ChristinaD
12-04-2002, 11:25 AM
This is gross but common.
They are small yellowish hard pieces of matter that smell awful and sometimes look like cauliflower. Usually just cough them up or they dislodge themselves.
Anyone else have these and what do you do about them besides removing your tonsils. They also make your thoat sore.
I just wondered if anyone else knew had to avoid them.
They are small yellowish hard pieces of matter that smell awful and sometimes look like cauliflower. Usually just cough them up or they dislodge themselves.
Anyone else have these and what do you do about them besides removing your tonsils. They also make your thoat sore.
I just wondered if anyone else knew had to avoid them.
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Jerseygirl
12-04-2002, 11:45 AM
I heard lots of things about these - I've been getting them since I was a child, my daughter gets them too - from what I read and all, it's little pockets in your tonsils that get food lodged in them (it's the same color and smell as the stuff the dentists get off your teeth.) I never heard of them making the throat sore though. I get them if I eat a hard roll or bagel! It's not necessary to have tonsils removed because of them.
Trooper
12-04-2002, 03:22 PM
Funny that this topic turned up... my brother just had his tonsils removed on Monday of this week because of the pockets and the problems that it was causing. So, actually, it might be necessary to remove your tonsils. My brother has had pockets in his tonsils for a couple of years now (they kept getting bigger). It caused all problems, including a very sore/burning throat. The food would get in there, start to 'decompose', turn hard, cause bad breath, irritation, infections, etc. When I spoke to his doctor (I had to take him to the hospital), she said that they absolutely needed to come out because they were so bad. He is older, so his recovery is going to be a little longer, but it needed to be done. His case got pretty bad over time. I suggest getting a good ENT and have them monitor the size/problems of your pockets.
ChristinaD
12-04-2002, 03:54 PM
Thanks guys for the response!
Interesting, I have always had them, just small ones and rarely like once every couple months or so.
Now, at 27, I hadn't had them for a long time and all of a sudden I am getting them everyday and it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth along with a sore throat. Maybe my "pockets" are getting bigger.
Thank for the advice!!!
Christina
Interesting, I have always had them, just small ones and rarely like once every couple months or so.
Now, at 27, I hadn't had them for a long time and all of a sudden I am getting them everyday and it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth along with a sore throat. Maybe my "pockets" are getting bigger.
Thank for the advice!!!
Christina
Mila21ca
12-07-2002, 12:58 AM
I have experienced this as well, for as long as I can remember. I don't know if they are actually on my tonsils, but definitly on my throat. Anyway, I once asked a doctor about them and he told me that is was simply a "hard saliva build-up". I know what you mean be it hurting your throat. I find that it hurts my throat if I try to take it off and it's not ready. Anyway, I also haven't experienced this in a while and recently it has begun again! Weird!
Anyway, I wouldn't be too worried about it; if it's the same as what I have, it has nothing to do with tonsil pockets.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too worried about it; if it's the same as what I have, it has nothing to do with tonsil pockets.
Jerseygirl
12-07-2002, 10:03 AM
More on this topic under "General Health" posted by wattagirl called, "throat thingies-lol"
wattagirl
12-07-2002, 10:18 PM
did you like my topic name-lol-i didn't know what to call them-anyway mine come and go but i would love to end the problem-i asked a doc about my tonsils one time and he said they were rotting out on their own and i shouldn't worry about them-gross huh-he also said because of my age-31-it would be hard to recover-wish i had had them taken out
Jerseygirl
12-08-2002, 09:27 AM
I love that name! :D That's just about what I'd call 'em too! They seem so common, yet there are so many conflicting stories as to what they are! Well, I've been getting them for over 35 years, I still have my tonsils and I hardly ever get sick.... so I never thought too much of them.
MarlinSmith
12-11-2002, 12:36 AM
My tonsils were full of holes and white smelly chunky crud. I put up with it for years. For one thing, the regular MD's that I went to didn't understand the problem. I went to a specialist and he said that they were chronically infected and had to come out. The surgery wasn't any fun, but it should have been done sooner. I had them out when I was 23, a couple days after I graduated from college. Not much of a graduation gift, but it had to be done.
ChristinaD
12-11-2002, 11:17 AM
Do you'all see the chunks in there? I can't see them but I sometimes feel them when I swallow and sometimes have a weird taste until they come out so I know they are in there. Will it go away on its own? It has been about a month now and I don't want my breath to smell or anything!
MarlinSmith
12-13-2002, 12:28 AM
Oh, yes! Get yourself a flashlight and something to do some digging with and have some fun! I used the file on a toenail clipper since you could straighten the three parts out and the angle and length was about right. In my case, there were holes all over the place and you could dig the white junk out of them. Sorry for the graphic details, but you asked for it!
PS-I'm glad that those days are gone!
PS-I'm glad that those days are gone!
ChristinaD
12-13-2002, 09:15 AM
I have looked at them and stuck a Q-tip in the biggest hole that I think is causing the problems but nothing comes out only a weird smell?!?! I can't see any chunks! Could they just be really far into my tonsils?
MarlinSmith
12-13-2002, 08:28 PM
I'd say that the chunks are still hidden inside your tonsils. Keep checking back there and I bet that they will rear their ugly heads sooner or later. They seem to appear in their own due course. They'd often just end up in my mouth. They smell and taste terrible!
Look for a speck of white. (White indicates an infection.) Usually, that's just the head of a bigger nugget. I don't know how big your mouth is (HA!) but I was able to see things pretty well back there.
I was told that I had chronically infected tonsils, as opposed to tonsilitis. Before going to a specialist, an MD told me "you definately don't want to have your tonsils taken out" and that the white stuff "was just some food like a piece of potato." Wrong on both counts! The specialist said that my tonsils were too far gone and had to be taken out. I agreed. It wasn't any fun, but it was for the best.
I'm pretty big into alternative health but if your tonsils are as bad as mine were, I'm not sure what the solution would be other than surgery. If they stay in, I'm afraid that they will only cause you lingering problems. Often, I was functional but didn't feel well and it went on for years! I should have had them taken out when I was a little kid but that was in an era when doctors were reluctant to take them out.
Look for a speck of white. (White indicates an infection.) Usually, that's just the head of a bigger nugget. I don't know how big your mouth is (HA!) but I was able to see things pretty well back there.
I was told that I had chronically infected tonsils, as opposed to tonsilitis. Before going to a specialist, an MD told me "you definately don't want to have your tonsils taken out" and that the white stuff "was just some food like a piece of potato." Wrong on both counts! The specialist said that my tonsils were too far gone and had to be taken out. I agreed. It wasn't any fun, but it was for the best.
I'm pretty big into alternative health but if your tonsils are as bad as mine were, I'm not sure what the solution would be other than surgery. If they stay in, I'm afraid that they will only cause you lingering problems. Often, I was functional but didn't feel well and it went on for years! I should have had them taken out when I was a little kid but that was in an era when doctors were reluctant to take them out.
wattagirl
12-13-2002, 11:14 PM
marlin-i went to a doc over throat problems-i asked him about the white things and never got an answer-that was several years ago-he told me that my tonsils were rotting out-can you believe that-i asked him if i should have them removed and he said nature was taking it's course-i wonder now after reading your post if i should see a specialist and ask about having mine removed-
MarlinSmith
12-16-2002, 04:18 AM
I'd say that would depend on how much trouble they seem to be causing you. I know one person who seems to be getting by with the problem. She doesn't want surgery. In my case, they were bad enough that the decision to take them out was a good one.
ChristinaD
12-16-2002, 10:04 AM
Thanks Marlin for the input. I can see a little white on my tonsils just like two little specs but it does not go away. I have one main hole on my left tonsil and I know that that is where those litte buggers are hiding!! I usually don't see them unless they end up in my mouth too. When I do "dislodge" them, they smell like the bad taste I sometimes get in my mouth. It is a little better when I gargle salt water but I am going to the doctor this week. It is to disgusting! I am afraid to get my tonsils out since they say it is painful as an adult.
I'll let you know what the doc says!!
Christina
I'll let you know what the doc says!!
Christina
Merrida
12-17-2002, 11:21 AM
Ahh! So THAT is what they are! I've always wondered. I thought I was the only person to get these. I wondered if they were being coughed up from my lungs. It never occured to me that they could be from my tonsils.
I knew by the odor it was decay, so I was afraid it meant decay of lung tissue, not decay of food lodged in a pocket in my tonsils.
Well it sure makes a lot of sense, after reading the posts!
I knew by the odor it was decay, so I was afraid it meant decay of lung tissue, not decay of food lodged in a pocket in my tonsils.
Well it sure makes a lot of sense, after reading the posts!
Jazzmyne
12-20-2002, 04:29 PM
I'm glad I stumbled upon this website. I've been suffering with these little nasties for a couple of years now. Unfortunately they seem to be getting worse, or maybe because I'm more aware of them and am actively seeking them, I'm seeing them more. As I am a vocalist, I'm terrified about getting surgery, so I've been looking for alternate ways of dealing with them. I've learned that I can use a Q-tip to gently squeeze the tonsil to pop them out. (I say gently because I accidently was too rough once and caused one to start bleeding a little) So far, most of the sites of seen encourage people with these tonsiloliths (technical name) to try and deal with them before surgery, if you can. Some of the things suggested to help were... 1. gargling with warm salt water after meals 2. Getting a water pik (which i will be getting soon as it must work better than the Q-tips) 3. A round of antibiotics might help 4. A new laser procedure which is said to shrink the pits on your tonsils, so food and bacteria can no longer get trapped in them to cause the tonsil stones. If you know of any other helpful things please let me know, and good luck to all of you dealing with these little buggers!
Tigernpooh2001
01-02-2003, 01:59 PM
I just had my tonsil removed 3 weeks ago. I went to the ENT Dr. in Oct. because I had these whitish nasty smelling abcesses that were coming off for a year. They kept getting bigger and bigger. She suggested I either deal with it for the rest of my life or have my tonsils removed also to mention the fact my tonsils where the size of golf balls. I chose to have them out. I am still not 100% recovered but believe it is well worth it. I suggest you go see an ENT Dr. and se what he/she has to say.
ChristinaD
01-02-2003, 02:09 PM
Tiger,
What do you mean you aren't recovered yet? Are you still in pain or what? I want my tonsils out due to these little buggers but have heard that getting them out as an adult can be horrid!
What do you mean you aren't recovered yet? Are you still in pain or what? I want my tonsils out due to these little buggers but have heard that getting them out as an adult can be horrid!
Tigernpooh2001
01-02-2003, 03:28 PM
I had my 2 week check up last Friday and my ENT Dr. said I still have scabs that haven't come off. Some people take longer. Over the weekend I developed a Sinus infection which has infected the area where my tonsils were removed a little bit. They told me today that I need to finish my Anitbiotic I recieved for my sinus infection and it should clear up.
Adults do have a harder time with a tonsillectomy. They say a good 2 to 3 weeks for recovery. I was in severe pain for the first 6 days. I couldn't eat at all or really drink anything. But again I am a wimp. It all depends on the person.
Good luck with your decision.
Adults do have a harder time with a tonsillectomy. They say a good 2 to 3 weeks for recovery. I was in severe pain for the first 6 days. I couldn't eat at all or really drink anything. But again I am a wimp. It all depends on the person.
Good luck with your decision.
silvershado1
01-21-2003, 06:27 AM
Well I have had this problem since 1995. I went to my doc and he commented that I had large tonsils, but at that stage there was no crap in them. But I found out years later in 98 that I had chronic tonsillitis and I had it every month even after a dose of antibiotics. I don't have a problem with it right now and have not had a problem since my last lot of antibiotics. Which was around Christmas. But even now if I press my Tongue against my tonsils I get that yucky taste. Here in Australia we have a 5 year wait to get your tonsils out through public hospitals, to go private its over $1000.00 and a 3 month wait. I don';t have the time or the money so I am putting up with it and making sure I don't run myself down or get sick, for a bad attack to come.
Merrida
01-21-2003, 12:07 PM
A five year wait? For regular insurance coverage?
Dang,....I guess you have to be really healthy to live in Oz! Wowza!
Dang,....I guess you have to be really healthy to live in Oz! Wowza!
ChristinaD
01-21-2003, 04:13 PM
That is what I was thinking. Wow, five years is a long time. I didn't know that was the case over there.
silvershado1
01-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Most of us don't have insurance for health. Our health system is free, Unless you want to go private.
maude&bandit
01-25-2003, 05:40 PM
Wow--am I glad found this posting. I have been having these things on my tonsils too and didn't know what they were. I thought I was the only one also. I get them out too and you guys are right--they stink. I will ask my DR. now about them. I thought I was weird or something. lol
Merrida
01-25-2003, 08:14 PM
I still can't figure out HOW they get there. And either they're more common but people don't talk about them, or we're really in the minority to have them.
They smell just like dental decay.
When I first started "hucking" them up, the smell reminded me of decay, and I translated that into diseased or dying tissue, and then I thought about how I first felt it in my throat (not my "mouth" area), and then I thought about how I had to "huck" 'em up or "cough" 'em up, and then THAT got me thinking these things were actually coming from my LUNGS!
Needless to say, THAT had me quite worried that I was doing the proverbial "coughing up a lung!" People have talked about coughing up bits of their lungs, so I made that association and figured I had some diseased tissue coming up.
I'm so glad to have found this site and learned about what they were. At least I don't feel as freaked out by them!
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They smell just like dental decay.
When I first started "hucking" them up, the smell reminded me of decay, and I translated that into diseased or dying tissue, and then I thought about how I first felt it in my throat (not my "mouth" area), and then I thought about how I had to "huck" 'em up or "cough" 'em up, and then THAT got me thinking these things were actually coming from my LUNGS!
Needless to say, THAT had me quite worried that I was doing the proverbial "coughing up a lung!" People have talked about coughing up bits of their lungs, so I made that association and figured I had some diseased tissue coming up.
I'm so glad to have found this site and learned about what they were. At least I don't feel as freaked out by them!
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Life isn't what happens to you -- it's how you react to it!
Thoughts don't make us who we are -- Actions do.
ChristinaD
03-28-2003, 12:11 PM
BUMP
Dramaqueen
03-30-2003, 01:18 AM
I just had my tonsils out on the 27th. I only had those things once but am so glad my tonsils are gone now. Everyone says surgery is very painful etc but if you keep up the pain meds, plenty of fluids and lots of bed rest-it's not too bad.
Stacie212
03-31-2003, 04:58 AM
Hey guys!!
I am so glad I found this website. i have been having these nasty white things for about a year now. I get this weird feeling in my throat and that's when I know these "tonsil stones" have formed. I get them out with my nails. and sometimes I keep having to press on the tonsil because more and more white stuff keeps coming out. I asked a doctor about it once and he just said it was food stuck up there.
Does anyone know what causes these tonsil stones? My mother tells me my father used to have these too. Is it possible its hereditary? I remember when I was younger getting this weird sensation in my throat once in a while. But only last year I discovered a white hard spot on my tonsil.Do antibiotics help at all? I have always had large tonsils and I'm guessing that has something to do with this.
And yeah these things are the worst smelling things ever!!!
-Stacie
I am so glad I found this website. i have been having these nasty white things for about a year now. I get this weird feeling in my throat and that's when I know these "tonsil stones" have formed. I get them out with my nails. and sometimes I keep having to press on the tonsil because more and more white stuff keeps coming out. I asked a doctor about it once and he just said it was food stuck up there.
Does anyone know what causes these tonsil stones? My mother tells me my father used to have these too. Is it possible its hereditary? I remember when I was younger getting this weird sensation in my throat once in a while. But only last year I discovered a white hard spot on my tonsil.Do antibiotics help at all? I have always had large tonsils and I'm guessing that has something to do with this.
And yeah these things are the worst smelling things ever!!!
-Stacie
Lindarella
04-01-2003, 01:16 AM
IN a sense they can be hereditary as most people who have them have a condition called cryptic tonsils. It's a fancy name for tonsils with deep holes and groves. There isn't anything that can be done about short of getting them out.
Audrey-B
04-01-2003, 08:00 AM
After reading all the replies, i just had to add mine. When i was little i suffered from tonsilitis constantly and the doctor told my parents that i'd grow out of it. So at 29 i found myself having my tonsils removed as i was getting sick all the time once again. The specialist said i could either live on antibiotics for the rest of my life or have them removed....and YES i too used to constantly get those "things" growing in the holes of my tonsils which would either come out of their own accord or if i got one of those cotton buds (for cleaning ears) and gently pressed the side of my tonsil, the object would pop out and yes, i agree, it's gross. I had mine out in 1995 and i only had a 2 month wait to have the procedure done in a public hospital. It's not the nicest of operations, but 100% worth it.
NorieB
04-27-2003, 01:43 AM
Hey there,
Finding this messageboard is like realising finally that i'm not going crazy and i'm not the only one suffering these horrible symptoms. I am a 32yr old mother of two, and have been trying to solve this problem on my own for about 9 years.
After seeing two ENT's and getting told that i will just 'have to live with these lumps' (which neither of them had heard of before) i became very disheartened and reluctant to push it any further with the Doctor's and instead i have spent heaps of money on alternative treatments (to no avail)- thinking, instead that my whole problem stems from allergies. I even had my amalgam fillings replaced (which didn't help either).
After getting on-line not long ago i have found a stack of info on these tonsiloliths and today found this page also. My symptoms also include chronic itchiness inside the ear and at the back of the throat when one of these little balls are trying to get out. This is really what drives me crazy as it usually happens through the night and keeps me from sleeping - thus having to resort to antihistimines occasionally so i can sleep. I'm wondering if anyone else has the itching? Also do you suffer 'post-nasal drip' and do you think it is helped by having the tonsils out.
My voice is becoming croaky lately as well and i'm wondering if this is anything to do with it or if it's just that i'm talking too much.
This is my first time on a message board and i would dearly appreciate some replies.
[This message has been edited by NorieB (edited 04-27-2003).]
Finding this messageboard is like realising finally that i'm not going crazy and i'm not the only one suffering these horrible symptoms. I am a 32yr old mother of two, and have been trying to solve this problem on my own for about 9 years.
After seeing two ENT's and getting told that i will just 'have to live with these lumps' (which neither of them had heard of before) i became very disheartened and reluctant to push it any further with the Doctor's and instead i have spent heaps of money on alternative treatments (to no avail)- thinking, instead that my whole problem stems from allergies. I even had my amalgam fillings replaced (which didn't help either).
After getting on-line not long ago i have found a stack of info on these tonsiloliths and today found this page also. My symptoms also include chronic itchiness inside the ear and at the back of the throat when one of these little balls are trying to get out. This is really what drives me crazy as it usually happens through the night and keeps me from sleeping - thus having to resort to antihistimines occasionally so i can sleep. I'm wondering if anyone else has the itching? Also do you suffer 'post-nasal drip' and do you think it is helped by having the tonsils out.
My voice is becoming croaky lately as well and i'm wondering if this is anything to do with it or if it's just that i'm talking too much.
This is my first time on a message board and i would dearly appreciate some replies.
[This message has been edited by NorieB (edited 04-27-2003).]
quincy
04-27-2003, 03:06 AM
Hi all.....just had to tell my tonsil habits to people who are in the "know". Finally, an opportunity to unload to someone other than my husband.
Hi, I'm quincy....and I am a tonsil squeezer! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
My habit started in 1983. I was diagnosed with asthma and had chronic colds, bronchitis, and my tonsils tried to help to the best of its ability..but it was too much for them. Finally, they became overloaded with too much crapola.
One day, I checked out what felt like something scratching in my throat (with a small flashlight) and as I stretched my mouth open this white stuff starting coming out of my right tonsil. I took two q-tips and squeezed from the outer edge (not the open edge) and tons of stuff came out. I kept getting new q-tips, got more stuff and kept pushing around the outside (slightly changing position higher and lower) of the area to push out the stuff until I couldn't get any more stuff.
The next day, the swollen glands below my ear went down, my sore throat started to clear and I was hooked on cleaning out those buggers every day from then on.
I've taken to doing both, and actually, before they turn to stones...it must be a kind of mucus in there because sometimes that's what comes out.
I talked to my ENT about it when I first started doing that and begged to have my tonsils out. No go, and I've resented him for that ever since.
So, after brushing my teeth and tongue in the morning, my tonsils get cleaned out too. A good rinse afterward, and I never have to worry about them being dislodged or getting chewed in with my gum....YUCK,BLEH!!
I am however interested in the waterpic! I often thought about inventing a vaccuum for them, but cleaning out the vaccuum afterward would be too much.
Thank you my fellow tonsil stone sufferers for giving me the opportunity to tell my story.
quincy
Hi, I'm quincy....and I am a tonsil squeezer! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
My habit started in 1983. I was diagnosed with asthma and had chronic colds, bronchitis, and my tonsils tried to help to the best of its ability..but it was too much for them. Finally, they became overloaded with too much crapola.
One day, I checked out what felt like something scratching in my throat (with a small flashlight) and as I stretched my mouth open this white stuff starting coming out of my right tonsil. I took two q-tips and squeezed from the outer edge (not the open edge) and tons of stuff came out. I kept getting new q-tips, got more stuff and kept pushing around the outside (slightly changing position higher and lower) of the area to push out the stuff until I couldn't get any more stuff.
The next day, the swollen glands below my ear went down, my sore throat started to clear and I was hooked on cleaning out those buggers every day from then on.
I've taken to doing both, and actually, before they turn to stones...it must be a kind of mucus in there because sometimes that's what comes out.
I talked to my ENT about it when I first started doing that and begged to have my tonsils out. No go, and I've resented him for that ever since.
So, after brushing my teeth and tongue in the morning, my tonsils get cleaned out too. A good rinse afterward, and I never have to worry about them being dislodged or getting chewed in with my gum....YUCK,BLEH!!
I am however interested in the waterpic! I often thought about inventing a vaccuum for them, but cleaning out the vaccuum afterward would be too much.
Thank you my fellow tonsil stone sufferers for giving me the opportunity to tell my story.
quincy
ChristinaD
04-28-2003, 03:04 PM
What a pain this is!!!!!!
I just got off an antibiotic for a sinus and ear infection thing. Ever since I posted this message, I have had problems with this "cold" coming back (and post nasal drip). My doctor says he will send me to a ENT doctor if I wish. So, if this goes on one more time, I am off to tell the ENT to cut those bad boys out!!! I refuse to have to deal with these forever! I cannot stand constantly checking my tonsils and squeezing on them making them bleed because of this rediculous problem.
Quincy,
If you constantly get these, then why don't you demand getting your tonsils out or see a new doctor?
These things are so foul that they make me ill!!!!
I am just terrified because they say it is mightly painful getting the old tonsils out as an adult!
I hope you all find a good cure for these and thanks for the stories!!! (even though they quite rancid!!)
Christina
I just got off an antibiotic for a sinus and ear infection thing. Ever since I posted this message, I have had problems with this "cold" coming back (and post nasal drip). My doctor says he will send me to a ENT doctor if I wish. So, if this goes on one more time, I am off to tell the ENT to cut those bad boys out!!! I refuse to have to deal with these forever! I cannot stand constantly checking my tonsils and squeezing on them making them bleed because of this rediculous problem.
Quincy,
If you constantly get these, then why don't you demand getting your tonsils out or see a new doctor?
These things are so foul that they make me ill!!!!
I am just terrified because they say it is mightly painful getting the old tonsils out as an adult!
I hope you all find a good cure for these and thanks for the stories!!! (even though they quite rancid!!)
Christina
not2bad
04-28-2003, 11:26 PM
Hi All! Suprised to find this subject...I guess they DO cover everything here! Want to hear my story?...hush! you're gonna hear it anyway LOL!
When I was young (I'm over the proverbial hill now) about 12, I was always getting sick with colds and sore throats and, too had those 'tonsil stones' (as someone so eloquently put it), but the main thing was I was in seventh grade and only weighed 89 lbs and was only 4'11" tall. I was taken to the doctor and he said the reason I wasn't growing or gaining weight was due to my tonsils...so I had them out. I remember being in hospital and having the worst sore throat ever and the only thing I could take was ginger ale (still love it!). Being a child and hurting so much, I can imagine what it would be like as an adult. But kids heal fast and so it went. I suddenly started to gain weight and was thrilled to reach the triple digit figure for weight and I grew two inches! I no longer have tonsils or adnoids (they use to remove those at the same time, but I can't say why) and fortunately, don't have to deal with those little devils anymore either. My youngest daughter has them, too, but doctors refused to remove her tonsils.
My theory is this (after hearing from so many doctors and realizing they all seem to have little knowledge as to what causes them or even why we have tonsils, since we can survive without them...like the gall bladder and appendix), I believe the tonsil is like lymph nodes in the body, only one that is visible. I believe they are clearing houses for impurities and the substance that is extruded from them is the bacteria and impurities that float around in our systems. I also believe these 'pockets' are actually 'outlets' for this bacteria and when you have an infection in the throat area or possibly even the ear area, the bacteria will build up and be excreted from the tonsils, thus causing a 'flare up'of 'stones'. Otherwise, how do you explain the fluid that comes from these pockets if it isn't being excreted from within the tonsil itself? I've never believed the 'food stuck' theory. To me, its like saying pimples come from the outside and go under your skin that's why they have pus in them. Wrong! I'll stress, though, not being a doctor, this in my theory.
At least it sounds more logical to me than some of the ridiculous things doctors come up with!
Anyway, when you have a flare up of these things, it might be a signal that there is infection going on somewhere in your body. Try keeping your mouth clean as possible...don't forget brushing that tongue as far back as possible and gargle. Have dental check-ups. And, above all, be very careful poking around back there and if you have to, make sure your fingers (or tool) is sterile as possible!
For all we know everyone's tonsils are the same, but some people just don't get any problems related to them. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I've been there, so you all have my sympathy and understanding...for what its worth. 'NITE ALL!
When I was young (I'm over the proverbial hill now) about 12, I was always getting sick with colds and sore throats and, too had those 'tonsil stones' (as someone so eloquently put it), but the main thing was I was in seventh grade and only weighed 89 lbs and was only 4'11" tall. I was taken to the doctor and he said the reason I wasn't growing or gaining weight was due to my tonsils...so I had them out. I remember being in hospital and having the worst sore throat ever and the only thing I could take was ginger ale (still love it!). Being a child and hurting so much, I can imagine what it would be like as an adult. But kids heal fast and so it went. I suddenly started to gain weight and was thrilled to reach the triple digit figure for weight and I grew two inches! I no longer have tonsils or adnoids (they use to remove those at the same time, but I can't say why) and fortunately, don't have to deal with those little devils anymore either. My youngest daughter has them, too, but doctors refused to remove her tonsils.
My theory is this (after hearing from so many doctors and realizing they all seem to have little knowledge as to what causes them or even why we have tonsils, since we can survive without them...like the gall bladder and appendix), I believe the tonsil is like lymph nodes in the body, only one that is visible. I believe they are clearing houses for impurities and the substance that is extruded from them is the bacteria and impurities that float around in our systems. I also believe these 'pockets' are actually 'outlets' for this bacteria and when you have an infection in the throat area or possibly even the ear area, the bacteria will build up and be excreted from the tonsils, thus causing a 'flare up'of 'stones'. Otherwise, how do you explain the fluid that comes from these pockets if it isn't being excreted from within the tonsil itself? I've never believed the 'food stuck' theory. To me, its like saying pimples come from the outside and go under your skin that's why they have pus in them. Wrong! I'll stress, though, not being a doctor, this in my theory.
At least it sounds more logical to me than some of the ridiculous things doctors come up with!
Anyway, when you have a flare up of these things, it might be a signal that there is infection going on somewhere in your body. Try keeping your mouth clean as possible...don't forget brushing that tongue as far back as possible and gargle. Have dental check-ups. And, above all, be very careful poking around back there and if you have to, make sure your fingers (or tool) is sterile as possible!
For all we know everyone's tonsils are the same, but some people just don't get any problems related to them. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I've been there, so you all have my sympathy and understanding...for what its worth. 'NITE ALL!
ChristinaD
04-29-2003, 11:58 AM
That sounds like a good theory to me.
I really don't understand the whole thing myself because if it were food, then why don't the "stones" look like food at all. I know that if they are in there long enough, then it turns to bacteria and all and won't look like the food we ate. But still, I can go from not having any in my tonsils to all of a sudden having a crapload of stuff in there. None of it which looks to be 'fresh' food. So if it all of a sudden appears then why is it 'decayed' already????? So, that theory sounds possible to me. Mmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder.
I really don't understand the whole thing myself because if it were food, then why don't the "stones" look like food at all. I know that if they are in there long enough, then it turns to bacteria and all and won't look like the food we ate. But still, I can go from not having any in my tonsils to all of a sudden having a crapload of stuff in there. None of it which looks to be 'fresh' food. So if it all of a sudden appears then why is it 'decayed' already????? So, that theory sounds possible to me. Mmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder.
cassandra2000
04-29-2003, 01:47 PM
Hi, I am new but felt I must reply to my fellow australian with the ichy ears and throat with lump problem. I too have ichy ears, I feel like sticking a long thin tool into my ear to scratch. I also suffer with the white or yellow tonsil balls, and a chronic sore throat, and a lump on one side of my inner throat.
I saw a ENT who could not see the lump, he said, he basically patted me on the head and ushered me out, saying everything was normal. Beware the bulk billing specialist.
The deep itch in the ear and itchy throat are very bad and also keep me up and agitated. I have a anaethsatizing spray for my throat, way out of date, but I don't care. I need it too sleep. I also have chronic white ulceration on my throat which fluctuates as to its severity. I would appreciate any insite also as to this itchiness. I also get occassional tinitus, no idea if that is linked. And my hearing fluctuates. Again, no idea if that is connected.
Well, goodnite, I go to attempt sleep with sore throat and ear.....
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I see the future but no one will ever believe me, that is my curse.
Cassandra
I saw a ENT who could not see the lump, he said, he basically patted me on the head and ushered me out, saying everything was normal. Beware the bulk billing specialist.
The deep itch in the ear and itchy throat are very bad and also keep me up and agitated. I have a anaethsatizing spray for my throat, way out of date, but I don't care. I need it too sleep. I also have chronic white ulceration on my throat which fluctuates as to its severity. I would appreciate any insite also as to this itchiness. I also get occassional tinitus, no idea if that is linked. And my hearing fluctuates. Again, no idea if that is connected.
Well, goodnite, I go to attempt sleep with sore throat and ear.....
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I see the future but no one will ever believe me, that is my curse.
Cassandra
quincy
05-01-2003, 12:21 AM
Hi all, you crack me up!!!
not2bad's theory was basically what the doctor told me when I begged him to let me have my tonsils out years ago. The stuff that's coating them inside is mucus and sloughs off and gets mixed up with the food or other impurites that are in the saliva..etc. Mucous in the tonsils protects the body from the bad stuff that goes in through the mouth, the same as the nose does.
But, when the tonsils are overloaded from constant viruses, bacteria (usually strep), they can't clear up and work efficiently for the body anymore...so, they are taken out. There's nothing like having two balls at the back of the throat with concentrated bacteria being constantly swallowed. Yum!
I suppose the name of the stones could be "tonsil poop" or "tonsil snot", but those names are already taken by other orifices...maybe there is a clinical name for them? Ah, another quest!!
cassandra2000 - I have itchy ears and use hydrocortisone (prescribed) on a q-tip (those things can be used for other things than squeezing tonsils). They're mostly itchy at night and I just dip one side into the cream, and twirl away. I use the other side for the other ear. Of course....I am realllly careful! BUT it feeels sooooo goooood!! Ahhh!
I found the brand name Q-Tips SUCK!! I use the brand from SuperStore. They're more flexible, and the cotton tips are wound tightly. The Q-tips hurt, also!
Hope you all yave a great day! TBC, I hope.
quincy
not2bad's theory was basically what the doctor told me when I begged him to let me have my tonsils out years ago. The stuff that's coating them inside is mucus and sloughs off and gets mixed up with the food or other impurites that are in the saliva..etc. Mucous in the tonsils protects the body from the bad stuff that goes in through the mouth, the same as the nose does.
But, when the tonsils are overloaded from constant viruses, bacteria (usually strep), they can't clear up and work efficiently for the body anymore...so, they are taken out. There's nothing like having two balls at the back of the throat with concentrated bacteria being constantly swallowed. Yum!
I suppose the name of the stones could be "tonsil poop" or "tonsil snot", but those names are already taken by other orifices...maybe there is a clinical name for them? Ah, another quest!!
cassandra2000 - I have itchy ears and use hydrocortisone (prescribed) on a q-tip (those things can be used for other things than squeezing tonsils). They're mostly itchy at night and I just dip one side into the cream, and twirl away. I use the other side for the other ear. Of course....I am realllly careful! BUT it feeels sooooo goooood!! Ahhh!
I found the brand name Q-Tips SUCK!! I use the brand from SuperStore. They're more flexible, and the cotton tips are wound tightly. The Q-tips hurt, also!
Hope you all yave a great day! TBC, I hope.
quincy
NorieB
05-01-2003, 08:21 AM
What are Q-tips? Are they what we in Oz call 'cotton buds'? (little stick with twirls of cotton on each end)
I can't beleive how many people have this problem. Here i was thinking it was all in my head - which is basically what an ENT specialist once told me.
This condition is not being taken seriously at all, and i can't help but wonder that now people are actually starting to talk about it that it might not be as uncommon as we all thought. Pretty disheartening though when you explain to a Doctor at length about horrible smelly things coming out of your mouth and they look at you like a freak. This condition has been really taxing on my life for a long time now and it's not getting any better. My voice is getting really hoarse lately and i beleive that it's from the constant swallowing of this mucousy stuff (infection) down the throat. As my hobby is to sing in a folk club and play guitar i'm getting quite scared that this is it for my voice and i'm convinced it's all to do with this condition.
The smelly balls are called 'tonsiloliths' and i too have been told that it is food, which we all know is not quite right.
Finding your stories has given me the much needed determination to go back to the Doctor and show him a printout of this messageboard and demand to have my tonsils removed. Anything would be better than living with this forever so the pain of a tonsillectamy isn't too offputting.
Thanks for your honesty.
Lenore
I can't beleive how many people have this problem. Here i was thinking it was all in my head - which is basically what an ENT specialist once told me.
This condition is not being taken seriously at all, and i can't help but wonder that now people are actually starting to talk about it that it might not be as uncommon as we all thought. Pretty disheartening though when you explain to a Doctor at length about horrible smelly things coming out of your mouth and they look at you like a freak. This condition has been really taxing on my life for a long time now and it's not getting any better. My voice is getting really hoarse lately and i beleive that it's from the constant swallowing of this mucousy stuff (infection) down the throat. As my hobby is to sing in a folk club and play guitar i'm getting quite scared that this is it for my voice and i'm convinced it's all to do with this condition.
The smelly balls are called 'tonsiloliths' and i too have been told that it is food, which we all know is not quite right.
Finding your stories has given me the much needed determination to go back to the Doctor and show him a printout of this messageboard and demand to have my tonsils removed. Anything would be better than living with this forever so the pain of a tonsillectamy isn't too offputting.
Thanks for your honesty.
Lenore
Lindarella
05-01-2003, 04:12 PM
Norie, most often they're caused by post-nasal drip that isn't controlled well. Bacteria builds up more often when you have this condition and produces stones in some people. It sounds very much like that could be your problem as you're saying you have excess mucous and a horse voice, both or which are signs of post-nasal drip. It may be wise to try a few different nasal sprays before getting your tonsils out.
Your tonsils are there because they fight off infection. Most often they're taken out due to numerous throat infections that can't be controlled with medications.
The stones are not caused by food. They're much like plaque on teeth actually. They can build up very fast, just like if you didn't brush your teeth for a few days.
Good luck :wave:
Your tonsils are there because they fight off infection. Most often they're taken out due to numerous throat infections that can't be controlled with medications.
The stones are not caused by food. They're much like plaque on teeth actually. They can build up very fast, just like if you didn't brush your teeth for a few days.
Good luck :wave:
kitty1975us
05-30-2003, 07:59 PM
I am so glad to hear I am not the only one with this problem. I was told by many doctors that I was imagining the crap in my tonsils, that I was crazy, and even had doctors say that they had no idea what I was talking about and that noone had ever told them of this before. I am so glad I am not the only one who gets this yellowish crap that smells and tastes like rotten oysters/clams. I hate to hear other people have this problem...but glad to hear I am not in this alone. My tonsils are always hard, and I get crap out on a daily basis. It sucks. I am always afraid that I have bad breath and that I am offending others around me. I have worked in the health-care field for 10 years, and up until this year I had not heard of anyone else with this problem. One day I was telling my embarrassing story to a girl and work and to my great suprise she finished my sentence and told me she had the problem too. She was lucky enough to have a doctor who listenend her and took her tonsils out. She has felt better physically and emotionally since that date. Unfortunately no doc's will give me the option. I'd have them taken out in a heartbeat. I know the risks, and I would still do it. I'd give just about anything to get rid of these crappy tonsils. I have lupus...I don't see how these darn tonsils can be helping me any...seems like I'd be better off with them gone...the docs seem to not agree. Well, thanks for letting me vent!
moocow35
06-01-2003, 12:50 PM
I have also had the same problem for years. My regular doctor was clueless, I insisted on a throat culture, and even the tech doing the culture was clueless. I then went to an ENT, who knew right away what the problem was. He gave me a prescription for antibiotics, and told me to keep the area clean. He out and out said that I should NOT have my tonsils removed because of my age. It would be an absolute last resort. I have now for years been using a water pik, and add either cepacol or some kind of antibacterial mouthwash to the water. I do this daily, and the only time those nasty smelly things show up are if I don't use the water pik for a couple of days. I always know when they are there, in addition to the bad breath, I feel generally sick, sore neck glands, ears, and throat. Traveling with the water pik is a pain, but it is the only thing that will stop all the symptoms.
quincy
06-01-2003, 08:32 PM
Hi moocow35,
Could you explain "exactly" the process you use with the waterpic. Also, when your ENT said to keep them clean....what was his suggestion? I do the squeezing method which I've "perfected"...but I'm interested in your method.
Thanks muchly,
quincy
Could you explain "exactly" the process you use with the waterpic. Also, when your ENT said to keep them clean....what was his suggestion? I do the squeezing method which I've "perfected"...but I'm interested in your method.
Thanks muchly,
quincy
nikki303
06-02-2003, 04:31 PM
I stumbled across this site about a month ago and couldn't believe my eyes. There were other people out there just like me. I immediately made an appointment with my primary care doctor. She then referred me to an ENT. I was very relieved that the ENT didn't think I was crazy, and he recommended that I have my tonsils removed. Well, I had the procedure this past Friday. I am a 28 year old healthy female and I don't know if it was all worth it or not yet. I still am in pain. The liquid med (pain killer) that the doc gave me made me vomit non-stop. I almost wound up back in the hospital due to dehydration. Fortunately, after stopping the medication,the vomiting also stopped. So, now I am only taking Extra Strength Tylenol. It helps alot, but I definately know when I am ready for my next dose. I'm sure I will live, and be very happy with my decision to have them removed when I am all healed and I don't have to deal with these "little nasties",(as a previous writer referred to them), anymore!
Undecided_one
06-03-2003, 07:00 PM
I get those. my family call them tonsil pussies. kinda gross eh?
greatgirl
06-03-2003, 08:14 PM
:p :p :p :p :p
greatgirl
06-03-2003, 08:16 PM
OOps, double post,lol
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moocow35
06-03-2003, 11:06 PM
Hi Quincy,
I fill the reservior cup of the water pic with warmish water, and add about 1/4 of the cup with either cepacol or listerine. I have mastered getting the tip of the water pik, (without gagging) at the lowest setting, way back into the opening of my tonsils and irrigate the hole. I also pull the area open with the tip of the water pik to make sure all the area gets flushed. It takes practice, but believe me, it is worth it not to have the bad breath, and the ill feeling of swollen glands and ear pain. I have been doing this for a good 3 years now. It has become part of my morning routine, brush the teeth, and water pik the tonsils LOL. I think the ENT meant keep the area clean, just by what I am doing. He is the one that suggested this. Makes my Dentist happy also, cause I also do in between my teeth every morning. It works wonders for me, and being in my mid 40's, my ENT was really serious about having the tonsils out would have a very bad effect on me. He basically refused to do it. I used to use a Q tip, and that was painful and made my tonsils bleed. This actually feels good, maybe cause I know my breath doesn't have that awful stench. No more breath mints constantly.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
ºOº
I fill the reservior cup of the water pic with warmish water, and add about 1/4 of the cup with either cepacol or listerine. I have mastered getting the tip of the water pik, (without gagging) at the lowest setting, way back into the opening of my tonsils and irrigate the hole. I also pull the area open with the tip of the water pik to make sure all the area gets flushed. It takes practice, but believe me, it is worth it not to have the bad breath, and the ill feeling of swollen glands and ear pain. I have been doing this for a good 3 years now. It has become part of my morning routine, brush the teeth, and water pik the tonsils LOL. I think the ENT meant keep the area clean, just by what I am doing. He is the one that suggested this. Makes my Dentist happy also, cause I also do in between my teeth every morning. It works wonders for me, and being in my mid 40's, my ENT was really serious about having the tonsils out would have a very bad effect on me. He basically refused to do it. I used to use a Q tip, and that was painful and made my tonsils bleed. This actually feels good, maybe cause I know my breath doesn't have that awful stench. No more breath mints constantly.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
ºOº
Angelus
06-08-2003, 10:16 PM
I have this same problem... I'm 16, I've had it for about 2 years or so now. I thought I was the only one who had it (as did many of you evidently) Well, any way, I want to do something about it, but I can't just go to the doctor. I'm a little embarrased to explain this to my mom (since it's not known widespread I would have to say something like "Oh by the way mom? I have this white crap that forms in my tonsils, they're called tonsil stones, I want to go to the doctor about it") So what should I do?
I can't just go to the doctor on my own. So how should I explain it to my mom? Your help is appreciated, thanks.
I can't just go to the doctor on my own. So how should I explain it to my mom? Your help is appreciated, thanks.
Marie79
06-13-2003, 04:24 AM
I had my tonsils removed a year and a half ago. It was one of the best things I ever did for myself!
My tonsils were swollen up so huge that they were actually touching each other in the back of my throat. I had lost tons of weight due to the difficulty in just swallowing food. I Constantly had bad breath (horrible in the mornings!), and had difficulty breathing when laying down and trying to sleep at night.
I will not lie, the surgery was EXTREMELY painful. I couldn't talk above a whisper for a week, I couldn't eat or drink barely anything (lost even more weight). The pain meds made me throw up all night the first night, and when you get your tonsils out, the Last thing you want to be doing is throwing up! It was so painful that I went off the pain meds, and then the REAL pain from the surgery set in. Ouch!!
But I will tell you, it was all worth it! I no longer have huge touching tonsils, I can swallow my food, I can breathe better now (!), I no longer have the white dots that I could pick off with tweezers, and best of all, I never have bad breath anymore!!! It was so painful, but worth it.
My tonsils were swollen up so huge that they were actually touching each other in the back of my throat. I had lost tons of weight due to the difficulty in just swallowing food. I Constantly had bad breath (horrible in the mornings!), and had difficulty breathing when laying down and trying to sleep at night.
I will not lie, the surgery was EXTREMELY painful. I couldn't talk above a whisper for a week, I couldn't eat or drink barely anything (lost even more weight). The pain meds made me throw up all night the first night, and when you get your tonsils out, the Last thing you want to be doing is throwing up! It was so painful that I went off the pain meds, and then the REAL pain from the surgery set in. Ouch!!
But I will tell you, it was all worth it! I no longer have huge touching tonsils, I can swallow my food, I can breathe better now (!), I no longer have the white dots that I could pick off with tweezers, and best of all, I never have bad breath anymore!!! It was so painful, but worth it.
Marie79
06-13-2003, 04:25 AM
I had my tonsils removed a year and a half ago. It was one of the best things I ever did for myself!
My tonsils were swollen up so huge that they were actually touching each other in the back of my throat. I had lost tons of weight due to the difficulty in just swallowing food. I Constantly had bad breath (horrible in the mornings!), and had difficulty breathing when laying down and trying to sleep at night.
I will not lie, the surgery was EXTREMELY painful. I couldn't talk above a whisper for a week, I couldn't eat or drink barely anything (lost even more weight). The pain meds made me throw up all night the first night, and when you get your tonsils out, the Last thing you want to be doing is throwing up! It was so painful that I went off the pain meds, and then the REAL pain from the surgery set in. Ouch!!
But I will tell you, it was all worth it! I no longer have huge touching tonsils, I can swallow my food, I can breathe better now (!), I no longer have the white dots that I could pick off with tweezers, and best of all, I never have bad breath anymore!!! It was so painful, but worth it.
My tonsils were swollen up so huge that they were actually touching each other in the back of my throat. I had lost tons of weight due to the difficulty in just swallowing food. I Constantly had bad breath (horrible in the mornings!), and had difficulty breathing when laying down and trying to sleep at night.
I will not lie, the surgery was EXTREMELY painful. I couldn't talk above a whisper for a week, I couldn't eat or drink barely anything (lost even more weight). The pain meds made me throw up all night the first night, and when you get your tonsils out, the Last thing you want to be doing is throwing up! It was so painful that I went off the pain meds, and then the REAL pain from the surgery set in. Ouch!!
But I will tell you, it was all worth it! I no longer have huge touching tonsils, I can swallow my food, I can breathe better now (!), I no longer have the white dots that I could pick off with tweezers, and best of all, I never have bad breath anymore!!! It was so painful, but worth it.
JennieBlue
06-14-2003, 02:56 AM
Hello.
I am sorry to hear that you do not feel comfortable telling your mother about your condition.
I suggest that you try some of the steps others have mentioned on this board and then discuss your problem with your mom.
Start off by telling her how long you've experienced the problems, how having this problem makes you feel, what you've done to fix the problem and how you've taken the time to research the problem.
Hopefully she understands your concern and gets you in to see an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist (ENT).
As for myself, I too have this problem. I went to see an ENT about two years ago and he numbed my nose and throat by placing an instrument in my nose that squirted out a highly pressurized local anesthetic (it didn't really hurt, but it felt very weird). Then he used a little scope/camera to see what he could find. The doctor said he couldn't find anything. I knew they were there. But, he basically told me I didn’t have a problem.
It took a lot of guts to go see that doctor and when I found out there was nothing he could do I was upset and frustrated because I was able to recognize that I had a problem.
Anyhow, I still have the problem. I do not want my tonsils removed...although that has been suggested; I haven't taken it into consideration. OUCH!
Like others, I am able to cough them up. One of my tricks is to use a little water tube that sprays water out at a direct/sharp angle (I got it when I had my wisdom teeth removed- ask your dentist for one). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I notice that I have more problems with the tonsiloliths when I eat certain foods, especially bread and ground pepper or other coarse spices. I notice that when I am able to remove a tonsilolith and I've recently eaten something with ground pepper, the middle of the tonsilolith will be solid and look like ground pepper (or whatever spice).
I agree with other people that this problem is probably related to post nasal drip. I have tried many products to rid myself of that problem. I haven't had any luck. Ever since I began to experience postnasal drip I've had tonsiloliths.
I hope that they go away.
I found a website that contains a product to help with tonsiloliths. Since I cannot post the product name or website, I suggest that you go to yahoo.com and look up information on it.
I haven't tried the products, but am thinking of trying the nasal drops (because they are supposed to target tonsiloliths).
Good luck. Please don't feel embarrassed to tell your mother about medical problems- compared to other problems you may come into contact with in the future-THIS is MINOR!
GOOD LUCK!
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I am sorry to hear that you do not feel comfortable telling your mother about your condition.
I suggest that you try some of the steps others have mentioned on this board and then discuss your problem with your mom.
Start off by telling her how long you've experienced the problems, how having this problem makes you feel, what you've done to fix the problem and how you've taken the time to research the problem.
Hopefully she understands your concern and gets you in to see an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist (ENT).
As for myself, I too have this problem. I went to see an ENT about two years ago and he numbed my nose and throat by placing an instrument in my nose that squirted out a highly pressurized local anesthetic (it didn't really hurt, but it felt very weird). Then he used a little scope/camera to see what he could find. The doctor said he couldn't find anything. I knew they were there. But, he basically told me I didn’t have a problem.
It took a lot of guts to go see that doctor and when I found out there was nothing he could do I was upset and frustrated because I was able to recognize that I had a problem.
Anyhow, I still have the problem. I do not want my tonsils removed...although that has been suggested; I haven't taken it into consideration. OUCH!
Like others, I am able to cough them up. One of my tricks is to use a little water tube that sprays water out at a direct/sharp angle (I got it when I had my wisdom teeth removed- ask your dentist for one). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I notice that I have more problems with the tonsiloliths when I eat certain foods, especially bread and ground pepper or other coarse spices. I notice that when I am able to remove a tonsilolith and I've recently eaten something with ground pepper, the middle of the tonsilolith will be solid and look like ground pepper (or whatever spice).
I agree with other people that this problem is probably related to post nasal drip. I have tried many products to rid myself of that problem. I haven't had any luck. Ever since I began to experience postnasal drip I've had tonsiloliths.
I hope that they go away.
I found a website that contains a product to help with tonsiloliths. Since I cannot post the product name or website, I suggest that you go to yahoo.com and look up information on it.
I haven't tried the products, but am thinking of trying the nasal drops (because they are supposed to target tonsiloliths).
Good luck. Please don't feel embarrassed to tell your mother about medical problems- compared to other problems you may come into contact with in the future-THIS is MINOR!
GOOD LUCK!
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Marie79
06-14-2003, 03:34 AM
JennieBlue,
I too saw two different doctors who told me I didn't have a problem with my tonsils (and they were so large they were touching each other in the back of my throat!).
I KNEW that I had a problem and tonsils that big couldn't be just nothing. I went and saw a third doctor who, when I opened my mouth, said "Holy S---!" She then immediately apologized for her comment, explaining that doctors are not supposed to have that type of reaction in front of patients! I told her I was glad to hear that somebody finally agreed that I had a problem!
That third doctor referred me to an ENT (a fourth doctor by that point) who was very nice and felt I had wasted enough time (6 mos by that point) and scheduled my tonsillectomy on the spot. Having the surgery was so worth it, I don't have any of these problems any more!
I too saw two different doctors who told me I didn't have a problem with my tonsils (and they were so large they were touching each other in the back of my throat!).
I KNEW that I had a problem and tonsils that big couldn't be just nothing. I went and saw a third doctor who, when I opened my mouth, said "Holy S---!" She then immediately apologized for her comment, explaining that doctors are not supposed to have that type of reaction in front of patients! I told her I was glad to hear that somebody finally agreed that I had a problem!
That third doctor referred me to an ENT (a fourth doctor by that point) who was very nice and felt I had wasted enough time (6 mos by that point) and scheduled my tonsillectomy on the spot. Having the surgery was so worth it, I don't have any of these problems any more!
JennieBlue
06-14-2003, 01:56 PM
Hey Marie,
I'm also from northern CA. Doctors have suggested that I have my tonsils removed, but I really don't want to.
At this point, I am still at a standstill. I am thinking of trying the threabreath products and see where it takes me.
I hate having this problem. I have had the same significant other for about 5 years now and about 1-2 years into our relationship I started to have this problem. It has been extremely embarassing and I feel awful. It's hard for me to even bring myself to kiss! *SIGH*. Threabreath here I come.
I'm also from northern CA. Doctors have suggested that I have my tonsils removed, but I really don't want to.
At this point, I am still at a standstill. I am thinking of trying the threabreath products and see where it takes me.
I hate having this problem. I have had the same significant other for about 5 years now and about 1-2 years into our relationship I started to have this problem. It has been extremely embarassing and I feel awful. It's hard for me to even bring myself to kiss! *SIGH*. Threabreath here I come.
Marie79
06-14-2003, 10:32 PM
Jennie,
Are your tonsils enlarged at all? Or do you only have problems with the tonsiloliths and bad breath?
The same thing happened to me with my ex-boyfriend. He was the one that told me I had bad breath and that was why he didn't want to kiss me anymore! I was so humiliated.
I know the fear of the pain is scaring you away from the tonsillectomy. But if you don't get it done, you will likely have this embarassing problem for the rest of your life. Do you always want to feel self-conscious? After 2 weeks, the pain was almost gone for me.
Are your tonsils enlarged at all? Or do you only have problems with the tonsiloliths and bad breath?
The same thing happened to me with my ex-boyfriend. He was the one that told me I had bad breath and that was why he didn't want to kiss me anymore! I was so humiliated.
I know the fear of the pain is scaring you away from the tonsillectomy. But if you don't get it done, you will likely have this embarassing problem for the rest of your life. Do you always want to feel self-conscious? After 2 weeks, the pain was almost gone for me.
A-Girl
06-27-2003, 10:28 AM
First, if that Thera product works, please let all of us know. I am 26, and recently developed Tonsil Stones. I just got them in April. At first, I thought they were coughed up from my lungs, but later I discovered that I was wrong. I have no idea how I developed them. I went to see TWO ENT doctors. One doctor told me that I should just live with them because surgery is so painful. The other doctor told me, I will have to live with them, because insurance companies consider this a cosmetic surgery and would not pay for the tonsillectomy (I guess Health Companies may be the Doctor after all - since they decided my fate is to suffer with Tonsil Stones). Although the ENT agrees that they are a nuisance. If I experience infections then it would be grounds for removal of the tonsils, according to the ENT. I never get any throat infections, only sore throats. I want my tonsils removed. I use the Water Pik, Q-Tips, self-gagging method, coughing, etc, and NOTHING works. I can barely see mine and when I do, it is only because I am making a weird face and then they hide again. It is horrible. I cannot think of living out the rest of my life with this. At times, (to say the least)... Most of the time, I get a low-grade sore throat because they are so irritating. I even got a sinus cold and literally felt them in my throat, but could not get them out. I still feel them this very second and every time I swallow. I am envious of all of you that can "pop" them out. I would live with that, but I cannot live with Tonsil Stones, because mine do not pop out. When one finally does (after two weeks), I think there is a line of them waiting to come out, in addition. Again, I ocassionally get a glimpse of them on both tonsils. I have no idea why or how this happened. If anyone is successful by other means of surgery, I will definately pursue it. I am deathly afraid of a Tonsillectomy. The pain that people write about is horrific. I can deal with a bad sore throat and not eating, but I cannot imagine, razor-like feeling in the back of my throat. I have very small tonsils, but the ENT said, that does not matter. Plus I am allergic to Codeine. Does anyone else out there have any solid advice. I want to find out more about Laser Surgery and just scraping the surface of the tonsil so that there are no more pockets. I think Flonase caused this to me.
Enfys
06-28-2003, 11:46 PM
Well... imagine my surprise at finding this message board while looking up "quincy" through Google. What I thought was an unusual condition and what my doctor told me (as some other's doctors have) must have been food impacted in my tonsil, turns out to be much more common than I would have ever thought. I had a "tonsil stone" or whatever you like to call it on my right tonsil this morning... I say "had" because just since I started reading these posts, I've apparently coughed it out... just took another look and it's gone now. It had been there for the last three days and I'd been keeping an eye on it to see just how big it would get. When my fiance caught me looking at my throat in the mirror and asked what I was doing, it was difficult to explain about these "things" I've been having come out of my tonsils for years now so I did a search to try to show him I'm not nuts.
My sister and I have had these nasty-smelling little buggers for years and years (I'm 46, she's 43) and when they first started we both thought, as some of you did, we were coughing them up from somewhere deeper inside... maybe from down in our throat. Neither one of us could imagine what they could be but since we both had them, we figured it couldn't be all that serious.
A few years ago, however, I had a VERY sore throat... it had been sore for about 2 days so I took a look to see what was going on and, as the one woman's doctor put it, "Holy S***!!!"... what was that THING sticking out of my left tonsil? It was my first glimpse at a tonsil stone/tonsolith/whatever. Over the course of the next two days it got bigger and bigger. I let my sis take a look at it and her response was to jump back (literally!) and ask "what the H*** is THAT?". LOL... my thought exactly. Being my usual optimistic self, I immediately made an appointment for the next day with my regular MD so he could tell me I had throat cancer. Wouldn't you know it... during the night part of it came out (I have NO idea what happened to it... swallowed, perhaps... ick!). No biggie, I thought... there's still enough left poking out of my tonsil to show my doctor I have cancer (yep, I'm an optomist, alright!). During the morning before my appointment, a coughing fit comes over me... wham, bam, what's left of the stone flies out of my tonsil and into my hand (can we say "ugh"?). I run to the bathroom and take a look... nothing left but a big GAPING hole in my tonsil. Ok, fine... still good evidence that I had a tumor in my tonsil, right? Wrong! By the time I got to the doctor's office later that day, the hole had nearly closed up. "It must have been impacted food", he says, after giving me that "she's clearly out of her mind" look. I just looked back at him and said nothing. Maybe it wasn't a tumor after all, but I KNOW it's not impacted food! Food? I still have my doubts on that theory but finally I'd discovered just exactly where those hard little thingies I'd been coughing "up" for years were coming from. I still have problems with them. I also have many of the problem lots of you folks have described... a hard time breathing through my nose (hence, I'm a mouth breather), chronic postnasal drip/drainage/whatever, throat sore more often than not, tonsils constantly swollen and inflamed.
I've gone on and on here, haven't I? LOL... sorry, just wanted to tell my story and say I've read every single post in here and as soon as I get married (at which time I'll have medical insurance), I plan to get myself to an ENT and have something done about this... I don't know what, but something WILL be done. I'm sick of the constant sore throat, drip, swollen tonsils, etc. In the meantime, I'm going to look into getting a Waterpic... it seems from some of the posts, that trying to keep my tonsils cleaned out will be a big help. Thanks to everyone for your input and good luck... maybe we can all get some help of some kind eventually.
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My sister and I have had these nasty-smelling little buggers for years and years (I'm 46, she's 43) and when they first started we both thought, as some of you did, we were coughing them up from somewhere deeper inside... maybe from down in our throat. Neither one of us could imagine what they could be but since we both had them, we figured it couldn't be all that serious.
A few years ago, however, I had a VERY sore throat... it had been sore for about 2 days so I took a look to see what was going on and, as the one woman's doctor put it, "Holy S***!!!"... what was that THING sticking out of my left tonsil? It was my first glimpse at a tonsil stone/tonsolith/whatever. Over the course of the next two days it got bigger and bigger. I let my sis take a look at it and her response was to jump back (literally!) and ask "what the H*** is THAT?". LOL... my thought exactly. Being my usual optimistic self, I immediately made an appointment for the next day with my regular MD so he could tell me I had throat cancer. Wouldn't you know it... during the night part of it came out (I have NO idea what happened to it... swallowed, perhaps... ick!). No biggie, I thought... there's still enough left poking out of my tonsil to show my doctor I have cancer (yep, I'm an optomist, alright!). During the morning before my appointment, a coughing fit comes over me... wham, bam, what's left of the stone flies out of my tonsil and into my hand (can we say "ugh"?). I run to the bathroom and take a look... nothing left but a big GAPING hole in my tonsil. Ok, fine... still good evidence that I had a tumor in my tonsil, right? Wrong! By the time I got to the doctor's office later that day, the hole had nearly closed up. "It must have been impacted food", he says, after giving me that "she's clearly out of her mind" look. I just looked back at him and said nothing. Maybe it wasn't a tumor after all, but I KNOW it's not impacted food! Food? I still have my doubts on that theory but finally I'd discovered just exactly where those hard little thingies I'd been coughing "up" for years were coming from. I still have problems with them. I also have many of the problem lots of you folks have described... a hard time breathing through my nose (hence, I'm a mouth breather), chronic postnasal drip/drainage/whatever, throat sore more often than not, tonsils constantly swollen and inflamed.
I've gone on and on here, haven't I? LOL... sorry, just wanted to tell my story and say I've read every single post in here and as soon as I get married (at which time I'll have medical insurance), I plan to get myself to an ENT and have something done about this... I don't know what, but something WILL be done. I'm sick of the constant sore throat, drip, swollen tonsils, etc. In the meantime, I'm going to look into getting a Waterpic... it seems from some of the posts, that trying to keep my tonsils cleaned out will be a big help. Thanks to everyone for your input and good luck... maybe we can all get some help of some kind eventually.
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Grrrrrrrr
07-04-2003, 05:45 AM
Wow, I'm amazed at how popular this message board is.
I too have been fighting the endless battle with these nasty 'tonsil stones'. My removal method of choice has been sqeezing them out with my fingers and lots of gargling with listerine. (Luckily my hands are small enough to reach back there.) However, that Waterpic sounds like a really good idea. I think I'll go buy one this weekend and add it to my daily tonsil-picking ritual.
Anyhoo, my question for you all is this... Does anyone have any idea if other people can smell these rancid things on our breath?? If I knew somebody else could catch even the slightest whiff of these nasty things, I don't think I'd leave my house! My boyfriend told me that most of the time he can't smell them, but he could just be being polite. I'm curious if anyone else has gotten any confirmation from a trusted friend!
Thanx for the all the stories!
~Tara
[This message has been edited by Grrrrrrrr (edited 07-04-2003).]
I too have been fighting the endless battle with these nasty 'tonsil stones'. My removal method of choice has been sqeezing them out with my fingers and lots of gargling with listerine. (Luckily my hands are small enough to reach back there.) However, that Waterpic sounds like a really good idea. I think I'll go buy one this weekend and add it to my daily tonsil-picking ritual.
Anyhoo, my question for you all is this... Does anyone have any idea if other people can smell these rancid things on our breath?? If I knew somebody else could catch even the slightest whiff of these nasty things, I don't think I'd leave my house! My boyfriend told me that most of the time he can't smell them, but he could just be being polite. I'm curious if anyone else has gotten any confirmation from a trusted friend!
Thanx for the all the stories!
~Tara
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platinum3kt
07-09-2003, 12:18 PM
Just wanted to respond to the previous message, I'm sure if someone is close enough to you they would be able to smell your breathe. Which is why I always chew gum or keep some powereful meant in my purse. Lately, the tonsil stones have gotten worse. Just yesterday, they not only showed up in the pockets of my throat, but they were also behind the Uvula (you know the thing that dangles in the back of your mouth). This morning my throat is aching, I'm not sure if its becuz there are more or becuz I was picking at my tonsils. I definitely plan to use the waterpik. I also so advertising for some mouthwash and oxygen tablets that are supposed to decrease nasal drip and bacteria causing the tonsil stones. Its amazing that this topic has been going on for almost a year!!!
mwilliamryan
07-09-2003, 03:49 PM
Hi everyone, I've never been on this site before, but I was doing a search for "tonsil stones" on google and came across this board. So glad I did. Knowing other people are suffering through this same crap makes me feel better already. I had a huge tonsil stone when I was an adolescent and was able to show it to a doctor. The doc knocked it out and I can't remember what he said. I think I was just relieved it was gone. I didn't have them (or notice them) again until I was in my early 20s. Seems to have been right around the time I started having post-nasal drip. Since that time, I've had all sorts of sinus, ear and throat problems. I always thought the problem was somehow connected to my ears because of the itchiness that some other people have mentioned. I seem to get one really bad sinus infection per year, (I am recovering from this year's right now.) After all the reading I have been doing, I think the bacteria building up in my tonsils may be contributing to my susceptibility to the sinus infections. Anyway, I too have made a habit of trying to press these buggers out before they get too big or annoying. However, I'm never sure if I'm getting the whole thing or just runts from something more ominous. I do get some relief by doing this, but more are always on the way. I can always tell if I have one building up because of the low-grade sore throat that other people have mentioned. These stones combined with post nasal drip have made life somewhat miserable, as I'm sure you all know. I am now dedicated to finding a way to have better tonsil health. I have ordered some therabreath ClO2 nasal drops and tablets. Don't know if this will work or if it is false hope, but as you know the promise of getting rid of these things will make you do just about anything. I'm also going out today to buy a water pik and try cleansing my divots that way. As for having your tonsils removed, I have a question: Is the only reason that this procedure is not recommended for adults because of the ensuing pain? Or are there other risks or things that can go wrong? Just wondering because I haven't read any messages from people who had their tonsils removed that said they wished they hadn't.
nikki303
07-09-2003, 06:45 PM
I wrote a little over a month ago on this message board about having my tonsils removed. I had a bit of a tough time at first, and about 8 days after my surgery my throat began to bleed. It bled on and off over days 8 and 9 post-op and by day 10 (The day I was supposed to return to work), the bleeding wouldn't stop. I was rushed to the ER and the doc used silver nitrate on my throat which is similar to cauterizing. The bleeding stopped and never returned. At my post-op dr. appt., he told me that the severe bleeding that I experienced only happens to 2 percent of the people. It has now been almost 6 weeks since my surgery and I feel great!
Before, I was constantly look in and digging at my throat. Now I hardly even look in there.
There was pain involved, especially being an adult, but I am so glad I had it done. It was well worth it!
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Before, I was constantly look in and digging at my throat. Now I hardly even look in there.
There was pain involved, especially being an adult, but I am so glad I had it done. It was well worth it!
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Mook
07-10-2003, 08:40 AM
Heh, I found this forum by typing "hard yellow throat" into Google on a whim, lol. I't's quite surprising to find that this is such a common thing and so unrecognised in the medical profession.
Unlike most here I dont disslike my 'stinkballs' all that much. Sure they cause the occasional swelling and smell like pungent death but I think I'd miss those cute little nuggets of vile if they ever dissappeared perminantly. After all, what better way to liven up a dull party than to violently hock up a quivering, 3lb khaki specimen on the nearest coffee table. :bouncing:
Hmmm... perhaps not, but dont you think having your tonsils removed is going a bit far? Surely there must be some small surgical procedure to stop the post-nasal-thingy, thereby halting the production of tonsil stones.
Apart from the old finger squeezing method, I find that trying to suck the throat or tonsils into your mouth removes them relatively easily, I havent had any new ones for well over a year after using this method so maybe the method could help some others to clear them.
Somewhere on the net, I saw mentioned a tonsil stone "the size of a large grape". The doctor, in reply, consistently mentioned the chance of tonsil cancer in relation to the size of the stone. Anyone getting very large stones should perhaps take the mention of this into account.
Btw, I once kept a large stone aside for some reason. When I looked at it an hour later, it had turned into a small brown crystal! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/confused.gif
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Save the stinkball!!
Unlike most here I dont disslike my 'stinkballs' all that much. Sure they cause the occasional swelling and smell like pungent death but I think I'd miss those cute little nuggets of vile if they ever dissappeared perminantly. After all, what better way to liven up a dull party than to violently hock up a quivering, 3lb khaki specimen on the nearest coffee table. :bouncing:
Hmmm... perhaps not, but dont you think having your tonsils removed is going a bit far? Surely there must be some small surgical procedure to stop the post-nasal-thingy, thereby halting the production of tonsil stones.
Apart from the old finger squeezing method, I find that trying to suck the throat or tonsils into your mouth removes them relatively easily, I havent had any new ones for well over a year after using this method so maybe the method could help some others to clear them.
Somewhere on the net, I saw mentioned a tonsil stone "the size of a large grape". The doctor, in reply, consistently mentioned the chance of tonsil cancer in relation to the size of the stone. Anyone getting very large stones should perhaps take the mention of this into account.
Btw, I once kept a large stone aside for some reason. When I looked at it an hour later, it had turned into a small brown crystal! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/confused.gif
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Save the stinkball!!
mwilliamryan
07-10-2003, 08:35 PM
Well, I don't believe this! I went out and bought a WaterPik today. I got home ripped it out of the box, mixed some Listerine with warm water and gave it a whirl. First of all, this is way harder than I thought it would be. If you have any kind of gag reflex you're going to have problems. I had the thing on the lowest setting and its spraying out of my mouth and every which way, all over the mirror, my shirt, the floor. I couldn't really see where I was aiming so it's all kind of by feel and just when I get back to where I think my tonsil is, I gag. This is definitely going to take some practice, I'm thinking.
See, my problem has always been that my left tonsil is always a little hard and sore even if I don't have any stones and I've always figured that something has been blocked up in there. (It gets stones way more often than the right tonsil.) But I never wanted to press on the thing too hard for fear of injuring myself. But you know I'm kind of in this frenzy like I feel like I'm onto something. So I take out the tongue-cleaning tip for the WaterPik and try using that because it kind of deflects the spray a bit. Low and behold, I'm able to get that back on my tonsil opening for a bit, I have a few gags and then I have the MOTHER of all gags and the most putrid brownish-black slime comes pouring out of my mouth. No kidding. Sorry if I'm grossing you out, but I've never been so disgusted and so ecstatic at the very same time in my entire life. This crap has to be the remnants of some kind of infection that's been hanging on up there for sometime now. Unfortunately, the slime slides down the drain before I can really examine it. If I'd known that was going to happen, I would have had the drain shut so I could donate it to science. Oh well. I don't know if I got all that was up there, but it's definitely a start. For the first time that I can remember, I can swallow and not feel pressure or weirdness in my left ear. This has got to be one of the happiest days of my life. I think cleaning and disinfecting these areas just might be the ticket. I'm going to stick with it until it's second nature. Luck to all!
See, my problem has always been that my left tonsil is always a little hard and sore even if I don't have any stones and I've always figured that something has been blocked up in there. (It gets stones way more often than the right tonsil.) But I never wanted to press on the thing too hard for fear of injuring myself. But you know I'm kind of in this frenzy like I feel like I'm onto something. So I take out the tongue-cleaning tip for the WaterPik and try using that because it kind of deflects the spray a bit. Low and behold, I'm able to get that back on my tonsil opening for a bit, I have a few gags and then I have the MOTHER of all gags and the most putrid brownish-black slime comes pouring out of my mouth. No kidding. Sorry if I'm grossing you out, but I've never been so disgusted and so ecstatic at the very same time in my entire life. This crap has to be the remnants of some kind of infection that's been hanging on up there for sometime now. Unfortunately, the slime slides down the drain before I can really examine it. If I'd known that was going to happen, I would have had the drain shut so I could donate it to science. Oh well. I don't know if I got all that was up there, but it's definitely a start. For the first time that I can remember, I can swallow and not feel pressure or weirdness in my left ear. This has got to be one of the happiest days of my life. I think cleaning and disinfecting these areas just might be the ticket. I'm going to stick with it until it's second nature. Luck to all!
moocow35
07-10-2003, 09:59 PM
I have been using the water pik daily for years. Yes, it does take practice, but after a while you can just stick the tip of the water pik into the opening, and stretch the opening so to get into all the little areas. Believe me, when I get lazy (usually on the weekends) and don't use the water pik, I start to get that same old "sick" feeling. Ear pain, throat pain, gland pain, and I always find a little stone in there. I'm glad you are happy with it. Stick with it, it really makes this situation completely manageable.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
texann
07-11-2003, 03:47 PM
YAHOOOOO! I'm not alone! Today for the first time, I signed on to this site to research another topic. Quite to my surprise I found this message board, talking about something I thought I was the only person in the world who had.
I saw my first tonsilolith when I was a teenager and thought it was a piece of food. The next time I saw one was many years later. I was preparing to go to the doctor to have it checked out, but noticed after I ate lunch it was gone. I talked to the doctor about it with pretty much the same results as most of you have had. He didn’t really seem to know what it was. He said (as he put it) milking them out probably wouldn’t hurt anything. I have been doing that ever since. I find it embarrassing and I have never told anyone including my husband about it.
As a child I had chronic tonsil problems, but never had them removed. Most of my adult life I have suffered with sinus infections and post-nasal drip from allergies.
I feel totally liberated after reading all of your messages. I’m going to check out the water-pik method and the other products mentioned. Thank God for an answer!
I saw my first tonsilolith when I was a teenager and thought it was a piece of food. The next time I saw one was many years later. I was preparing to go to the doctor to have it checked out, but noticed after I ate lunch it was gone. I talked to the doctor about it with pretty much the same results as most of you have had. He didn’t really seem to know what it was. He said (as he put it) milking them out probably wouldn’t hurt anything. I have been doing that ever since. I find it embarrassing and I have never told anyone including my husband about it.
As a child I had chronic tonsil problems, but never had them removed. Most of my adult life I have suffered with sinus infections and post-nasal drip from allergies.
I feel totally liberated after reading all of your messages. I’m going to check out the water-pik method and the other products mentioned. Thank God for an answer!
Airwave
07-12-2003, 03:07 AM
Hi I am so glad I stumbled onto this board. I have suffered with a tonsil stone on my right tonsil not knowing what it was. When I open my mouth you cn se his white pulse ball that has been in my mouth for the last ten months. I keep reading that some of you have had yours to fall off I have not. I hve sharp pain in the back of my throat, popping n my ears, itching ears and ear pain. Sometimes I have difficulty in swallowing
and consant clearin of the throat. I wouldlike o ask has any one had long periods of laryngitis and weak vocal cords. Also a very hoarse voice. Because I have acid reflux my ENT thinks this is the cause of my voice being weak. Does anyone else find this to be happening because of the tonsil stones. However at age 39 I have decided tohave my tonsils taken out because of the constant throat infections and soreness.Will tell you about the outcome of the surgery soon.
and consant clearin of the throat. I wouldlike o ask has any one had long periods of laryngitis and weak vocal cords. Also a very hoarse voice. Because I have acid reflux my ENT thinks this is the cause of my voice being weak. Does anyone else find this to be happening because of the tonsil stones. However at age 39 I have decided tohave my tonsils taken out because of the constant throat infections and soreness.Will tell you about the outcome of the surgery soon.
candycandy
07-12-2003, 01:14 PM
I'm currently suffering from the worst sore throat of my life, and tonsils that are riddled with junk. As annoying as this is, I'm relieved that they neither smell nor make me itch. Well, they might smell, but I haven't noticed, and I've honestly never put one up to my nose.
After reading almost all these messages (man, there are a lot of us, aren't there?) I want to make an appointment NOW but it's 6am and I don't think Kaiser is open. What is an ENT anyway? I'll probably go to sleep and the answer will hit me, then I'll feel dumb. But just in case it doesn't, someone please tell me what it is! I wonder if Kaiser provides that sort of thing... I had a cyst on my wrist and a Kaiser representative told me that in the past, people would slam them with a book to burst them.
Anyway, getting back to the tonsil-junk...
When I was 8, I was hospitalized for a week because I couldn't swallow and had a hard time breathing. I couldn't eat, and had IVs stuck in me and moved around from hand to arm to other hand and so on because my veins got weak. When it was over, a doctor came in and asked me if I wanted my tonsils taken out. My parents weren't in the room to help me decide, so of course I said "no." I don't know, did he expect me to say "Ooh, yes! Please take a scalpel and cut the inside of my throat!"? I was only 8. I've regretted that ever since. Now I have recurring throat-balls.
I'm totally irked because I'm 30 and I've already had enough surgery (wisdom teeth, c-section, etc) and I want these stupid tonsils OUT!!!
Coughing and hacking doesn't seem to jog them loose. For me, it's sort of a gagging thing that actually makes me gag sometimes. I've never used a cotton swab, but I have used bamboo shish-kebab skewers and fingernails.
UGH I can feel them right now by rubbing my tongue up and down back there...
After reading almost all these messages (man, there are a lot of us, aren't there?) I want to make an appointment NOW but it's 6am and I don't think Kaiser is open. What is an ENT anyway? I'll probably go to sleep and the answer will hit me, then I'll feel dumb. But just in case it doesn't, someone please tell me what it is! I wonder if Kaiser provides that sort of thing... I had a cyst on my wrist and a Kaiser representative told me that in the past, people would slam them with a book to burst them.
Anyway, getting back to the tonsil-junk...
When I was 8, I was hospitalized for a week because I couldn't swallow and had a hard time breathing. I couldn't eat, and had IVs stuck in me and moved around from hand to arm to other hand and so on because my veins got weak. When it was over, a doctor came in and asked me if I wanted my tonsils taken out. My parents weren't in the room to help me decide, so of course I said "no." I don't know, did he expect me to say "Ooh, yes! Please take a scalpel and cut the inside of my throat!"? I was only 8. I've regretted that ever since. Now I have recurring throat-balls.
I'm totally irked because I'm 30 and I've already had enough surgery (wisdom teeth, c-section, etc) and I want these stupid tonsils OUT!!!
Coughing and hacking doesn't seem to jog them loose. For me, it's sort of a gagging thing that actually makes me gag sometimes. I've never used a cotton swab, but I have used bamboo shish-kebab skewers and fingernails.
UGH I can feel them right now by rubbing my tongue up and down back there...
candycandy
07-12-2003, 01:20 PM
HAH! Ear Nose and Throat... I knew it'd hit me!!! An ENT visited me in the hospital, but all he did was give me something that cleared my nose and when I drank milk, it trickled down onto my bed tray and I didn't know where it was coming from.
candycandy
07-13-2003, 06:01 AM
I got one of these plastic syringe thingies from my oral surgeon when my wisdoms were pulled (Someone mentioned it earlier, I think it was JennieBlue). It's from a brand called Monoject (at least that's what it says on the thing), and it pretty much looks like something you'd get an injection with, but instead of a needle, there's a pointy plastic tip. Which is probably more of a hassle than a water pik.
But it was FREE. :)
But it was FREE. :)
drknow
07-13-2003, 01:01 PM
Did ChristinaD ever get her tonsils out? This topic is like a novel!!! (p.s. had my tonsils out at 10 yrs. old and then it was painful but worth it!~.)
mwilliamryan
07-13-2003, 01:42 PM
Question for moocow35:
What brand and model water pick do you have? I have the Waterpik brand Personal Oral Cleaning System. Even on the lowest setting, it seems too powerful. If it hits right on my tonsil, it can be painful. Do you know of a kinder, gentler pick? Or have any technique suggestions? I wonder if they make higher-flow tips for less jet velocity?
What brand and model water pick do you have? I have the Waterpik brand Personal Oral Cleaning System. Even on the lowest setting, it seems too powerful. If it hits right on my tonsil, it can be painful. Do you know of a kinder, gentler pick? Or have any technique suggestions? I wonder if they make higher-flow tips for less jet velocity?
moocow35
07-13-2003, 03:30 PM
I have the Conair Interplak waterpik. It only comes with one type of attachment, and on low it doesn't bother me. Maybe I am just used to it? My technique is put the curved end of the attachment way back into the opening of the tonsil. I pull the opening apart gently with the tip to try to get any small cracks where the stones could be hiding, or any trapped food.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
marcen
07-13-2003, 06:23 PM
Well I first read this topic about 2 months ago and was pretty shocked...I had never heard of such a thing and I am studying medicine! Then, lo and behold, about 3 weeks ago I had an awful taste in my mouth. I had had a sore throat for about a week or so and suddenly this bad taste that wouldn't go away. I don't know if it made my breath bad or not, but everytime I swallowed the taste was awful. Then I rememebered reading about this and so as soon as I got home I looked. At first I didn't see anything and then later I checked again and saw a tiny speck on one tonsil...I immediately set out to destroy it and out came a huge tonsil stone!!!! To this day I am so disgusted...well my sore throat was a bit better. I got all these mouth washes including a peroxyl one that was supposed to help and I was so afraid of having bad breath. Unfortunately, a few days later I found another small stone in the other tonsil. I also noticed that my throat was still sore everyday and that the coating on my tongue was thicker than is normal...went to the doctor for a swab...nothing showed up. By this time, I knew I had a form of thrush in my mouth that was causing the sore throat and the stones ( I study western medicine but have an interest in alternative). I went to the healthfood store and bought a bottle of grapefruit seed extract (GSE) that I normally use for washing fruit or for my pets but can also be taken internally or used as a mouthwash, dental rinse, etc. Basically it is a broad spectrum germacide that must be diluted as it is so strong. Well, by the end of the second day my sore throat was gone (after having it for about 2 weeks or so), the coating on my tongue was just light again and my tonsils continue to be fine (I take a look everyday). It even says on the bottle to add it to a waterpik dispenser. For me, the waterpik is so expensive but I will buy one if this doesn't continue to work. However, I have had so much success with the GSE that I wanted to recommend it to all of you. I think this is an infection that got out of hand for me and I won't be battling stones forever, as my tonsils look nice and healthy otherwise. GSE can be used for many things but it certainly has helped me greatly with this!
mwilliamryan
07-13-2003, 10:32 PM
Julia:
Could you elaborate on how you are taking the GSE? Are you diluting and drinking? If so, in what proportions and how often? Are you also rinsing with it? Thanks.
Could you elaborate on how you are taking the GSE? Are you diluting and drinking? If so, in what proportions and how often? Are you also rinsing with it? Thanks.
orion
07-14-2003, 01:13 AM
I've had those white spots on my right tonsil for over 10 years. They came and went. I have never noticed that they immediately respond to antibotics or antifungal medications. I have read that they are related to food getting caught in pockets in your tonsil. But I no longer believe that is true.
I have watch my spots develop very carefully and it is now clear that these spots begin under the skin of my tonsil and slowly work there way out like a blood blister does on your finger. I think these tonsil stones are actually dead cells that have calcified because your tonsil has been fighting an infection. When they break onto the surface some food particles stick to them, but I think that is just incidental. If you break them open they are soft and sometimes smelly just like the stuff you sometimes get out of a rather large zit that is healing over.
In both cases I think they are the debri of a fight your body had with an infection. I had a 10 year battle with tonsil infections that finally stopped when it was discovered I had low thyroid and my immune system was screwed up. Since that time, my tonsil has been slowly shrinking in size and as it does so I get many of these white spots coming out of the tonsil. When the spot drops off, it often leaves a hole that goes some considerable distance into my tonsil. That hole slowly closes and disappears.
So if you have those white spots I think it represents an infection that you had or currently have. If your tonsil is even the least bit swollen then you need to first have your thyroid checked to make sure you have a normal immune system and then to on some long term antibiotic like doxycyline for a month or more to kill and eliminate what ever infection is causes your problem.
In my case I had to take 3 different antibiotics (penicillin, zithromax and cephalexin) one after the other followed by 3 months of Sulfatrim and an antifungal to kill the yeast that started from all those antibiotics. But my infection is clearly gone now and as my tonsil steadily shrinks it is showing more and more of those white spots. Which I think is a good thing because it is the residue of past infections.
Hope it helps.
I have watch my spots develop very carefully and it is now clear that these spots begin under the skin of my tonsil and slowly work there way out like a blood blister does on your finger. I think these tonsil stones are actually dead cells that have calcified because your tonsil has been fighting an infection. When they break onto the surface some food particles stick to them, but I think that is just incidental. If you break them open they are soft and sometimes smelly just like the stuff you sometimes get out of a rather large zit that is healing over.
In both cases I think they are the debri of a fight your body had with an infection. I had a 10 year battle with tonsil infections that finally stopped when it was discovered I had low thyroid and my immune system was screwed up. Since that time, my tonsil has been slowly shrinking in size and as it does so I get many of these white spots coming out of the tonsil. When the spot drops off, it often leaves a hole that goes some considerable distance into my tonsil. That hole slowly closes and disappears.
So if you have those white spots I think it represents an infection that you had or currently have. If your tonsil is even the least bit swollen then you need to first have your thyroid checked to make sure you have a normal immune system and then to on some long term antibiotic like doxycyline for a month or more to kill and eliminate what ever infection is causes your problem.
In my case I had to take 3 different antibiotics (penicillin, zithromax and cephalexin) one after the other followed by 3 months of Sulfatrim and an antifungal to kill the yeast that started from all those antibiotics. But my infection is clearly gone now and as my tonsil steadily shrinks it is showing more and more of those white spots. Which I think is a good thing because it is the residue of past infections.
Hope it helps.
candycandy
07-14-2003, 03:07 AM
hmm... maybe i shouldn't rush into a tonsillectomy just yet. i know i don't want to be water-pikking for the rest of my life, but i wonder if the grapefruit seed extract or antibiotics will work. i think i'll give it a shot.
marcen
07-14-2003, 08:47 AM
I agree that these stones represent infection, the tonsils being lymphodal tissue. However, I do not believe that long-term antibiotics is the way to go, as it will only serve to weaken your immune system further. A natural product such as GSE is a powerful germacide and at the same time, an incredible immune booster. Everyone has crypts to some degree (the tonsil holes) but they are larger in some people and are also stretched by the stones. Also, a good indication of whether or not the environment in your mouth is suitable for stones is the coating on your tongue...if it is thick and whitish-yellow, you are more likely to have stones.
To answer the previous poster, I dilute about 6-8 drops of the GSE in 2 oz of water and swish and gargle 3 times a day, as well as dilute 6 drops in 3 oz and take internally 2-3 times a day. Then when the infection is gone you can lower it to 2 times a day if you want simply as a prevention and good health aid. It is a great breath freshner because it kills the bacteria rather than masking the odour.
To answer the previous poster, I dilute about 6-8 drops of the GSE in 2 oz of water and swish and gargle 3 times a day, as well as dilute 6 drops in 3 oz and take internally 2-3 times a day. Then when the infection is gone you can lower it to 2 times a day if you want simply as a prevention and good health aid. It is a great breath freshner because it kills the bacteria rather than masking the odour.
HSJay76
07-15-2003, 06:53 PM
"Hello. My name is Jason. I'm a tonsilolith sufferer."
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
orion
07-15-2003, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't to the surgery thing before trying multiple or long term antibiotics. Not only are they cheaper they are way safer as well. Your tonsils are useful despite what the doctors say.
Mich4
07-15-2003, 11:28 PM
I have been to an ENT many times since last June. I have had neck xrays, ct and a scope through my nose to my vocal cords (3x's). My throat has been sore for one year now only on my right side. I have picked some white stuff out of the right tonsil before. I don't see stuff in it all the time though. Of course I am very worried about all this. Do these tonsil stones make your throat sore. Sometimes the sore throat will go away for a week or so, but always returns. I am not hoarse or anything, just right sided soreness and my neck is sore on that side. The stuff in my tonsils that I picked out were small, whitish yellow clumps. They weren't big, but there were about 5 of them in there. The ENT thinks my tonsils look healthy. I have been afraid of throat cancer, but most people say it has been a year now and I would be alot worse by now. I am 33, a mild smoker (5-6 a day) and trying to quit.
Anyone with any thoughts please respond.
Thank you,
Michelle
Anyone with any thoughts please respond.
Thank you,
Michelle
marcen
07-15-2003, 11:37 PM
Hi Michelle,
yes the stones do cause your throat to be sore. My throat was sore non-stop for over two weeks and I also had a lump in my throat. Tests turned up negative for everything, but I could see that the coating on my tongue was thicker than normal. Those things you scraped off were indeed tonsil stones. Sometimes they will come off by themselves, and sometimes they build up into larger stones. If I were you I would definitely try the grapefruit seed extract. I have been using it now for a week and have had no reoccurance of stones and my sore throat is gone, as is the lump in my throat. Just add about 6-10 drops to a small amount of water 3 times a day to start and gargle with it, as well as drink it. I am sure you will notice a big improvement. If you do a search for grapefruit seed extract you will find a lot of info on this product!
yes the stones do cause your throat to be sore. My throat was sore non-stop for over two weeks and I also had a lump in my throat. Tests turned up negative for everything, but I could see that the coating on my tongue was thicker than normal. Those things you scraped off were indeed tonsil stones. Sometimes they will come off by themselves, and sometimes they build up into larger stones. If I were you I would definitely try the grapefruit seed extract. I have been using it now for a week and have had no reoccurance of stones and my sore throat is gone, as is the lump in my throat. Just add about 6-10 drops to a small amount of water 3 times a day to start and gargle with it, as well as drink it. I am sure you will notice a big improvement. If you do a search for grapefruit seed extract you will find a lot of info on this product!
orion
07-16-2003, 01:01 AM
Ok so I did look up the extract, but in MEDLINE. There are several medical journal research articles about the extract. Here is what they said:
"Pharmazie. 1999 Jun;54(6):452-6. Aspects of the antimicrobial efficacy of grapefruit seed extract and its relation to preservative substances contained.
Institute of Pharmacy, Ernst Moritz Arndt University, Greifswald, Germany." said that the antimicrobial efficacy as well as the content of preservative agents of six commercially available grapefruit seed extracts were examined. Five of the six extracts showed a high growth inhibiting activity against test germs. However they concluded after extensive tests that the nearly universal antimicrobial activity being attributed to grapefruit seed extract is merely due to the synthetic preservative agents contained within. And that natural products in the extract itself with antimicrobial activity are not present.
As well, an extract spray was used to try to kill bacteria around chickens and in "J Food Prot. 1998 Mar;61(3):272-5. Spraying chicken skin with selected chemicals to reduce attached Salmonella typhimurium.
Department of Biological & Agricultural Engineering, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 72701, USA." they concluded that there were no significant differences in Salmonella reduction caused by the extract.
And in "Arch Latinoam Nutr. 2002 Mar;52(1):74-6.
In vitro germicide action of disinfectant products used in the food industry,. Facultad de Ciencias Quimicas y Farmaceuticas, Universidad de Chile, Santiago de Chile." they tested the extract and several other products for their germicide effect. The extract wasn't even close to other products used everyday in the food industry.
So it seems any effect you are seeing has nothng to do with grapefruit seeds but everything to do with artificial preservatives put in the extract in order to prevent it from going rotten. Not the best thing to be pouring in your throat I don't think.
"Pharmazie. 1999 Jun;54(6):452-6. Aspects of the antimicrobial efficacy of grapefruit seed extract and its relation to preservative substances contained.
Institute of Pharmacy, Ernst Moritz Arndt University, Greifswald, Germany." said that the antimicrobial efficacy as well as the content of preservative agents of six commercially available grapefruit seed extracts were examined. Five of the six extracts showed a high growth inhibiting activity against test germs. However they concluded after extensive tests that the nearly universal antimicrobial activity being attributed to grapefruit seed extract is merely due to the synthetic preservative agents contained within. And that natural products in the extract itself with antimicrobial activity are not present.
As well, an extract spray was used to try to kill bacteria around chickens and in "J Food Prot. 1998 Mar;61(3):272-5. Spraying chicken skin with selected chemicals to reduce attached Salmonella typhimurium.
Department of Biological & Agricultural Engineering, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 72701, USA." they concluded that there were no significant differences in Salmonella reduction caused by the extract.
And in "Arch Latinoam Nutr. 2002 Mar;52(1):74-6.
In vitro germicide action of disinfectant products used in the food industry,. Facultad de Ciencias Quimicas y Farmaceuticas, Universidad de Chile, Santiago de Chile." they tested the extract and several other products for their germicide effect. The extract wasn't even close to other products used everyday in the food industry.
So it seems any effect you are seeing has nothng to do with grapefruit seeds but everything to do with artificial preservatives put in the extract in order to prevent it from going rotten. Not the best thing to be pouring in your throat I don't think.
Mich4
07-16-2003, 08:40 AM
Has anyone had a sore throat for a year? I am worried about the length of time I have had it for.
By the way, thanks for the replies. I appreciate any info I can get.
Thanks again, Michelle
By the way, thanks for the replies. I appreciate any info I can get.
Thanks again, Michelle
marcen
07-16-2003, 08:59 AM
Interesting research but there are many other papers available on the internet that support the effectiveness of the extract...also the brand I buy contains no preservatives, just citricidal (the active ingredient) and a vegetable oil (nutribiotic is the brand). Do you realize that the stones are composed of the same bacteria that coats the tongue? People who take longterm antibiotics upset their natural balance of bacteria and end up with yeast infections (which includes oral infections, not just vaginal). This would only serve to worsen the problem of tonsil stones in the longrun. Antibiotics are certainly not a healthy alternative for you.
Mich4
07-16-2003, 10:10 AM
Has anyone had a sore throat unilaterally for a year? Would the ENT have seen something more sinister?
Thanks, Michelle
Thanks, Michelle
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Airwave
07-17-2003, 05:06 PM
Yes, I hve had a sore throat for more than a year. I have complained to doctors for a long time about constant hoarseness, sore throats and weak vocals. I have been scared thinking that maybe I had cancer. I have been diagnoised with tonsil stones and will have the surgery in abou three weeks to remove them. From what I have read on this message board this seems to be the best solution to a lot of you. I hope that this will end the constant sore throat along with other problems.
Mich4
07-17-2003, 05:09 PM
Thank you for your reply. Is your sore throat in one spot or all around. MIne is only right sided. Do you think the ENT with all the tests I've had, ct scan, xray, scope through the nose to the vocal cords, etc, would have found cancer in the throat or the tongue area?
Thanks,
Michelle
Thanks,
Michelle
googoo1
07-18-2003, 11:48 AM
Can't believe this thread -- so glad to find out I'm not alone! I'm making an appt with an ENT today!
Michelle, I have had the same fears -- I think we all have at some point, because it seems very abnormal to feel constant lumps in your throat! Obviously, no one here can know whether you have a serious problem, but it would seem to me that that's a LOT of testing to have done and still miss something. My throat is not sore, but my tonsil stone problem is definitely on one side (left) and I can usually feel something in the back of my throat there. I thought I had gotten everything out and still felt it, so I too was scared of cancer, but then this morning my husband looked with a flashlight and saw more lumps in a different place. So now I'm working on those, but I am still going to ask to have these things out -- enough is enough! The lumps that are bothering me now are way down at the bottom of the tonsil, and I can't seem to get to them because the base of my tongue is in the way. Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions? I am using the waterpik method (I also have the Interplak, but might upgrade...) and it definitely helps. Give it a try, keep in touch with your doctor, and try not to get too freaked out.
Michelle, I have had the same fears -- I think we all have at some point, because it seems very abnormal to feel constant lumps in your throat! Obviously, no one here can know whether you have a serious problem, but it would seem to me that that's a LOT of testing to have done and still miss something. My throat is not sore, but my tonsil stone problem is definitely on one side (left) and I can usually feel something in the back of my throat there. I thought I had gotten everything out and still felt it, so I too was scared of cancer, but then this morning my husband looked with a flashlight and saw more lumps in a different place. So now I'm working on those, but I am still going to ask to have these things out -- enough is enough! The lumps that are bothering me now are way down at the bottom of the tonsil, and I can't seem to get to them because the base of my tongue is in the way. Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions? I am using the waterpik method (I also have the Interplak, but might upgrade...) and it definitely helps. Give it a try, keep in touch with your doctor, and try not to get too freaked out.
dancerJNE
07-18-2003, 05:00 PM
Hi
I too think that I have tonsil stones becaue my tonsils are swollen and have little white things in them. My question is do any of you have any other symptoms of other lymph nodes swelling? I do, I periodically get a rash under my armpit and the back of my neck has developed a tiny bump. I was not sure if I have tonsils stones or some kind of lymph node cancer. I have an appointment with a doc this week but I was just wanting to ease my mind and see if any of you with tonsil stones have any of these symptoms
Thanks!
I too think that I have tonsil stones becaue my tonsils are swollen and have little white things in them. My question is do any of you have any other symptoms of other lymph nodes swelling? I do, I periodically get a rash under my armpit and the back of my neck has developed a tiny bump. I was not sure if I have tonsils stones or some kind of lymph node cancer. I have an appointment with a doc this week but I was just wanting to ease my mind and see if any of you with tonsil stones have any of these symptoms
Thanks!
thoughtcage
07-21-2003, 01:24 PM
hello everyone! i was thinking about getting my tonsils cut out cos the tonsil stones are super annoying. i'm glad i found this website with other folks who are talking about it. i kinda want to be buried with all of my body parts ;) and also i'm worried about needing the tonsils in the future. what if i get em out and suddenly i need em to stave off an infection or something? plus i'm really scared of pain medication since i get really ill from it.
i've had tonsil stones since forever but lately they've gotten worse, and i am sick of picking them out, and my gag reflex seems to be getting better and better...(sigh) i also have lots of post nasal drip, but i can't very well live my life in a bubble. i do know that i am allergic to many things. i am vegan and try to eat nonwheat, nongluten things. also i have been cutten back on the corn and soy since they are common allergen foods.
sometimes the entire world feels toxic to my body! okay so i'm exaggerating a little, but i'm so tired of trying to pinpoint the causes of my post nasal drip. anyway, i am going on. but i am glad that there are folks out there who have had tonsillectomies and those who are keepin the tonsils where they are and water-pik-ing. i'm just not sure i can 1) afford a water-pik, and 2) pik every day.
but i am very very very hesitant about getting a tonsillectomy. however, the tonsil stones are getting worse and annoying and i have chronic halitosis and i am only getting older, which means the surgery will be more painful the longer i wait.
so i would greatly appreciate any help and feedback. first, 1) does it matter if my tonsils are gone?
2) does water pik-ing actually work?
3) are you sure that the GSE stuff works? cos i have that stuff in facial cream and it's not so great ;)
4) do people have any tips in getting rid of post nasal drip short of gargling every day, blowing your nose every day, and wearing a mask all the time (i am allergic to so many things...but i guess it doesn't help that my house is carpeted and i have two dogs)? i had allergy shots but they weren't doing it for me.
okay, this post is getting out of hand. thank you so much for any feedback! i hope everyone is in good health!
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i've had tonsil stones since forever but lately they've gotten worse, and i am sick of picking them out, and my gag reflex seems to be getting better and better...(sigh) i also have lots of post nasal drip, but i can't very well live my life in a bubble. i do know that i am allergic to many things. i am vegan and try to eat nonwheat, nongluten things. also i have been cutten back on the corn and soy since they are common allergen foods.
sometimes the entire world feels toxic to my body! okay so i'm exaggerating a little, but i'm so tired of trying to pinpoint the causes of my post nasal drip. anyway, i am going on. but i am glad that there are folks out there who have had tonsillectomies and those who are keepin the tonsils where they are and water-pik-ing. i'm just not sure i can 1) afford a water-pik, and 2) pik every day.
but i am very very very hesitant about getting a tonsillectomy. however, the tonsil stones are getting worse and annoying and i have chronic halitosis and i am only getting older, which means the surgery will be more painful the longer i wait.
so i would greatly appreciate any help and feedback. first, 1) does it matter if my tonsils are gone?
2) does water pik-ing actually work?
3) are you sure that the GSE stuff works? cos i have that stuff in facial cream and it's not so great ;)
4) do people have any tips in getting rid of post nasal drip short of gargling every day, blowing your nose every day, and wearing a mask all the time (i am allergic to so many things...but i guess it doesn't help that my house is carpeted and i have two dogs)? i had allergy shots but they weren't doing it for me.
okay, this post is getting out of hand. thank you so much for any feedback! i hope everyone is in good health!
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sweetpea99
07-21-2003, 06:06 PM
HI all IM new to this bord but when I saw this I had to reply, My husband has this problume with the stones too he has been to many doc about this and we finly got a answer that from what I have read non of you know, the stones that are comeing out are NORMAL!! everyone gets them your tonsals dont need to be removed unless you have lymphnood problums, what it is is the stones are a typ of lub that is secreated by your ears, when it does its job it hardins to a small ball and is then ejected out through your tonsials in to your mouth so your body can decompose of it (swollow it) now think had have you ever had that felling like something was in your throt but you didnt eat anything then you drink someting and its gone take a good guess to what it is!!!!! well with my hubby his ears make more then it needs cause he has swimers ear (he gets ear infections easy due to water getting in his ear) we were told that people that have had bad ear infections as kids or adults that get them easy, people with swimers ear, or even people with sinus problums ( the sinus porbles lead to ear probs cause as you sleep when you sleep on your back you nose can drain in to your ears causeing it to stay there so your ears make more of this stuff)and sometimes bad alergies can do it too. Well if you have any of these its probly why you have the stones your body is just doing its job, the one thing that we were told though is DO NOT EXSPRESS THEM OUT!!! now the only reason Im saying this is if you do it just make your ears make more and its not a good thing to do (my husband did this eeeeewwwwwwwww thats why I know this)
Also the doc told us usealy they will not remove your tonisals because of this its not that serious but if its really bad they can remove a part of your tonisal that will stop it from being so bad.
also some diff way we were told to help it is if you have ear infections alot you should have your sinus checked if not maybe haveing them removed is a good idea, if you have swimers ear after a shower, bath or time in the pool or in water after your done take alcohol and pour a cap full in your ears let it sit for about 5 sec then tip your head over and let it drain out then you can litely swab your ear to get the exsess out, the alcohol drys up the water fast, also if you clean your ears out every day dont ear wax is important you should only do it every other day at the most, and if you have sinus problums or bad alargies try some over the counter meds (benadril for exampale) and take it at nite it should loosin up any stuffyness you have and make it easyer to breath at nite. OK well there are my two cents LOL. O and sorry for all the miss spelling Im such a bad speller and dont have word check LOL Thanks have a good day all!!
Also the doc told us usealy they will not remove your tonisals because of this its not that serious but if its really bad they can remove a part of your tonisal that will stop it from being so bad.
also some diff way we were told to help it is if you have ear infections alot you should have your sinus checked if not maybe haveing them removed is a good idea, if you have swimers ear after a shower, bath or time in the pool or in water after your done take alcohol and pour a cap full in your ears let it sit for about 5 sec then tip your head over and let it drain out then you can litely swab your ear to get the exsess out, the alcohol drys up the water fast, also if you clean your ears out every day dont ear wax is important you should only do it every other day at the most, and if you have sinus problums or bad alargies try some over the counter meds (benadril for exampale) and take it at nite it should loosin up any stuffyness you have and make it easyer to breath at nite. OK well there are my two cents LOL. O and sorry for all the miss spelling Im such a bad speller and dont have word check LOL Thanks have a good day all!!
tlrobin5773
07-22-2003, 12:28 AM
This is copied from a site I went to about these things. My husband has them once in a while. We are going to try a different approach. Your body isn't meant to be dissected.
Once in a while I get these small white round dots that appear on my tonsils and sometimes I even cough them up. They have an extremely strong odor. What are they and is this related to my breath and taste disorder?
Those little round globules are known as Tonsilloliths and they are most definitely related to Halitosis and sour taste. They are created by sulfur gases produced by these bacteria (which are located across from the tonsils in the throat area). The sulfur gas mixes with the mucous and thick saliva in the back of your throat and after a period of time, condense into these concentrated, odorous globs. They are only present when one has tonsils, but not in all cases. (I have had many patients who have actually had their tonsils removed due to misinformation from physicians about this problem. Of course, these patients still had bad breath after having the tonsillectomy, because BAD BREATH DOES NOT START IN THE TONSILS! (only on the back of the tongue). However, it can branch off into the tonsils, secondarily.
Once in a while I get these small white round dots that appear on my tonsils and sometimes I even cough them up. They have an extremely strong odor. What are they and is this related to my breath and taste disorder?
Those little round globules are known as Tonsilloliths and they are most definitely related to Halitosis and sour taste. They are created by sulfur gases produced by these bacteria (which are located across from the tonsils in the throat area). The sulfur gas mixes with the mucous and thick saliva in the back of your throat and after a period of time, condense into these concentrated, odorous globs. They are only present when one has tonsils, but not in all cases. (I have had many patients who have actually had their tonsils removed due to misinformation from physicians about this problem. Of course, these patients still had bad breath after having the tonsillectomy, because BAD BREATH DOES NOT START IN THE TONSILS! (only on the back of the tongue). However, it can branch off into the tonsils, secondarily.
Mich41
07-22-2003, 02:20 PM
I am having a hard time believing my sore throat on the right hand side is caused by my tonsil. It has been sore on and off since last July. Most days it the discomfort is there. I can swallow and talk, but it is always there. I had a ct scan of my neck last october (the pain was at it's worst then), it came back clear, had a neck ultrasound (2 small cysts 3mm on my thyroid, (no need to worry they said, the ENT performed 3 scopes down my throat (just through the nose to the vocal cords), didn't see anything, bloodwork several times, normal. I'm sure there are other tests I'm missing, but can't remember. Would they have seen cancer if it were there. The ent has told me to stop worrying, but when you feel something everyday it is hard. I have found 5 little stones in my tonsil, that was about a month ago, but haven't seen anything since. Could that be what it is? My ear on that side bothers me sometimes (not always), just the back part of my throat on that side.
Help anyone! My ent is a well respected doctor in a teaching hospital.
Thanks, Mich41, (33 years old, mild smoker trying to quit)
Help anyone! My ent is a well respected doctor in a teaching hospital.
Thanks, Mich41, (33 years old, mild smoker trying to quit)
maryett
07-22-2003, 09:02 PM
I'm a sufferer too. Yuck this stuff is a gross-out! I get the tonsil stones and scrape them out of the pockets I can see but the horrible mothball-poo taste when I swallow still remains. I also feel there are other balls building up in a different place? Sometimes I'll be brushing my teeth and a green ball will pop into my mouth from like the very bottom and back of my mouth. Maybe it's still from the tonsils.
I've been doing a bit of research about this and from what I've read TLRobin is right, the globs are caused from sulfur dioxide, which is a gas which is a by-product of the food particles the bacteria on your tongue are eating. When you swallow the gas builds up over time in the pockets in your tonsils into the solid forms.
The sore throat is caused by post-nasal drip which also causes the globs because the nasal drip drips onto the back of your tongue (which is the source of the whole problem).
I've also read that conventional mouthwashes can do more harm than good because, ironically, most of them contain alcohol which just dries out your mouth and makes the condition worse.
Also you have to avoid things that make your breath stink like dairy products, coffee and alcohol. I know my mouth certainly feels stinky after eating cheese or drinking milk or coffee and it also feels yuck after having sugary, highly processed foods like biscuits, cakes, sweets and soft-drink.
And when I used to smoke a pack a day I once had the biggest tonsilolith I've ever had suddenly fall into my mouth, it was like a centimetre wide! So I'm sure smoking doesn't help.
I have also read that even if you do get your tonsils removed you can still get these tonsilolith thingies.
Doctors and dentists etc don't know jack about it because to them it's a minor issue, but thank the lord for these companies that are actually taking the time to do research on this stuff.
I am currently using a similar product range to Therabreath, it's called "Breeze" and you begin in the morning with a toothpaste which you have to use for two minutes, followed by a Triclosan (anti-bacterial) mouthwash for 30 secs then a throat spray which is meant to prevent tonsiloliths from developing. Then at night you brush with a special mouth gel and use the spray again and then you smear some gel on your tongue and leave it there overnight. There is a website for this company and you can buy online. Do a search on the internet and try "fresh breath". The company is in Australia.
I haven't been using it religiously because I work from home and usually go around like a sloth most days, but when I do it definitely leaves my mouth feeling fresh, even in the morning I feel I have far less (or even none) morning breath. I still get the tonsil build-up but as I say I haven't been using it properly (and I'm still eating dairy foods).
I've been doing a bit of research about this and from what I've read TLRobin is right, the globs are caused from sulfur dioxide, which is a gas which is a by-product of the food particles the bacteria on your tongue are eating. When you swallow the gas builds up over time in the pockets in your tonsils into the solid forms.
The sore throat is caused by post-nasal drip which also causes the globs because the nasal drip drips onto the back of your tongue (which is the source of the whole problem).
I've also read that conventional mouthwashes can do more harm than good because, ironically, most of them contain alcohol which just dries out your mouth and makes the condition worse.
Also you have to avoid things that make your breath stink like dairy products, coffee and alcohol. I know my mouth certainly feels stinky after eating cheese or drinking milk or coffee and it also feels yuck after having sugary, highly processed foods like biscuits, cakes, sweets and soft-drink.
And when I used to smoke a pack a day I once had the biggest tonsilolith I've ever had suddenly fall into my mouth, it was like a centimetre wide! So I'm sure smoking doesn't help.
I have also read that even if you do get your tonsils removed you can still get these tonsilolith thingies.
Doctors and dentists etc don't know jack about it because to them it's a minor issue, but thank the lord for these companies that are actually taking the time to do research on this stuff.
I am currently using a similar product range to Therabreath, it's called "Breeze" and you begin in the morning with a toothpaste which you have to use for two minutes, followed by a Triclosan (anti-bacterial) mouthwash for 30 secs then a throat spray which is meant to prevent tonsiloliths from developing. Then at night you brush with a special mouth gel and use the spray again and then you smear some gel on your tongue and leave it there overnight. There is a website for this company and you can buy online. Do a search on the internet and try "fresh breath". The company is in Australia.
I haven't been using it religiously because I work from home and usually go around like a sloth most days, but when I do it definitely leaves my mouth feeling fresh, even in the morning I feel I have far less (or even none) morning breath. I still get the tonsil build-up but as I say I haven't been using it properly (and I'm still eating dairy foods).
googoo1
07-23-2003, 01:02 PM
Here's a better description of jala neti, or nasal irrigation -- http://www.tarayoga.net/neti/types.html
There's also a .pdf booklet available via a link on this page, with lots of good information about how and why this works. Apparently, there are other ways of doing this, including with milk (huh?) ghee (which is clarified butter -- double huh?) and urine! (EEK! Yucky! Don't do that.) This site advises using ONLY salt water, thank goodness.
There's also a .pdf booklet available via a link on this page, with lots of good information about how and why this works. Apparently, there are other ways of doing this, including with milk (huh?) ghee (which is clarified butter -- double huh?) and urine! (EEK! Yucky! Don't do that.) This site advises using ONLY salt water, thank goodness.
SpikeyMikey
07-23-2003, 03:53 PM
Well, like many others on this thread, I feel great knowing that I'm not a freak for getting these too--I've had doctors poo-poo the issue and dismiss it as food, etc., like many of you as well.
I'll have to check out the Therabreath treatment, but until then, a removal tool that has worked real well for me is a long, thin baby spoon. As the spoon's tip is narrow, it can reach into the holes easily, and because it's curved, it doesn't scrape harshly or poke at my throat. I'd tried the nail clipper, the toothbrush handle, and even a chop-stick, but the baby spoon is a winner.
I'll have to check out the Therabreath treatment, but until then, a removal tool that has worked real well for me is a long, thin baby spoon. As the spoon's tip is narrow, it can reach into the holes easily, and because it's curved, it doesn't scrape harshly or poke at my throat. I'd tried the nail clipper, the toothbrush handle, and even a chop-stick, but the baby spoon is a winner.
maryett
07-23-2003, 08:12 PM
Yeah I use either a spoon or blunt knife.
DrSpliff
07-24-2003, 03:01 AM
Argg, these things are horrible, I only discovered I was getting them last year, but have had holes in my tonsils since a period of frequent tonsilitis lasting about 4-5 years (I got it 7 times in one year once). The holes are really large, big enough for pears or pepper corns to get stuck in...
I haven't yet seen a doctor specificly about my tonsils, but im sure he'll just say some BS story about how it's bits of food getting stuck in there etc. But I really think my tonsils need to be removed, they've been giant ever since I can remember, and theres allways the feeling of two golf balls stuck down my throat... Not to mention my breath constantly smells, sure I could gargol 8 times a day, but thats just too much to ask.
Any ideas about persuading the doc to get my tonsils removed... im only 16 so the recovery shouldn't be too bad. They are way too big, causing a constant dull pain, maybe I have some form of constant mild tonsilitis?
I haven't yet seen a doctor specificly about my tonsils, but im sure he'll just say some BS story about how it's bits of food getting stuck in there etc. But I really think my tonsils need to be removed, they've been giant ever since I can remember, and theres allways the feeling of two golf balls stuck down my throat... Not to mention my breath constantly smells, sure I could gargol 8 times a day, but thats just too much to ask.
Any ideas about persuading the doc to get my tonsils removed... im only 16 so the recovery shouldn't be too bad. They are way too big, causing a constant dull pain, maybe I have some form of constant mild tonsilitis?
hyacnth
07-24-2003, 03:16 AM
Man, oh man, did I think I was the only freak out there! I've been battling these hellacious things for 10 years! I can't tell you how reassuring it is that it is as common as it seems. Tried the waterpik, and it's too rough. So, if you have any access to such a thing, the disposable instruments that doctors use to remove ear wax build-up (there's like a set of tools...loop-ended probes, scoops about 3mm wide, etc.) are the bomb at removing the little devils. I just disinfect them after each use. My hubby is a doctor, and I have another doctor friend, and neither have heard of this before. Years ago the ENT I went to knew immediately what they were, and prescribed Clindamycin for whatever anaerobic organisms may have been brewing at that time. Like, did an infection cause the crud, or did the crud cause an infection? I sure can sympathize with everyone who wants to get a tonsillectomy....it would make me feel so much more confident when talking to people knowing I don't have putrefying yuck hanging around!
LoriGymnast
07-24-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by HSJay76:
"Hello. My name is Jason. I'm a tonsilolith sufferer."
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
"Hello. My name is Jason. I'm a tonsilolith sufferer."
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
LoriGymnast
07-24-2003, 09:06 PM
Hi I really want to know how your doing since having your surgery. I am 41 years old and have had these tonsil stones since I was 26. They only seem to be getting worse. I am afraid to have them surgically removed at this stage in life. Will you please post everything about the surgery and the after effects no matter how bad they might be. Just please be honest, I want the truth to decide if I should be brave and have them taken out. Looking forward to hearing from you, hope your doing well. Originally posted by HSJay76:
"Hello. My name is Jason. I'm a tonsilolith sufferer."
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
"Hello. My name is Jason. I'm a tonsilolith sufferer."
Wow. I never imagined so many people had this! I've had tonsil stones since I was 13 or 14. I am now 27. I always thought it was something that I had to 'deal with' as my family doctor told me the same story that may of you got -- "It's just food..." I refused to beleive this, but decided to try and cope with it.
For over ten years I've been picking them out spitting them out and sometimes, in the absolute worst situations, having to SWALLOW them. (your cue to gag) I simply could not put up with it anymore, so I went to see an ENT about a year ago. He told me it was...you guessed it... f.o.o.d. and that my tonsils were healthy, that I shouldnt be concerned.
I found this site last week and immediately printed out the entire contents (for 'backup' or PROOF). I made another appointment with a different ENT; a somewhat younger and more hip doctor. She immediately recognized the fact that I had TONSILOLITHS (amen?) She diagnosed me with chronic tonsilitis and said that the tonsils need to be removed. I agreed. I get them removed in 3 weeks. I know that recovery will be more difficult because I am older, but it's either that or pick, gargle, swab, spit, pick, every day until death. I opted for removal thank you.
Oh, by the way. I gave my wife a flashlight and showed them to her. Her eyes got huge and she dropped the light. Now she gets freaked out when I kiss her. Perhaps I should have waited until a few days before surgery to show her. Oh well.
I hope the rest of you fair well your tonsil stones, aka tonsiloliths, aka vomit varmints, aka puke fluff, aka tonsil rocks, aka "WHATTHEHECKISTHAT!"
I'll post more during and after surgery recovery.
Later
JJ
fred47_2001
07-24-2003, 09:16 PM
my tonsil stone story. For years I have had a problem with an occasional tonsil stone but in the last 8 or 9 months an explosion in numbers along with a persistant soar throat and ear aches. Finally went to two ents who both down played the stones {said tonsils looked fine } but diagnosed acid reflux as the source of my discomfort. I have my doubts. my own observations seem to show a correlation in the number and side thier on as to the degree and location of the pain. am currently on nexium. one ent linked acid reflux to post nasal drip, I am again skeptical, but waiting 3 or 4 weeks to see any improvement with the drug therapy. any way one ent suggested and is willing to do the radio frequency coblation to elimenate the crypts in my tonsils { no more stones } I will most likely go with it if i dont improve as I cant stand the constant irretation caused by these damn things
SpikeyMikey
07-25-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by DrSpliff:
I haven't yet seen a doctor specificly about my tonsils, but im sure he'll just say some BS story about how it's bits of food getting stuck in there etc. But I really think my tonsils need to be removed, they've been giant ever since I can remember, and theres allways the feeling of two golf balls stuck down my throat... Not to mention my breath constantly smells, sure I could gargol 8 times a day, but thats just too much to ask.
Any ideas about persuading the doc to get my tonsils removed... im only 16 so the recovery shouldn't be too bad. They are way too big, causing a constant dull pain, maybe I have some form of constant mild tonsilitis?
Your condition would convince me to recommend removal if I were the doc! I say you go in for a diagnosis, and describe it the way you just did here...
I haven't yet seen a doctor specificly about my tonsils, but im sure he'll just say some BS story about how it's bits of food getting stuck in there etc. But I really think my tonsils need to be removed, they've been giant ever since I can remember, and theres allways the feeling of two golf balls stuck down my throat... Not to mention my breath constantly smells, sure I could gargol 8 times a day, but thats just too much to ask.
Any ideas about persuading the doc to get my tonsils removed... im only 16 so the recovery shouldn't be too bad. They are way too big, causing a constant dull pain, maybe I have some form of constant mild tonsilitis?
Your condition would convince me to recommend removal if I were the doc! I say you go in for a diagnosis, and describe it the way you just did here...
Cascabel
07-25-2003, 03:38 PM
I am so glad I found this site! I have been dealing with what I call "tonsil boogers" for a good 6 months now. I'm 23 now, but one site I found said if you had frequent tonsilitis as a child, you will be more likely to develop tonsil stones. That described me perfectly.
When I look at my tonsils, I don't see anything, but I can reach my tongue back and feel them. Usually they dislodge pretty easily, but other times, they get stuck for days. I try to gargle with warm water after brushing my teeth. That usually helps, but I still get them. I was too scared to go to the doctor, and figured that since it didn't hurt and I'm in good health otherwise, it must just be food or something. Glad to know that they are basically innocuous and that I'm not the only one!
When I look at my tonsils, I don't see anything, but I can reach my tongue back and feel them. Usually they dislodge pretty easily, but other times, they get stuck for days. I try to gargle with warm water after brushing my teeth. That usually helps, but I still get them. I was too scared to go to the doctor, and figured that since it didn't hurt and I'm in good health otherwise, it must just be food or something. Glad to know that they are basically innocuous and that I'm not the only one!
bbstandard
07-26-2003, 03:39 PM
Well, I just had to chime in and say I'm a fellow Tonsilolith sufferer as well. I love the internet. Before it we never would have found out other people have these things. I've had them since I was a kid... the first time I ever noticed one was when I went swimming in a pool and dove down in the deep end. When I came back up I had something in my mouth. I spit it out into my hand and it was a gross looking, off-white, smelly glob. I guess that the pressure increase from being under water forced them out of my tonsils. Then as a teen I started picking them out when I'd feel something in my throat. I've found the best thing to use to get them out is a paperclip held on the end of a pencil with a rubber band. I notice that I get them more in the warmer months. I have chronic post nasal drip and think it has something to do with that. I always worry that my breath stinks, but no one ever told me that it does.
maggie06
07-26-2003, 10:00 PM
I can't believe tonsil stones are so common! I am 39 and have had them off and on since I was a teen. They've gotten worse in the past 2-3 years and I also have frequent right-side only sore throats.
I'm on my 3rd round of antibiotics in 9 weeks. I saw an ENT last week for the first time. He is my age and recommended tonsillectomy because of chronic tonsillitis. The doc said that he is always concerned when only 1 tonsil is affected (sore, enlarged, swollen glands in the neck) and the best thing would be surgery even at my age!
He did warn me that after surgery my throat will be VERY painful for at least 2 weeks. I have a low tolerance for pain and the most effective pain meds make me sick, so I really want to avoid it if at all possible.
He was not concerned about the tonsil stone and in fact, he tried to scrape it off, so I think all of you pickers and squeezers have the right idea! After reading your posts, I went out and bought a waterpik and some antibacterial mouthwash that's alcohol free. I'm going to try this and see if it helps.
I am interested in feedback from anyone around my age who has had a tonsillectomy. How bad was it? How did you deal with the pain?
I'm on my 3rd round of antibiotics in 9 weeks. I saw an ENT last week for the first time. He is my age and recommended tonsillectomy because of chronic tonsillitis. The doc said that he is always concerned when only 1 tonsil is affected (sore, enlarged, swollen glands in the neck) and the best thing would be surgery even at my age!
He did warn me that after surgery my throat will be VERY painful for at least 2 weeks. I have a low tolerance for pain and the most effective pain meds make me sick, so I really want to avoid it if at all possible.
He was not concerned about the tonsil stone and in fact, he tried to scrape it off, so I think all of you pickers and squeezers have the right idea! After reading your posts, I went out and bought a waterpik and some antibacterial mouthwash that's alcohol free. I'm going to try this and see if it helps.
I am interested in feedback from anyone around my age who has had a tonsillectomy. How bad was it? How did you deal with the pain?
bbstandard
07-27-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by hyacnth:
So, if you have any access to such a thing, the disposable instruments that doctors use to remove ear wax build-up (there's like a set of tools...loop-ended probes, scoops about 3mm wide, etc.) are the bomb at removing the little devils. I just disinfect them after each use.
I haven't seen those, but I did have something that sounds similar that dermatologists use to remove blackheads. It was great at getting the tonsiloliths out ... it was a long skinny metal thing with a small loop on one end ... I would gently poke the loop into the tonsil crevice, around the tonsilolith, and pull it right out. Unfortunately, I lost it and haven't been able to find another one. So now I use my "paperclip held on the end of a pen with a rubber band" invention that works pretty good too. The thing is that whatever you use has to be long and skinny and have some sort of way to grab the lump. My husband thinks I'm nuts when I'm going through my routine, but hey, anything to not have the smelly lump in my throat. So, hyacnth, where would one go about getting one of these ear wax removers? From a doctor?
So, if you have any access to such a thing, the disposable instruments that doctors use to remove ear wax build-up (there's like a set of tools...loop-ended probes, scoops about 3mm wide, etc.) are the bomb at removing the little devils. I just disinfect them after each use.
I haven't seen those, but I did have something that sounds similar that dermatologists use to remove blackheads. It was great at getting the tonsiloliths out ... it was a long skinny metal thing with a small loop on one end ... I would gently poke the loop into the tonsil crevice, around the tonsilolith, and pull it right out. Unfortunately, I lost it and haven't been able to find another one. So now I use my "paperclip held on the end of a pen with a rubber band" invention that works pretty good too. The thing is that whatever you use has to be long and skinny and have some sort of way to grab the lump. My husband thinks I'm nuts when I'm going through my routine, but hey, anything to not have the smelly lump in my throat. So, hyacnth, where would one go about getting one of these ear wax removers? From a doctor?
bbstandard
07-27-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by googoo1:
a neti pot sort of looks like a little Aladdin's lamp -you fill it with warm salt water and (I know this sounds weird, but bear with me...) you bend over the sink, insert the spout into one nostril and pour the water through until it comes out the other nostril. Yes, they are connected! Then you do the other side, and blow your nose gently to get the last of the salt water out, and your sinuses feel wonderfully clean.
At first, it feels very strange, and even a little scary: there's an instinctive "drowning" reaction to getting water in your sinuses. But, truly, once you get used to it, it feels wonderful, and really cuts down on the post nasal drip. It also helps tremendously if you tend to get sinus infections, and it cuts the time of colds down a lot.
I agree about the neti pot... it is a little scary at first, but once you get used to it it's great. It's really a weird sensation and hard to get past the instinctive feeling that you shouldn't let your sinuses fill with water, but man oh man, does it help with sinus congestion. It's like giving your sinuses a bath. I have used it with colds too, makes it much easier to breathe.
I hadn't thought of the possibility of it helping the tonsil stones, but I guess it could. I don't usually use mine every day though, so I guess I'd have to if I wanted to see if the stones were reduced. The weird thing about my tonsil stones is that I don't get them all the time, just sometimes, and more often in the warmer months. Sometimes I'll have them constantly for a while, and they are a real nuisance, and then I'll go for quite some time without one. Wonder why that is?!
a neti pot sort of looks like a little Aladdin's lamp -you fill it with warm salt water and (I know this sounds weird, but bear with me...) you bend over the sink, insert the spout into one nostril and pour the water through until it comes out the other nostril. Yes, they are connected! Then you do the other side, and blow your nose gently to get the last of the salt water out, and your sinuses feel wonderfully clean.
At first, it feels very strange, and even a little scary: there's an instinctive "drowning" reaction to getting water in your sinuses. But, truly, once you get used to it, it feels wonderful, and really cuts down on the post nasal drip. It also helps tremendously if you tend to get sinus infections, and it cuts the time of colds down a lot.
I agree about the neti pot... it is a little scary at first, but once you get used to it it's great. It's really a weird sensation and hard to get past the instinctive feeling that you shouldn't let your sinuses fill with water, but man oh man, does it help with sinus congestion. It's like giving your sinuses a bath. I have used it with colds too, makes it much easier to breathe.
I hadn't thought of the possibility of it helping the tonsil stones, but I guess it could. I don't usually use mine every day though, so I guess I'd have to if I wanted to see if the stones were reduced. The weird thing about my tonsil stones is that I don't get them all the time, just sometimes, and more often in the warmer months. Sometimes I'll have them constantly for a while, and they are a real nuisance, and then I'll go for quite some time without one. Wonder why that is?!
Mich4
07-27-2003, 10:44 AM
I posted a while ago and put this on the cancer board. Please tell me what you think. I have picked out little stones from my tonsils in the past but most of the time I can't see them. Tell me what you think please.
I have been to many doctors, ents etc over the past year. I have had a sore throat since last June only on the right side. The ent assures me I don't have throat cancer. I asked him to biopsy, he said "what do you want me to biopsy"? I have had a neck ct, neck ultrasound (2 cysts 3mm each, normal, 3 scopes (through the nose to the vocal cords) and bloodwork. He did say I have a cyptic tonsil. I just find it hard to believe. I think it is cancer, can't get it out of my head.
It has been a year now. Would I know if it were throat or tongue cancer? Is it possible that it is was slow growing and the doctor didn't see it. The last time I saw him was the end of June (this past june). He didn't do any tests, just looked in. Said it all looked fine. See, my tonsils don't even look inflamed.
I'm sorry to bother any of you, you are all very strong. If you can help me in any way, please do. I can't really get a second opinion as we only have the one clinic. I do like this ent, he is very caring and the hospital is a teaching hospital, so I know he is respected.
Thanks again Michelle
I have been to many doctors, ents etc over the past year. I have had a sore throat since last June only on the right side. The ent assures me I don't have throat cancer. I asked him to biopsy, he said "what do you want me to biopsy"? I have had a neck ct, neck ultrasound (2 cysts 3mm each, normal, 3 scopes (through the nose to the vocal cords) and bloodwork. He did say I have a cyptic tonsil. I just find it hard to believe. I think it is cancer, can't get it out of my head.
It has been a year now. Would I know if it were throat or tongue cancer? Is it possible that it is was slow growing and the doctor didn't see it. The last time I saw him was the end of June (this past june). He didn't do any tests, just looked in. Said it all looked fine. See, my tonsils don't even look inflamed.
I'm sorry to bother any of you, you are all very strong. If you can help me in any way, please do. I can't really get a second opinion as we only have the one clinic. I do like this ent, he is very caring and the hospital is a teaching hospital, so I know he is respected.
Thanks again Michelle
ghebert
07-27-2003, 10:29 PM
I decided to look up on the internet for this tonight. I didn't thought so many people were having this too. I have also noticed that the only thing besides surgery to erradicate the problem is using TheraBreath... but as someone said, all the sites are pointing to the same site, so I wonder if it's a scam, or if it really works.
I will get an appointment with my doctor tomorrow. But I was wondering if the removal of my tonsils would be a lot less painful, and the recovery quicker, since I am only 21?
I will get an appointment with my doctor tomorrow. But I was wondering if the removal of my tonsils would be a lot less painful, and the recovery quicker, since I am only 21?
TonsilStonesSuk
07-27-2003, 11:39 PM
I would recommend anyone newly reading this thread to be sure to read the whole thing. It took me nearly an hour but with the info that was gained, it was well worth it.
I've had these things for years. It's actually a pretty good feeling when you 'pop' or 'squirt' one of 'em out. My tool of choice is one of those very popular, disposable Papermate pens. You know, the white pen with the black top where the ballpoint sits. What I do is remove the ball point section (that whole black part twists off easily) so that just the white shell of the pen is left. Where the black part used to be is now a nice little hole which I use to cover the stone(s),push and sometimes scrape. It works pretty well. If a smaller instrument is needed I'll sometimes use the ink tube part of the pen that was pulled out and jab that in there, cleaning before use of course. Bic makes a similar pen but the opening is larger. I used to gag quite easily in the beginning, but with practice you begin to get used to probing around back there and your gag reflex tones down some.
I think one should have an array of different tools to use depending on the positioning and size of the stone. The paperclip tool is a good idea. I might have to try that one out sometime.
After jabbing these things out for so long, I am totally convinced they are being created INSIDE the tonsil and are working their way out, just as someone mentioned before. It's funny how you can see absolutely nothing there, but probe around for a little while in your problem spots and BINGO a little rock pops out or some white crap spooges out.
I am about a week into the Therabreath treatment. It's still a little too early to tell if it's working or not. I'm using the nasal drops, OxyGen tabs, Oral rinse and tooth gel. I've still had a stone or two since I've started but these things form over time and they could have been forming from before I started using the stuff. Or, the products could just take a while to really kick in. Or maybe even a combination of the two. All I know is that this stuff is not cheap and it'll be a new recurring bill every month if it really works. Even if the stuff doesn't work with eliminating the tonsil stones, but does a good job getting rid of my bad breath I'll continue to use it.
I've had these things for years. It's actually a pretty good feeling when you 'pop' or 'squirt' one of 'em out. My tool of choice is one of those very popular, disposable Papermate pens. You know, the white pen with the black top where the ballpoint sits. What I do is remove the ball point section (that whole black part twists off easily) so that just the white shell of the pen is left. Where the black part used to be is now a nice little hole which I use to cover the stone(s),push and sometimes scrape. It works pretty well. If a smaller instrument is needed I'll sometimes use the ink tube part of the pen that was pulled out and jab that in there, cleaning before use of course. Bic makes a similar pen but the opening is larger. I used to gag quite easily in the beginning, but with practice you begin to get used to probing around back there and your gag reflex tones down some.
I think one should have an array of different tools to use depending on the positioning and size of the stone. The paperclip tool is a good idea. I might have to try that one out sometime.
After jabbing these things out for so long, I am totally convinced they are being created INSIDE the tonsil and are working their way out, just as someone mentioned before. It's funny how you can see absolutely nothing there, but probe around for a little while in your problem spots and BINGO a little rock pops out or some white crap spooges out.
I am about a week into the Therabreath treatment. It's still a little too early to tell if it's working or not. I'm using the nasal drops, OxyGen tabs, Oral rinse and tooth gel. I've still had a stone or two since I've started but these things form over time and they could have been forming from before I started using the stuff. Or, the products could just take a while to really kick in. Or maybe even a combination of the two. All I know is that this stuff is not cheap and it'll be a new recurring bill every month if it really works. Even if the stuff doesn't work with eliminating the tonsil stones, but does a good job getting rid of my bad breath I'll continue to use it.
hyacnth
07-28-2003, 01:17 PM
to hbstandard: My hubby is a "doc in a box" at an urgent care clinic...this is where I got those instruments. He has a problem with earwax, and had brought home a set. When I found them, I absconded with them (before he used them, of course)! If you all are like me, you are probably always scanning your environment for things to do this nasty little job. They are plastic, disposable, and came in a little clear plastic sleeve. I would recommend asking any family or general practitioner or even pediatrician (my child's doc had them, too) if they would spare a set, or even sell a set to you, if they keep them around the office. They usually work best on crypts that are sort of "reamed out" and easy to access. I do have a few that are quite small and stubborn to clean.
To the person with the paper clip...OUCH! Doesn't that hurt? Those paperclips have sharp edges...but kudos to you for ingenuity. My sad state is that I used two ear swabs to clear out a stuck one, and the trauma I caused to the side of my tonsil has now ulcerated, very much like a canker sore, or aphthous ulcer. OOOWWW! It really hurts to eat, swallow, talk, etc. So be careful out there! I like the idea of using a laser doo-hickey to obliterate the crypts...seems like a much easier procedure and recovery time. Anyone know anything about it? Do tell!
I would love to find a resolution for this for everyone out there suffering. It's like our own private little Hell...no one wants to share this affliction with anyone, much too embarassing. Maybe we should organize and get a celebrity spokesperson to squish their tonsils on television like Katie Couric on Today Show, getting a colonoscopy to de-stigmatize colon cancer. Like Judy Tenuta says, "It could happen!!"
To the person with the paper clip...OUCH! Doesn't that hurt? Those paperclips have sharp edges...but kudos to you for ingenuity. My sad state is that I used two ear swabs to clear out a stuck one, and the trauma I caused to the side of my tonsil has now ulcerated, very much like a canker sore, or aphthous ulcer. OOOWWW! It really hurts to eat, swallow, talk, etc. So be careful out there! I like the idea of using a laser doo-hickey to obliterate the crypts...seems like a much easier procedure and recovery time. Anyone know anything about it? Do tell!
I would love to find a resolution for this for everyone out there suffering. It's like our own private little Hell...no one wants to share this affliction with anyone, much too embarassing. Maybe we should organize and get a celebrity spokesperson to squish their tonsils on television like Katie Couric on Today Show, getting a colonoscopy to de-stigmatize colon cancer. Like Judy Tenuta says, "It could happen!!"
summer44
07-28-2003, 05:31 PM
Sometimes when I swallow then breathe out through my nose the air that comes out of my nose picks up the stench from the tonsil stones. I know this b/c my wife asks my if I farted (she says what smells like rotting garbage)....I hate these freakin' things soooooooo much....
TonsilStonesSuk
07-28-2003, 06:45 PM
hyacnth: I don't think the paperclip method involves opening up a paperclip and jabbing the end of it in your throat. I think what they are trying to say is to take a paperclip (unfolded, in it's original form) and to tape or rubber band it to the end of a pen, pencil or long instrument. Then use the rounded edge of the paperclip to kind of slightly push against the side of a cript and in one or several swipes "rub" out the stone.
It sounds like it could work because you're in a sense scooping it out of there. And the rounded edge allows you to push against your tonsils hopefully without causing any trauma back there.
Heck, you could even get fancy by setting up two opposing paperclips on the same pencil and have them act to push the stone out from both edges. Or fancier, fancier yet and setup 4 paperclips to box in the stone and push. But then if that's the case you might as well use my 'open cap' pen method. But the advantage that the paperclip lends is that you can still see what's going on back there while scooping. Unlike my pen method.
It sounds like it could work because you're in a sense scooping it out of there. And the rounded edge allows you to push against your tonsils hopefully without causing any trauma back there.
Heck, you could even get fancy by setting up two opposing paperclips on the same pencil and have them act to push the stone out from both edges. Or fancier, fancier yet and setup 4 paperclips to box in the stone and push. But then if that's the case you might as well use my 'open cap' pen method. But the advantage that the paperclip lends is that you can still see what's going on back there while scooping. Unlike my pen method.
LoriGymnast
07-28-2003, 08:52 PM
I'm beginning to think that I'm not going to be able to continue on in this way. My ENT Dr. said it is a quality of life issue. But the quality is getting worse, because my left tonsil has had the stone stuck up there for weeks now. And it is just getting bigger, I can't get it to come out. This situation has definately gotton worse over the years. I first noticed it at 26 and now being 41 there is a huge difference. Especially here as of late it seems as though there is no break, I constantly have it in the left tonsil. Only occasionaly in the right one. I totally believe it has to do with post nasal drip that flows down the back of the throat and not out my nose. I read once about a Dr. in Houston Texas who uses lasers to close of the crypts in the tonsils. But I think my left one might be to far gone already and that the whole tonsil would have to be removed. I am sooooo afraid of getting them out at this age. My Dr. told me that once your over 16 years old it's much harder on you than when your a child. I also read it's much more dangerous too. Can anyone who is an adult and just had tonsils taken out try to convince me otherwise. I want to be truly rid of this most sickening problem.
nikki303
07-29-2003, 02:43 PM
To: LoriGymnast
I just had my tonsils out on May 30. I am 28 years old. I will admit, the first few days were not a walk in the park, however the end results are wonderful!! It is so nice now not to be looking in and digging at my throat constantly. The pain that I was in went away with extra strength tylonol. (The Rx the doc gave me made me vomit.) It is not as if you will be suffering forever from pain. I slept alot, which made the time that I was in pain go by much faster. By the 9th day post-op I was done with the tylonol. I had them removed on a Friday and I went back to work 12 days later on a Wednesday. I feel great now. No more sore throats- nothing. You really should consider having it done. It doesn't seem as if you can go on much longer the way it is.
I just had my tonsils out on May 30. I am 28 years old. I will admit, the first few days were not a walk in the park, however the end results are wonderful!! It is so nice now not to be looking in and digging at my throat constantly. The pain that I was in went away with extra strength tylonol. (The Rx the doc gave me made me vomit.) It is not as if you will be suffering forever from pain. I slept alot, which made the time that I was in pain go by much faster. By the 9th day post-op I was done with the tylonol. I had them removed on a Friday and I went back to work 12 days later on a Wednesday. I feel great now. No more sore throats- nothing. You really should consider having it done. It doesn't seem as if you can go on much longer the way it is.
bocian
07-30-2003, 07:33 PM
i keep getting the same problem with my right tonsil but never my left, and my right tonsil always seems a bit bigger than my left even without any spots on it, also i noticed that when i get the spots i feel as though the right side of my throat or lymph node feels as if its swollen, and i keep getting the urge to clear my throat , even though there isnt much discomfort the urge is there, but i dont know if this isnt more psychological than anything else. I also feel some discomfort in my nasal cavity, where as i can suck it in and spit it out usually as white mucus/phlegm but i cant blow it out. My tongue also has a whitish/yellowish coating on the back, when i brush it off it comes back within a few days.
brynndawn
07-31-2003, 08:27 PM
how inthe heck do you get to them when you have a small flashlight in one hand and a qtip inthe other all the while trying to smash down your tongue so you can find them?!? It is impossible! I feel them back there and I def. know I have them because I have been dealing with this for years- sneezing them up or coughing them up I just need to know how you get to them with the qtip!
bbstandard
08-02-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by hyacnth:
[B]to hbstandard: My hubby is a "doc in a box" at an urgent care clinic...this is where I got those instruments.
To the person with the paper clip...OUCH! Doesn't that hurt? Those paperclips have sharp edges...but kudos to you for ingenuity. B]
Heh heh, I'm one and the same... I'm hbstandard and the paperclip person. :) I don't poke myself with the paperclip end... as someone else pointed out, I put a whole paperclip in it's original, usable form on the end of a pen and hold it on there with a rubberband. Then I poke the end of the paperclip into the crypt and scoop out the stone. But I have very large crypts, so the paperclip fits in there fine. It doesn't hurt in the least. It works well b/c the paperclip sorta grabs the stone since it's in a loop shape. I'll see about getting some of your ear wax thingies though. Thanks for the tip.
[B]to hbstandard: My hubby is a "doc in a box" at an urgent care clinic...this is where I got those instruments.
To the person with the paper clip...OUCH! Doesn't that hurt? Those paperclips have sharp edges...but kudos to you for ingenuity. B]
Heh heh, I'm one and the same... I'm hbstandard and the paperclip person. :) I don't poke myself with the paperclip end... as someone else pointed out, I put a whole paperclip in it's original, usable form on the end of a pen and hold it on there with a rubberband. Then I poke the end of the paperclip into the crypt and scoop out the stone. But I have very large crypts, so the paperclip fits in there fine. It doesn't hurt in the least. It works well b/c the paperclip sorta grabs the stone since it's in a loop shape. I'll see about getting some of your ear wax thingies though. Thanks for the tip.
GOOKYyUcK
08-02-2003, 02:35 AM
WoW...I hav'nt met anyone ever with this same problem well we all seem to be survivors OF THE GOOKY YUCK!!well guys i am one of the few who has to suffer from this problem ONLY FOR 11 more days..im getting my tonsils out becuz of this in 11 days i am scared to death and i dont want to...i know 3 people who had theres out at my age 15 almost 16 and they told me how they had to go back to the hospital becuase of excessive bleeding...im scared im gonna DIE IN THERE :'( but i had these stinky things for awhile and i always chew gum around my boyfriend...he wants me to make out with him but im scared to death to let him i dont want him to taste my GOOKY YUCK!! and i rele want to, too...everyone else my age has but im scared of my breath lol...well i guess itll all be over in 13 days...wat are the risks that i might bleed to death?? :(ne wayz later days i have some SQUEEZING TO DO!!
bbstandard
08-02-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by brynndawn:
how inthe heck do you get to them when you have a small flashlight in one hand and a qtip inthe other all the while trying to smash down your tongue so you can find them?!? It is impossible! I feel them back there and I def. know I have them because I have been dealing with this for years- sneezing them up or coughing them up I just need to know how you get to them with the qtip!
I don't use a flashlight... I go in the bathroom and turn on all the lights and look in the mirror and hold my tongue down with my finger and see if there are any stones... if so, then I get out my trusty removal device and hold my tongue down with one hand and hold the device with the other. Sometimes I don't have to hold my tongue down if I can get at the right angle... don't forget to say "ahhhhhh," that helps move the tongue out of the way too.
how inthe heck do you get to them when you have a small flashlight in one hand and a qtip inthe other all the while trying to smash down your tongue so you can find them?!? It is impossible! I feel them back there and I def. know I have them because I have been dealing with this for years- sneezing them up or coughing them up I just need to know how you get to them with the qtip!
I don't use a flashlight... I go in the bathroom and turn on all the lights and look in the mirror and hold my tongue down with my finger and see if there are any stones... if so, then I get out my trusty removal device and hold my tongue down with one hand and hold the device with the other. Sometimes I don't have to hold my tongue down if I can get at the right angle... don't forget to say "ahhhhhh," that helps move the tongue out of the way too.
candycandy
08-05-2003, 12:43 AM
i went to the link left by asteroth about laser ablation. very interesting. i was also afraid of getting my tonsils out being that i'm not 16 anymore. i think i'll just wait a few years until they've got that laser technique more refined to where it's painless and low-risk. i mean, look how far we've come... don't you love how technology is always advancing?!