat" and "fat makes you fat". I did this type of diet and I lost weight.
Then there is the other philosophy... "fat burns fat" and you need to eat less carbs because the body burns those before the fat so if there are no carbs...it will go straight to burning fat. I did this type of diet and I lost weight. :round:
I have been reading the board with everyone's different philosophies and notice there have been conflicts between them. I was reading today about a diet that has you eat all your carbs at dinner. Then I picked up a magazine that basically had you eat "good carbs" all day and protein at night. this same article was saying to eat a big dinner to get your metabolism going throughout the evening..whereas many will say to have your big meal in the morning and not so much in the evening! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Hopefully to make this short(er), what I am realizing is that ALL of these work. An argument can be made for all of them. Really the best "diet" is the one you can live with and do and is compatible to YOU. I was trying not to have so many carbs, but it is difficult for me to have to count that and calories and I realized that the times I have been most successful are when I did what I wanted and could live with! If you lose weight on YOUR plan..is it not the "right one?" I dont think there is a right or wrong as long as it works!
Just a thought I had today...sorry this was long, I just really wanted to share it.
Have a great evening everyone! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dance.gif
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RainaBabe
07-10-2003, 08:58 PM
Amen Amen Amen.
Houdini
07-10-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by snoopy63:
...what I am realizing is that ALL of these work. An argument can be made for all of them...
I partially agree with this - what I mean is that while all of these diets do work well for SOMEONE, they might not all work for YOU. Some diets work great for some people, but not other people.
Originally posted by snoopy63:
...Really the best "diet" is the one you can live with and do and is compatible to YOU... If you lose weight on YOUR plan..is it not the "right one?"
I TOTALLY agree with this! There is a "right" diet for everyone, you just have to find the one that works for you AND is something you can do long-term. Good post, Snoopy!!! :)
...what I am realizing is that ALL of these work. An argument can be made for all of them...
I partially agree with this - what I mean is that while all of these diets do work well for SOMEONE, they might not all work for YOU. Some diets work great for some people, but not other people.
Originally posted by snoopy63:
...Really the best "diet" is the one you can live with and do and is compatible to YOU... If you lose weight on YOUR plan..is it not the "right one?"
I TOTALLY agree with this! There is a "right" diet for everyone, you just have to find the one that works for you AND is something you can do long-term. Good post, Snoopy!!! :)
snoopy63
07-10-2003, 10:05 PM
Thanks! Let me clarify something though! When I said they ALL work, what I meant was they all have worked for SOMEONE and everyone just needs to figure out which one works for them!
I was reading frustration on this board this morning and one poster had disagreed with another about the way to go about it BUT I thought to myself...it couldnt have been wrong because it had worked for HER!
I was starting to wonder what I should do and I decided that what I should do is what works for me! There might be evidence that low carb is the best way to go but if I cant stick to it and I can stick to a different plan that might not be so low carb and I still get results - it is still a good plan! :)
I was reading frustration on this board this morning and one poster had disagreed with another about the way to go about it BUT I thought to myself...it couldnt have been wrong because it had worked for HER!
I was starting to wonder what I should do and I decided that what I should do is what works for me! There might be evidence that low carb is the best way to go but if I cant stick to it and I can stick to a different plan that might not be so low carb and I still get results - it is still a good plan! :)
Lindarella
07-11-2003, 03:16 AM
Amen, I agree. I get blasted quite often about the way I've went about losing weight. I love when I get told "you're wrong" when, here I am, below goal and maintaining. :p
The good thing about hearing others stories is that one may just inspire you to get up and do it. There are many different roads to the same destination....
The good thing about hearing others stories is that one may just inspire you to get up and do it. There are many different roads to the same destination....
DonutsNCoffee
07-11-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Lindarella:
I get blasted quite often about the way I've went about losing weight. I love when I get told "you're wrong" when, here I am, below goal and maintaining.
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody? The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work. That's why I'm reluctant to share what worked for me unless I can be sure that it can be used by everyone. Sure there are different ways to lose weight. But I think it makes more sense to eliminate the ones that don't work for everybody.
I get blasted quite often about the way I've went about losing weight. I love when I get told "you're wrong" when, here I am, below goal and maintaining.
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody? The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work. That's why I'm reluctant to share what worked for me unless I can be sure that it can be used by everyone. Sure there are different ways to lose weight. But I think it makes more sense to eliminate the ones that don't work for everybody.
Lindarella
07-11-2003, 10:43 AM
Seems like I've acquired a tail. :D
blondie24
07-11-2003, 11:33 AM
I agree completely Snoopy!! :)
snoopy63
07-11-2003, 12:38 PM
I think that if people say what worked for them, it may give someone an idea they hadnt thought of before and maybe it WOULD work for them when everything else they tried didn't and THAT was depressing them thinking that they HAD tried everything and it wasnt working.
There are two sides to every story.. :D
There are two sides to every story.. :D
Houdini
07-11-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by DonutsNCoffee:
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody?...
This is true, but I just don't thing there are many (if any) things that apply to absolutely everybody.
Originally posted by DonutsNCoffee:
... The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work...
True, but we shouldn't just not tell anyone how we lost weight - the key is to always make sure to tell them up front that your way may or may not work for them. Remind them that different things work for different people. That way, they won't necessarily be so let down if your method doesn't work for them - they can say they tried, at least. I agree with Snoopy that you may be saving someone from depression if your method does happen to work for them. Guess there are two sides to every coin!
:)
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody?...
This is true, but I just don't thing there are many (if any) things that apply to absolutely everybody.
Originally posted by DonutsNCoffee:
... The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work...
True, but we shouldn't just not tell anyone how we lost weight - the key is to always make sure to tell them up front that your way may or may not work for them. Remind them that different things work for different people. That way, they won't necessarily be so let down if your method doesn't work for them - they can say they tried, at least. I agree with Snoopy that you may be saving someone from depression if your method does happen to work for them. Guess there are two sides to every coin!
:)
skybornmusic
07-11-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by DonutsNCoffee:
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody? The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work. That's why I'm reluctant to share what worked for me unless I can be sure that it can be used by everyone. Sure there are different ways to lose weight. But I think it makes more sense to eliminate the ones that don't work for everybody.
Though I normally agree with ya, donuts, I'm going to have to dissent on this one. I mean, chemotherapy does nothing for some cancer patients; it keeps others cancer-free for years. Should no one learn about or try it just because it may not work for everyone? Sure, it would be GREAT if it worked for everyone, but people are different and their bodies respond differently. If we eliminated it because it is not universally successful, we would be depriving a lot of people of a remedy for their illness.
In principle, it's the same with weight-loss methods. Why eliminate one that has actually worked for some people and might work for more? At least in theory, people are smart enough to realize when a method is not working for them, stop using that method, and try something else (and for the people who aren't even that smart... well, is it really worth depriving everyone else?) Not to mention that, in practical fact, there simply is no possibility for a weight loss method that works for everyone. Even an immaculately healthy diet and a solid exercise program will not work for someone whose mental blocks prevent them from following such a program, whereas a less rigid or "proven" program may allow them to lose weight and keep it off by getting around those mental blocks. So, when it comes to methods, I say "to each his own" - stick with what works for you.
All in good humor, of course... :)
Yes, but wouldn't it be better for everyone if we came up with things that could be applied to everybody? The problem with you or telling what we did to lose weight is that someone may read it thinking it'll work for them and become even more depressed when it doesn't work. That's why I'm reluctant to share what worked for me unless I can be sure that it can be used by everyone. Sure there are different ways to lose weight. But I think it makes more sense to eliminate the ones that don't work for everybody.
Though I normally agree with ya, donuts, I'm going to have to dissent on this one. I mean, chemotherapy does nothing for some cancer patients; it keeps others cancer-free for years. Should no one learn about or try it just because it may not work for everyone? Sure, it would be GREAT if it worked for everyone, but people are different and their bodies respond differently. If we eliminated it because it is not universally successful, we would be depriving a lot of people of a remedy for their illness.
In principle, it's the same with weight-loss methods. Why eliminate one that has actually worked for some people and might work for more? At least in theory, people are smart enough to realize when a method is not working for them, stop using that method, and try something else (and for the people who aren't even that smart... well, is it really worth depriving everyone else?) Not to mention that, in practical fact, there simply is no possibility for a weight loss method that works for everyone. Even an immaculately healthy diet and a solid exercise program will not work for someone whose mental blocks prevent them from following such a program, whereas a less rigid or "proven" program may allow them to lose weight and keep it off by getting around those mental blocks. So, when it comes to methods, I say "to each his own" - stick with what works for you.
All in good humor, of course... :)