arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 09:14 AM
Hi ev1.... I have trouble sleeping because sometimes when I start to doze off I suddenly get jerked awake and my heart feels like it does flips or something. Then once in awhile when that happens I feel tremors in my body or like a buzzing feeling or something. Hard to describe but it is really strange. Doctor didn't find anything so I'm thinking I will have to see a specialist. I didn't get any sleep whatsoever this time and when I tried to sleep a little while ago I got jerked from my sleep again. Sometimes I will get to sleep sometimes I won't. Sometime's I don't get to sleep until 4 a.m.. Does anyone know what this could possibly be? Thanks!
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drs
07-03-2002, 09:29 AM
Sometimes when the body goes into a relaxed state your muscles jump. I have a girl friend that does this even during her waking hours. She once was relaxing in a resturant with a cup of coffee in her hand...her muscle jumped and you guessed it...the coffee went flying, now she takes a sip and sets it down. Sorry don't know how to prevent it. I do know she never drinks enough water daily, very high cholesterol and has arthritis.
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arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 09:50 AM
Omg! Hot coffee! That had to have hurt! lol....
Actually, my problem only happens when I start to doze off right at the very beginning and to be completely honest, I AM SCARED! I am so tired right now from no sleep and it's just a total mystery to me.
Thanks for replying :)
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Actually, my problem only happens when I start to doze off right at the very beginning and to be completely honest, I AM SCARED! I am so tired right now from no sleep and it's just a total mystery to me.
Thanks for replying :)
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arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 09:52 AM
Oh yeah, by the way, sometimes when all that happens to me I feel like a really severe panic attack is going to happen but it goes away. And I will also feel kind of lightheaded or like I will pass out almost.
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drs
07-03-2002, 10:52 AM
Sometime in your past did you have a fear of falling asleep? Some times people get this when they were pretty young, and it sticks with them. Try and relax, remember it's not going to kill you. Somewhere on the boards~~panic attacks/anxiety,maybe, there was a excersize to do when this panic feeling starts. It was breath in for 7 seconds,hold for 7, let it out for 7, hold for 7....keep doing this till it goes away. It takes practice too. Kinda hard to do at the beginning, just don't give up right away. The jumping is the body's way of relaxing, try drinking more water during the day and cut way down till you off the caffine an/or alcohol products. I know someone who gets panic attacks and she takes alittle sea/salt on the tip of the tongue when they happen. She's also on the watercure diet. 1/4 teas. of a min. seasalt mixed in a little water, for every quart of water taken in. No caffine, cut down slowly if you do have caffine daily. Gives you nasty headaches to just quit. Also calcium helps and so does magnesium, for muscles. Take it a 1/2 to an hour or so before bed time. That should help.
Do you have any blood pressure problems or adema(swelling)? If so go easy on the salt if swelling is present. Take care, Diana. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/tired.gifGets some rest girl, you deserve it! :wave:
Do you have any blood pressure problems or adema(swelling)? If so go easy on the salt if swelling is present. Take care, Diana. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/tired.gifGets some rest girl, you deserve it! :wave:
arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by drs:
Sometime in your past did you have a fear of falling asleep? Some times people get this when they were pretty young, and it sticks with them. Try and relax, remember it's not going to kill you. Somewhere on the boards~~panic attacks/anxiety,maybe, there was a excersize to do when this panic feeling starts. It was breath in for 7 seconds,hold for 7, let it out for 7, hold for 7....keep doing this till it goes away. It takes practice too. Kinda hard to do at the beginning, just don't give up right away. The jumping is the body's way of relaxing, try drinking more water during the day and cut way down till you off the caffine an/or alcohol products. I know someone who gets panic attacks and she takes alittle sea/salt on the tip of the tongue when they happen. She's also on the watercure diet. 1/4 teas. of a min. seasalt mixed in a little water, for every quart of water taken in. No caffine, cut down slowly if you do have caffine daily. Gives you nasty headaches to just quit. Also calcium helps and so does magnesium, for muscles. Take it a 1/2 to an hour or so before bed time. That should help.
Do you have any blood pressure problems or adema(swelling)? If so go easy on the salt if swelling is present. Take care, Diana. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/tired.gif Gets some rest girl, you deserve it! :wave:
Hi,
No, I have never had a fear of falling asleep. When I get jerked from my sleep it's not the normal type of jerk you are refering to I think. Also, I hardly ever get panic attacks. Have pills for that if needed. But when I get that feeling when the problem occurs it goes away right away so it has never actually turned into a panic attack. That's the only way I could describe it. I hardly ever have any caffeine but I do drink from time to time. No blood pressure problems or swelling. Just can't seem to figure this out lol. Anyways, thanks again! :)
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Sometime in your past did you have a fear of falling asleep? Some times people get this when they were pretty young, and it sticks with them. Try and relax, remember it's not going to kill you. Somewhere on the boards~~panic attacks/anxiety,maybe, there was a excersize to do when this panic feeling starts. It was breath in for 7 seconds,hold for 7, let it out for 7, hold for 7....keep doing this till it goes away. It takes practice too. Kinda hard to do at the beginning, just don't give up right away. The jumping is the body's way of relaxing, try drinking more water during the day and cut way down till you off the caffine an/or alcohol products. I know someone who gets panic attacks and she takes alittle sea/salt on the tip of the tongue when they happen. She's also on the watercure diet. 1/4 teas. of a min. seasalt mixed in a little water, for every quart of water taken in. No caffine, cut down slowly if you do have caffine daily. Gives you nasty headaches to just quit. Also calcium helps and so does magnesium, for muscles. Take it a 1/2 to an hour or so before bed time. That should help.
Do you have any blood pressure problems or adema(swelling)? If so go easy on the salt if swelling is present. Take care, Diana. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/tired.gif Gets some rest girl, you deserve it! :wave:
Hi,
No, I have never had a fear of falling asleep. When I get jerked from my sleep it's not the normal type of jerk you are refering to I think. Also, I hardly ever get panic attacks. Have pills for that if needed. But when I get that feeling when the problem occurs it goes away right away so it has never actually turned into a panic attack. That's the only way I could describe it. I hardly ever have any caffeine but I do drink from time to time. No blood pressure problems or swelling. Just can't seem to figure this out lol. Anyways, thanks again! :)
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YadaYada
07-03-2002, 11:20 AM
You said you have pills for panic attacks if needed?
Did this "jerking awake" syndrom start after you began taking those pills?
Try sleeping in a different position -- maybe put a pillow under your knees and several behind your back so you are sort of sitting/slouching.
I had a similar problem to yours when I came home from the hospital once and it seemed like it lasted for months. The only way I could get any sleep was to prop myself up in bed.
Perhaps if you just prop your feet up so they are at a higher level than you heart it will help.
I have sleep problems and I know how that exhaustion is.
Good Luck
Did this "jerking awake" syndrom start after you began taking those pills?
Try sleeping in a different position -- maybe put a pillow under your knees and several behind your back so you are sort of sitting/slouching.
I had a similar problem to yours when I came home from the hospital once and it seemed like it lasted for months. The only way I could get any sleep was to prop myself up in bed.
Perhaps if you just prop your feet up so they are at a higher level than you heart it will help.
I have sleep problems and I know how that exhaustion is.
Good Luck
arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 11:28 AM
Hi,
No, the problem isn't from the pills (xanax). I haven't had to use those in a very long time. You said you had something like that. Did it go away?
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No, the problem isn't from the pills (xanax). I haven't had to use those in a very long time. You said you had something like that. Did it go away?
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Jay Tor
07-03-2002, 11:47 AM
Try the "Restless Leg Syndrome" topics board - some of your symptoms resemble this condition.
The calcium/magnesium is also a good idea.
The calcium/magnesium is also a good idea.
arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 02:03 PM
Restless leg? Hmmmmm...I will check to see what you are talking about. Thanks! :)
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4given1
07-03-2002, 06:03 PM
Hiya dreamin'! :wave:
I'm almost 100% sure that you're experiencing what I do from time to time. It truly is hard to describe...it's almost like your jerked awake by a strong vibration in your chest or a horrendous case of the butterflies multiplied by 1000. Is that pretty close? It's definately a strange feeling, and I'm pretty sure it's anxiety-related. I'm usually able to fall right back to sleep after it happens.
I'm almost 100% sure that you're experiencing what I do from time to time. It truly is hard to describe...it's almost like your jerked awake by a strong vibration in your chest or a horrendous case of the butterflies multiplied by 1000. Is that pretty close? It's definately a strange feeling, and I'm pretty sure it's anxiety-related. I'm usually able to fall right back to sleep after it happens.
arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 06:09 PM
Hi!
Yes, that's very, very close but the vibration is all over not just in my chest but my heart feels like it does a flip or something. Sometimes I can go to sleep afterwards but not always. I find that if that happens and I just try to ignore it that helps but only "sometimes". Thanks for responding! Hope ev1 has a safe and happy 4th of July!!! :wave: :bouncing:
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Yes, that's very, very close but the vibration is all over not just in my chest but my heart feels like it does a flip or something. Sometimes I can go to sleep afterwards but not always. I find that if that happens and I just try to ignore it that helps but only "sometimes". Thanks for responding! Hope ev1 has a safe and happy 4th of July!!! :wave: :bouncing:
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flojo37160
07-03-2002, 06:14 PM
you might try asking a physician to refer you to a Dr. who does sleep studies, to find out what activity goes on in your brain while you are asleep.
It is a very safe and non-invasive test where you just go to sleep and they monitor what you do while you sleep and look for problems that show up. They use this for sleep apnea problems and such, so you may want to check this out.
It is a very safe and non-invasive test where you just go to sleep and they monitor what you do while you sleep and look for problems that show up. They use this for sleep apnea problems and such, so you may want to check this out.
arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 06:21 PM
Hi,
The only thing is that I would not be able to sleep there. I would feel so uncomfortable. Especially with them doing tests on me or watching me all night.
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The only thing is that I would not be able to sleep there. I would feel so uncomfortable. Especially with them doing tests on me or watching me all night.
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Kirsty
07-03-2002, 08:59 PM
Hi,
I used to have problems sleeping and infact even now I stay awake till realy late.
I think you have to be realy relaxed before you fall asleep so I always make sure I have a hot cup of tea before I sleep.
Also you can't get into a realy relaxed state if you have something on your mind, if my dad ever works away from home for a night or he goes on a golfing trip my mum chcks the front door is locked about 5 times and she hates being on he rone.
You should get into a routine and therefore you won't have to worry that you have forgoton something. If you have a lot of stress from work then don't work late into the night.
I think the pain is just a way your body is making sure you are constantly alert.
My grandma got like that when my grandad became ill with Alzheimers (sorry about the spellin)
you need to relax and if you realy cant sleep get into the most comfortable position and just relax your body its better than wondering around becuase you can't sleep.
Good luck
Kirsty.
I used to have problems sleeping and infact even now I stay awake till realy late.
I think you have to be realy relaxed before you fall asleep so I always make sure I have a hot cup of tea before I sleep.
Also you can't get into a realy relaxed state if you have something on your mind, if my dad ever works away from home for a night or he goes on a golfing trip my mum chcks the front door is locked about 5 times and she hates being on he rone.
You should get into a routine and therefore you won't have to worry that you have forgoton something. If you have a lot of stress from work then don't work late into the night.
I think the pain is just a way your body is making sure you are constantly alert.
My grandma got like that when my grandad became ill with Alzheimers (sorry about the spellin)
you need to relax and if you realy cant sleep get into the most comfortable position and just relax your body its better than wondering around becuase you can't sleep.
Good luck
Kirsty.
mikesgirl
07-03-2002, 09:11 PM
Hi,
my boyfriend used to have similar problems to what you are describing...he didn't sleep for 3 days once. He was having panic attacks and didn't ever figure out why. One thing he learned however is that he has mitral valve prolapse...I guess this can sometimes be linked somehow to panic attacks. He used to get that weird chest feeling too, still does sometimes. But after he found out that nothing was seriously wrong with him physically, he felt fine. Just food for thought, good luck! :)
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my boyfriend used to have similar problems to what you are describing...he didn't sleep for 3 days once. He was having panic attacks and didn't ever figure out why. One thing he learned however is that he has mitral valve prolapse...I guess this can sometimes be linked somehow to panic attacks. He used to get that weird chest feeling too, still does sometimes. But after he found out that nothing was seriously wrong with him physically, he felt fine. Just food for thought, good luck! :)
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arizona_dreamin
07-03-2002, 11:51 PM
Thanks ev1! I really appreciate the help and advice. Happy 4th of July! :)
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Jesp
07-07-2002, 02:42 AM
It sounds like once you fall asleep you wake up with a start and then can't get back to sleep (?). Have you ever been told that you snore? Have you ever been tested for Sleep Apnea? When someone has Apnea and they stop breathing in their sleep, the body sends a rush of adrenaline to make the body kick back into gear, for some people, this rush is enough to startle them and keep them awake. When they do sleep, they do not get rested. It has been described as an 8-hour workout without the cardiac benefits because your body is deprived of oxygen just as if you were in a gym working out. The longer this disease goes undiagnosed, the more severe it gets, and the more physiological problems it causes, including depression (not crying in a corner depression, clinical, physiological depression!) which can in turn cause more sleeping difficulties. Pretty vicious cycle. My brother, father, and husband have all been diagnosed with this and within one month of using a constant air-flow machine were into a normal sleeping pattern and experienced 150% increase in mood and quality of life!
The test is very non-invasive, usually done over-night, it takes about 1 hour to hook up leads (much like the things they stick to your chest for an EKG) and then they put you in a bed with a TV and leave the room to let you sleep. In many areas they now perform the tests in hotels rather than hospitals to make you more comfortable. Good Luck!
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The test is very non-invasive, usually done over-night, it takes about 1 hour to hook up leads (much like the things they stick to your chest for an EKG) and then they put you in a bed with a TV and leave the room to let you sleep. In many areas they now perform the tests in hotels rather than hospitals to make you more comfortable. Good Luck!
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flexfire
07-07-2002, 12:42 PM
I know that many have sleep disorders...
But I firmly beleive that a consistent exercise program is good for sleep etc.
I sware that it promotes soundness of mind and health.
Proper eating as well. Above all, a close knit relationship with God, in combination with these principles, is excellent. The rewards are immeasurable and long term!
I am 46 and have been an avid exerciser all my life and I know that this combination life style is crucial!
But I firmly beleive that a consistent exercise program is good for sleep etc.
I sware that it promotes soundness of mind and health.
Proper eating as well. Above all, a close knit relationship with God, in combination with these principles, is excellent. The rewards are immeasurable and long term!
I am 46 and have been an avid exerciser all my life and I know that this combination life style is crucial!
paramedik1
07-07-2002, 06:37 PM
if you're doctor doesn't seem worried, go with it...this can be normal, I have the same thing
Denise F
07-07-2002, 07:34 PM
Jerking while falling asleep is very normal. It's called
the myclonic jerk. (not sure of spelling). It
happens normally when muscles are relaxing. The rapid
heart beat might be from your surprise at being jolted
awake.
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the myclonic jerk. (not sure of spelling). It
happens normally when muscles are relaxing. The rapid
heart beat might be from your surprise at being jolted
awake.
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