Merrida
02-03-2003, 06:13 AM
I know diet can contribute to body odor, especially certain foods, certain spices. Other than the obvious (such as sulfer veggies like garlic and onions, some spices like curry, etc.),...what other things can contribute to body odor?
Suppose there's plenty of water being drunk, no smoking, no alcohol, none of these foods involved, and of course, good personal hygeine. What else would cause body odor?
I don't know how to clasify this question because I wonder if there's causes other than foods and hygeine, or what in particular could contribute, and to what degree.
Also, if the diet doesn't involve pungent foods on a regular basis, what then? I mean, if curry is eaten every day, it makes sense.... asparagus even! But if any of the "known" dietary triggers are not consumed or rarely consumed, what would cause a more consistent odor?
Suppose there's plenty of water being drunk, no smoking, no alcohol, none of these foods involved, and of course, good personal hygeine. What else would cause body odor?
I don't know how to clasify this question because I wonder if there's causes other than foods and hygeine, or what in particular could contribute, and to what degree.
Also, if the diet doesn't involve pungent foods on a regular basis, what then? I mean, if curry is eaten every day, it makes sense.... asparagus even! But if any of the "known" dietary triggers are not consumed or rarely consumed, what would cause a more consistent odor?
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Anonymity
02-03-2003, 01:31 PM
Have you considered heredity? (No offense intended.)
I ask because my mom has always had a more pungent body odor that she has to spend extra time dealing with- prescription deoderants, etc. Even though she's done just about everything, she still has a distinctive smell that is stronger than the average person's. She also sweats in larger amounts and in cooler environments than the average person. Doctors have told her that it's a combination of hormones and body chemistry and not a sign of a more serious problem.
Unfortunately, I inherited this trait from her, and I also have to use presciption deoderants, etc. It bothers me, but I do my best to cover/ treat it. My fiance insists that I do a good job and that I smell no more than the average person once I've used my deoderants and powders, etc. It is annoying trying to deal with the excess sweating, but I guess we all have those things that we must deal with! ;)
I have heard that some doctors are trying botox injections into sweat glands in order to numb/paralyze them for short periods of time. Since botox was originally used to paralyze muscle twitches etc. before it became a cosmetic surgery cure-all, this techniqe makes sense. I wonder, however, what effects a useless sweat gland has on the body, since sweat glands release toxins that build up in the body. Maybe someday, when scientists have determined it's harmless, and I have a good amount of money (insurance surely wouldn't pay for that kind of botox use!), I'll try the injections.
I suppose if you're truly worried you could see an endricrinologist (definitely spelled incorrectly!), who works with hormones, etc, to make sure that yours are pretty well balanced. I would think some relatively simple blood tests could rule out any hormonal problems. Beyond that, I would suggest asking your doctor about Drysol (prescription deoderant/anti-perspirant) or Certain Dri (non-prescription, but still stronger than Sure and Arrid, etc.).
Good luck figuring it all out! If you don't mind, let me know if you find a super-good deoderant or body wash etc, and I'll try it too! :)
I ask because my mom has always had a more pungent body odor that she has to spend extra time dealing with- prescription deoderants, etc. Even though she's done just about everything, she still has a distinctive smell that is stronger than the average person's. She also sweats in larger amounts and in cooler environments than the average person. Doctors have told her that it's a combination of hormones and body chemistry and not a sign of a more serious problem.
Unfortunately, I inherited this trait from her, and I also have to use presciption deoderants, etc. It bothers me, but I do my best to cover/ treat it. My fiance insists that I do a good job and that I smell no more than the average person once I've used my deoderants and powders, etc. It is annoying trying to deal with the excess sweating, but I guess we all have those things that we must deal with! ;)
I have heard that some doctors are trying botox injections into sweat glands in order to numb/paralyze them for short periods of time. Since botox was originally used to paralyze muscle twitches etc. before it became a cosmetic surgery cure-all, this techniqe makes sense. I wonder, however, what effects a useless sweat gland has on the body, since sweat glands release toxins that build up in the body. Maybe someday, when scientists have determined it's harmless, and I have a good amount of money (insurance surely wouldn't pay for that kind of botox use!), I'll try the injections.
I suppose if you're truly worried you could see an endricrinologist (definitely spelled incorrectly!), who works with hormones, etc, to make sure that yours are pretty well balanced. I would think some relatively simple blood tests could rule out any hormonal problems. Beyond that, I would suggest asking your doctor about Drysol (prescription deoderant/anti-perspirant) or Certain Dri (non-prescription, but still stronger than Sure and Arrid, etc.).
Good luck figuring it all out! If you don't mind, let me know if you find a super-good deoderant or body wash etc, and I'll try it too! :)
Blue4U2
02-03-2003, 06:13 PM
I think it does depend strongly on the individual,
but I have noticed that canned tuna fish and asparagus
can lend to certain body odor.
Blue
but I have noticed that canned tuna fish and asparagus
can lend to certain body odor.
Blue
Merrida
02-05-2003, 08:39 AM
I don't sweat excessively, and personally, my sweat rarely has an odor to it, or if it does, it's pretty insignificant. The only correlation I've noticed myself is certain foods (the obvious asparagus which I remember from being a little kid, in the summers, and with incredible embarassment, thought it was "me" or my imagination, until I grew up and found out it was the asparagus!), and my body doesn't personally handle foods like garlic, onions or fish very well. I have certain foods I deem "weekend foods" precisely because I know they'll take 2 days to get out of my system.
One nasty surprising offender was when I ate roasted veggie garden burgers! Those seem pretty inocuous don't they? Usually the roasting helps mellow any sulfers or soften any pungent ingredients, and garden burgers alone,....heck, seems ok, right? Especially just one.
I ate one for lunch with mayo on a bun, brushed my teeth, used listerine too I think, went to work for the afternoon, thought nothing of it.... and when I came home 7 HOURS LATER (!) my Husband was the one who asked me, "What did you EAT!?" (That was my breath, though, and all I could think about was how I was totally clueless for all that time, and all my poor clients that afternoon!)
But back to the topic of body odor, my question,... I'm trying to postulate some possible offenders in this regard, other than those we all pretty much conclude contribute strongly, such as those we mentioned.
What kind of hormonal problems would affect body odor? (Specifically, I mean).
As for the botox injections for sweating, yes I've read that, too. (Do you remember the "boxes" for sale at the back of magazines that you'd put your palms on, and the soles of your feet, to stop sweating? I think they contained aluminum chlorhydrate or something else to deaden the nerve endings that would cause dilation of the pores around the sweat glands).
I can see botox doing the same thing. My first thought was, as yours was, -- for the most part, we sweat for a purpose, our skin is our largest organ, and it's one method of ridding the body of toxins but very importantly, it's also a thermal regulator and diagnostic tool. Tampering with it must have side effects. I guess proponents would feel the body just reabsorbs the sweat.
I'm one of the rare females who does not wear anti-perspirant. Even in my field. I wear men's deodorant. (I have a hard time finding "female" products that are deodorants only -- although the whole "female/male" thing is beyond me). I have not worn anti-perspirants for about 15 years except on rare occasions like formal events.
A final question: A number of cultures do not bathe or shower to the degree that Americans do and in fact we've been smirked at for our excessive concern over our daily rituals. These practices seem long-standing, and I've read numerous articles on various positions. Are there specific health benefits or to the contrary, potential risks, in bathing or not bathing "regularly," in correlation to FREQUENCY?
In particular I've read about the bacteria on the skin, and that (aside from the obvious damage done by stuff like excessive sloughing or scrubbing of the skin or harsh detergent cleansers)... is there truly any health benefit to "our" daily cleansings over other cultures views of less frequent washing? (Other than our cultural perceptions of cleanliness or odors?)
Thanks.
One nasty surprising offender was when I ate roasted veggie garden burgers! Those seem pretty inocuous don't they? Usually the roasting helps mellow any sulfers or soften any pungent ingredients, and garden burgers alone,....heck, seems ok, right? Especially just one.
I ate one for lunch with mayo on a bun, brushed my teeth, used listerine too I think, went to work for the afternoon, thought nothing of it.... and when I came home 7 HOURS LATER (!) my Husband was the one who asked me, "What did you EAT!?" (That was my breath, though, and all I could think about was how I was totally clueless for all that time, and all my poor clients that afternoon!)
But back to the topic of body odor, my question,... I'm trying to postulate some possible offenders in this regard, other than those we all pretty much conclude contribute strongly, such as those we mentioned.
What kind of hormonal problems would affect body odor? (Specifically, I mean).
As for the botox injections for sweating, yes I've read that, too. (Do you remember the "boxes" for sale at the back of magazines that you'd put your palms on, and the soles of your feet, to stop sweating? I think they contained aluminum chlorhydrate or something else to deaden the nerve endings that would cause dilation of the pores around the sweat glands).
I can see botox doing the same thing. My first thought was, as yours was, -- for the most part, we sweat for a purpose, our skin is our largest organ, and it's one method of ridding the body of toxins but very importantly, it's also a thermal regulator and diagnostic tool. Tampering with it must have side effects. I guess proponents would feel the body just reabsorbs the sweat.
I'm one of the rare females who does not wear anti-perspirant. Even in my field. I wear men's deodorant. (I have a hard time finding "female" products that are deodorants only -- although the whole "female/male" thing is beyond me). I have not worn anti-perspirants for about 15 years except on rare occasions like formal events.
A final question: A number of cultures do not bathe or shower to the degree that Americans do and in fact we've been smirked at for our excessive concern over our daily rituals. These practices seem long-standing, and I've read numerous articles on various positions. Are there specific health benefits or to the contrary, potential risks, in bathing or not bathing "regularly," in correlation to FREQUENCY?
In particular I've read about the bacteria on the skin, and that (aside from the obvious damage done by stuff like excessive sloughing or scrubbing of the skin or harsh detergent cleansers)... is there truly any health benefit to "our" daily cleansings over other cultures views of less frequent washing? (Other than our cultural perceptions of cleanliness or odors?)
Thanks.
BJ25
02-09-2003, 01:33 PM
Hi. This may be a stretch, but my younger sister was diagnosed with a genectic disorder that caused her body odor. Its NOT life threatning and with a specific diet, you can eliminate the body odor.
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BJ25
02-16-2003, 06:44 PM
hi
Merrida
02-16-2003, 07:04 PM
What specific genetic disorder does your sister have? Specifically, what is wrong, what was the diagnosis, and what is the diet (ie: principles of the diet program, that is).
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BJ25
02-16-2003, 07:14 PM
It's an extremly long name, but is called TMAU. I am not sure of the actual medical terminology, but it's a genetic disorder. Her body produces something that would normally be cleaned out but isn't. Therefore, its released through her pores. sometimes it smells "fishy" & sometimes like urine.. it varies. One of the biggest thing she cannot have is an ingredient called lecithin. It is in so many foods. Also egg yolk, and things containing yolk. And seafood!! THere are other things too..
Merrida
02-17-2003, 06:07 AM
Hmm, I've never heard of it before, it sounds interesting. Scary, but interesting! Thank you for the reply.
BJ25
02-17-2003, 12:58 PM
No, it's not scary. Is not life-threatning and now that she watches what she eat.... you'd never know she has the disorder
lacii
02-17-2003, 01:12 PM
Exceessive sweating of course causes more body odors.
Being obese can mean more sweating.
Let me ask. Are you just talking about your underarms? Be honest. I might have a remedy if not.
Being obese can mean more sweating.
Let me ask. Are you just talking about your underarms? Be honest. I might have a remedy if not.
Anonymity
02-17-2003, 02:10 PM
BJ25- How did you sister find out she had this disorder? Did she have testing done? What doctor did she go to (family, internist, etc.)? As I mentioned above, my mother has trouble with odor as well, so I'm wondering...
Lacii- Mine is not confined to my underarms (unfortunately), so let's hear that remedy!! (Please :))
:)
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Lacii- Mine is not confined to my underarms (unfortunately), so let's hear that remedy!! (Please :))
:)
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BJ25
02-18-2003, 02:25 AM
no, her odor isn't from under her arms. She had her tonsils removed at a young age because they thought her tonsils were rotten and causing the odor. She had a horrible time in school and all the doctors dismiss it implying it was a hygiene problem. Many young people commit suicide because of the constant pressure. And not a lot of people are diagnose, because many don't seek doctors. THey're embarrassed thinking its a hygiene problem. FInally, a wonderful pedi. did some research and sent her to a georgia medical university for testing. Sure enough, she had it.
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Merrida
02-18-2003, 10:18 AM
So what is the problem and what was the solution?
GreyMa
02-18-2003, 12:02 PM
Your sister is fortunate if she has been able to get her condition under control; it's not easy to do.
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Anonymity
02-18-2003, 06:00 PM
How bad of an odor are we talking about? Is it totally overwhelming in every patient or does it vary from patient to patient??
I'm trying to decide if I need to be tested for this, so that's why I ask.
Which doctor should I ask??
General practitioner? Dermatologist??
Help!
Thanks... :)
I'm trying to decide if I need to be tested for this, so that's why I ask.
Which doctor should I ask??
General practitioner? Dermatologist??
Help!
Thanks... :)

