steve48
05-08-2003, 01:39 PM
I am new to this board and need some advice with my on again off again relationship with BPD girlfriend. We have been seeing each other for about 1 year now but we have been apart for 2 weeks .We just returned from a vacation where we had a great time. Then the rejection began again. She made excuses as to why she didn't want to get together. Everytime things start to get close between us she starts to do things to push me away, which I am used to since this has been the norm for past year. My question to the board is that this time she put a personal ad on a few dating websites, which she has never done before.In the past when we were apart I would leave her alone for 2-3 weeks and then she would call , apologize , say this breakup was not about me , but her stuff and that she does want to see me, even when she can't she does and off we would go again, lasting a month or two before it would happen again. She always told me I was the nicest guy she was ever with and nobody ever treated her better, but now she pulled back and I am a non caring person in her eyes. I don't know what to do at this point. Is the posting of the personal ad's her attempt to end this or is this just another impulsive act on her part... Please help!!!!
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trishki
05-08-2003, 11:57 PM
RUNNNN!!!! see my post under 'daughter of a narcissist' re: what my relationship was like with a guy who sounds just like your gf. it is very painful to recover from such a hot/cold relationship but my advice is get away from her, cut her off cold turkey, and begin your recovery, and look for someone good/kind/nice who is capable of sustaining a relationship.
my ex also started looking for dates via online dating, only a month after we were together - and after he told me he was 'always monogamous' and i was 'everything he'd ever wanted.'
it's going on 7 months and i'm still recovering.
i really really hope you get away from this girl.
my ex also started looking for dates via online dating, only a month after we were together - and after he told me he was 'always monogamous' and i was 'everything he'd ever wanted.'
it's going on 7 months and i'm still recovering.
i really really hope you get away from this girl.
steve48
05-09-2003, 12:27 AM
sorry to hear your pain, I feel for you. I know your advice is the best, however,I have tried to forget her in the past, but I fell in love with her, not her BPD. I know she has no control over it , though she was working on it with meds and therapy. I think that she is trying to get over the relationship by running away and dating others and the realizaton hurts me, but I know that once I get over her I will look back on it as a blessing instead of the torment and sadness I feel today.Thanks for your advice and i wish you a healthy recovery.
trishki
05-09-2003, 01:59 AM
i think you will definitely think of is at a blessing...down the road.
i'm starting to myself ;)
i'm starting to myself ;)
Rebeckah
05-09-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by steve48:
I am new to this board and need some advice with my on again off again relationship with BPD girlfriend. We have been seeing each other for about 1 year now but we have been apart for 2 weeks .We just returned from a vacation where we had a great time. Then the rejection began again. She made excuses as to why she didn't want to get together. Everytime things start to get close between us she starts to do things to push me away, which I am used to since this has been the norm for past year. My question to the board is that this time she put a personal ad on a few dating websites, which she has never done before.In the past when we were apart I would leave her alone for 2-3 weeks and then she would call , apologize , say this breakup was not about me , but her stuff and that she does want to see me, even when she can't she does and off we would go again, lasting a month or two before it would happen again. She always told me I was the nicest guy she was ever with and nobody ever treated her better, but now she pulled back and I am a non caring person in her eyes. I don't know what to do at this point. Is the posting of the personal ad's her attempt to end this or is this just another impulsive act on her part... Please help!!!!
steve48, I would say that you need to let her go and yes, I agree that you need to run. Some relations are based on conflict like yours seems to be. Ask your self why you have not left yet. What is in your backround that keeps you hanging around in a miserable relationship. Go now while you can still go. sometimes people will get so entrenched in these kinds of relationships that they NEVER do get out and miss out on finding a truly loving and mutually happy and respectful relationship. RUN.....even if your heart is not fully in it. We are hearing you here and advising you to run. Then, you may want to read a very informative book called YOU CAN HEAL YOUR LIFE, by Louise Hay. Libraries have it. I wish you peace in your life, Rebeckah
I am new to this board and need some advice with my on again off again relationship with BPD girlfriend. We have been seeing each other for about 1 year now but we have been apart for 2 weeks .We just returned from a vacation where we had a great time. Then the rejection began again. She made excuses as to why she didn't want to get together. Everytime things start to get close between us she starts to do things to push me away, which I am used to since this has been the norm for past year. My question to the board is that this time she put a personal ad on a few dating websites, which she has never done before.In the past when we were apart I would leave her alone for 2-3 weeks and then she would call , apologize , say this breakup was not about me , but her stuff and that she does want to see me, even when she can't she does and off we would go again, lasting a month or two before it would happen again. She always told me I was the nicest guy she was ever with and nobody ever treated her better, but now she pulled back and I am a non caring person in her eyes. I don't know what to do at this point. Is the posting of the personal ad's her attempt to end this or is this just another impulsive act on her part... Please help!!!!
steve48, I would say that you need to let her go and yes, I agree that you need to run. Some relations are based on conflict like yours seems to be. Ask your self why you have not left yet. What is in your backround that keeps you hanging around in a miserable relationship. Go now while you can still go. sometimes people will get so entrenched in these kinds of relationships that they NEVER do get out and miss out on finding a truly loving and mutually happy and respectful relationship. RUN.....even if your heart is not fully in it. We are hearing you here and advising you to run. Then, you may want to read a very informative book called YOU CAN HEAL YOUR LIFE, by Louise Hay. Libraries have it. I wish you peace in your life, Rebeckah
DMR
05-12-2003, 04:54 PM
Consider your breakup a blessing. I knew nothing of BPD when I married. Dating a person with BPD and marrying or living full time with one is totally 2 different things.
Get on with your life and don't look back. You will have avoided one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
I know from experience.
Get on with your life and don't look back. You will have avoided one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
I know from experience.
steve48
05-12-2003, 06:15 PM
DMR:Thanks for your reply. How long have you been married to your BP mate? Are you still together? Give me some insight into your relationship with the BP
DMR
05-15-2003, 01:36 PM
We were married for about 1 year before we divorced. (about 10 years ago) She was like Dr. Jeckyl, Mr. Hyde. Nice most of the time, acting like she was "demon possessed" at other times. She always had chaotic and evil thoughts going on in her head.
She was very abusive. Alienated me from my family. Would go into rages slamming doors and kitchen cabinets and screaming with no provocation.
It took me many years to get over it and date again. (Now happily married with a child)
You need to get the book "I Hate You, Don't Leave Me". It is on Amazon or from your local book store. It was as if the author of this book had observed my household for the year I was married to her.
Hopes this helps.
She was very abusive. Alienated me from my family. Would go into rages slamming doors and kitchen cabinets and screaming with no provocation.
It took me many years to get over it and date again. (Now happily married with a child)
You need to get the book "I Hate You, Don't Leave Me". It is on Amazon or from your local book store. It was as if the author of this book had observed my household for the year I was married to her.
Hopes this helps.
steve48
06-22-2003, 12:24 AM
I just want to give everyone an update on my situation.. It has now been about 2 months since the breakup and I have not heard a peep from her. I am trying to get on with life, though I still think about her every day. I have had 2 blind dates that didn't go past the initial meeting otherwise I have been hanging out with friends and working.I hope the pain will subside soon.
sychem
06-29-2003, 11:43 PM
Amazingly, I've gone through the same type of relationship in a 5-month period. She has broken up with me 3 times during this period, most recently after returning from vacation. After the second break-up, she also posted her image on a dating website but later removed it. It's been a rollercoaster ride. During the 5-month's, there was a 1-month period where she acted totally in love with me. She was diagniosed with OCD 10-years ago and has all the bi-polar characteristics as well. It's been 5-months of hurt for me and I am done with her. I was amazed when I read your post.
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steve48
06-30-2003, 04:29 PM
Sorry to hear about your pain. At least you figured it out in half the time I did. How are you coping? To add to my last post I just found out yesterday that my ex met someone else. I feel bad for the guy he doesn't know what he is in for, but he will find out the minute he starts to verbalize his feelings for her, oh well life goes on for me, going into the 3rd month tomorrow and still very painful.
sychem
07-02-2003, 07:34 PM
I am doing well mainly because I started taking Lexapro a couple of weeks ago. I lost 30 pounds and my doctor was worried about me. The Lexapro has really eased my dependence on her and I really don't need her. I believe that it took you and I to be in a weekened state to begin with to put up with this kind of behavior from the start. With any sense of self worth, most guys would run at the first sign of this behavior. I found her ex-boyfriend's business card and I called him the other day. He confirmed all of my suspicions and he told me some things that I did not know about her past. He refered to her as "Satan's daughter". I'm glad to be rid of her.
steve48
07-05-2003, 01:20 AM
I ran into the ex girlfiend this morning at a 7-11. It was the first time I had seen her in over 2 months. I said hello to her and she answered in a manner which which was less than glad to see you so I left , she couldn't even look at me, she had her head down Oh well I guess she moved on, painful but probably a good thing for me to have had happened, a little more closure with no mixed signals at all.
steve48
07-12-2003, 12:45 PM
I can't win. I went out on a date last night and let my date pick what we would do. She wanted movies and dinner and she picked it all. After the movie we went to eat at the place she chose and low and behold after sitting at our table for a while I excused myself and went to the mens room and on my way back noticed my ex sitting at a table with a guy. She made eye contact with me but never moved her head just her eyes, it was so weird.My date was asking me about her before this at dinner.. unreal. Within 5 minutes they got up and left yet she couldn't or wouldn't turn around to look and walked straight out the door while her date went to the men's room.Tough to take and even worse is her non emotion. I wonder if any of you out there who have had a relationship with a Borderline personality ever get the same reaction from you ex once the relationship is over or if there are any Borderlines out there who have this same reaction as well could you explain it to me. I feel like she is trying to act as if I never existed in her life or is blocking me out, it makes me feel sad.
batman33
07-16-2003, 10:48 AM
dear steve48,
i had the same abuse from a 23 year old girfriend who trie to abuse me mentally, putting me down,critize me on my looks, dressing, buy when we were together she would cling to me for dear life, then when her friends would call,to go out, she would drop me like a hot potato.i went out with her for 9 months, and one day she blew me off again to go for her own birthday party and she made it quite clear she did not want me there, this i think was because she had invited other men there who she was leading on and who were picking up her tab for the party. this is the same girl who i helped like you would not believe.i as such dumped her becaue i gave up with her selfish ways, hot and cold behaviour and realized that this would never stop.this was the way she treated me just after we had gone on holiday together where everything was great.
since i dumped her she got her sister,sister's boyfriend her mum to call me to get me back, text messaged me many times to get me back but in short have told her to get lost.
she's an acting in borderline and as such does not rage but she does si.can anybody pls tell me how do quiet borderlines react to being dumped? what do the feel and what do they do in order to get through it.she was a flirt but not a primiscuous.pls any information out there would be highly appriciated.pls email me on porsche505@aol.com
rgds
batman33
i had the same abuse from a 23 year old girfriend who trie to abuse me mentally, putting me down,critize me on my looks, dressing, buy when we were together she would cling to me for dear life, then when her friends would call,to go out, she would drop me like a hot potato.i went out with her for 9 months, and one day she blew me off again to go for her own birthday party and she made it quite clear she did not want me there, this i think was because she had invited other men there who she was leading on and who were picking up her tab for the party. this is the same girl who i helped like you would not believe.i as such dumped her becaue i gave up with her selfish ways, hot and cold behaviour and realized that this would never stop.this was the way she treated me just after we had gone on holiday together where everything was great.
since i dumped her she got her sister,sister's boyfriend her mum to call me to get me back, text messaged me many times to get me back but in short have told her to get lost.
she's an acting in borderline and as such does not rage but she does si.can anybody pls tell me how do quiet borderlines react to being dumped? what do the feel and what do they do in order to get through it.she was a flirt but not a primiscuous.pls any information out there would be highly appriciated.pls email me on porsche505@aol.com
rgds
batman33
steve48
07-17-2003, 02:38 PM
Batman I wish I could answer your question, but I cannot, I am not a Borderline, hopefully someone will be able to answer your question. I know that my ex would go from fear of engulfment to fear of abandonment in a matter of minutes. If you dumped your G/F why would you care what she is doing? Changing the subject...I bumped into my ex this morning and she was pleasant to me for the first time since the break up. I mentioned to her that it was weird bumping into her friday night and then she threw me for a bit when she said to me that I should have come over to say hello to her and her date.. how weird is that??? Can't figure her out
Asenath
08-06-2003, 10:32 AM
Steve,
A Borderline never sees beyond themself. A girl with BPD will date you, say she loves you, and not even know who you are.
Taking drugs does NOT solve the BPD problem. I know, because I've been there. In fact, it makes it worse.
If someone you are dating has admitted to BPD and is not making every effort in the world to correct the problem, drop her like a hot potato. Existential Psychotherapy has pretty good results.
A Borderline never sees beyond themself. A girl with BPD will date you, say she loves you, and not even know who you are.
Taking drugs does NOT solve the BPD problem. I know, because I've been there. In fact, it makes it worse.
If someone you are dating has admitted to BPD and is not making every effort in the world to correct the problem, drop her like a hot potato. Existential Psychotherapy has pretty good results.
steve48
08-11-2003, 01:34 PM
Asenath: Are you the one with BPD or are you or have dated someone with the disorder?
steve48
08-11-2003, 01:57 PM
Asnath: One more question: It has been over 4 months since my BPD G/F and I split(she broke it off) I met someone about a month ago and my ex has seen us out a few times. Before she saw us out she wouldn't even give me the time of day , but since she has seen me out with the new girl she has waved at me when we see each other by acident and has gone as far as telling her friend to say hello to me when she found out I would be seeing her friend.My question to you is: IS my BPD ex making a move on me and if she is should I take her at face value or is this just another ploy by a Borderline. We dated for a year and she has been in therapy for the disorder for over 10 years and she told me about her disorder in the later stages of our relationship. Most pople here sauyI should run from her what do you think?
Asenath
08-12-2003, 10:38 AM
Steve,
I was diagnosed with BPD a long time ago, and it took me a long time to overcome it.
Your former girlfriend wants to put you in her service. It is manipulative behavior, and you should avoid her altogether. Her therapy may or may not be working. Many psychologists refuse to work with Borderlines since it is viewed as a "hopeless" condition. Borderlines have a bad habit of suing their therapists, making stuff up, etc.
The ONLY way to solve the BPD problem is through intensive existential psychotherapy by a practitioner who is no-nonsense.
I was diagnosed with BPD a long time ago, and it took me a long time to overcome it.
Your former girlfriend wants to put you in her service. It is manipulative behavior, and you should avoid her altogether. Her therapy may or may not be working. Many psychologists refuse to work with Borderlines since it is viewed as a "hopeless" condition. Borderlines have a bad habit of suing their therapists, making stuff up, etc.
The ONLY way to solve the BPD problem is through intensive existential psychotherapy by a practitioner who is no-nonsense.
steve48
08-12-2003, 06:43 PM
Asenath: Maybe you could explain a few things to me since you had the disorder.Did you have manipulative behavior? was it possible for you to love someone while you had the disorder? My ex used to tell me she loved me, should I have believed her? Do yo think she will try and cntact me to get back together?iS that the reason for her complete turnaround the past few weeks? She was unable to look at me for the first few months when we passed each other or when we were in the same place, did you used to do that and if so please explain that to me? I have a lot of questions for you but I guess I will start with these.
Thanks, Steve
Thanks, Steve
steve48
08-12-2003, 06:45 PM
one last question. please expain to me what you mean by my ex putting me in her service?
BlueCat2500
08-30-2003, 07:29 AM
Oh Boy! It's not a very good picture some of you describe about us BPD. :) Not all girls are Satan daughters.lol :) Steve48 you asked if BPD got manipulative behavior, yes it can be part on our behavior, I am manipulative at time but not that much but it like other people some are manipulative some are don't. For us who got BPD we want a sence of controle, security so we can manipulate at time.
One person said we only see our feelings, our pain well it not true to all of us and also to putting others down, that really untrue for me, I never try, well rarely to put other down.
Some of you had make it sound like it was a very dangerous things to date someone who got BPD, yes it bad if she/he manipulate you, put you down and always change her/his mind about loving you or not but not all person who got BPD is the same so don't put us in the same category, you will make a big mistake.
Steve about your ex-gf who was saying she love you and after she want to brake up and you were on and off again with her, well yes we are moody and don't really know what we want. I think yes she may had love you when she say it, well I don't know but me when I love someone and say it I really mean too and if your ex-gf is like me and got the guilt feeling well she won't lie about loving someone but I am not her so I don't know.
I been threw not constructive relationship like you had been and I do think it good that you not with her any more, I don't think BPD is what had drive her to have other bfs, having put an add while dating you I think is bad and she is not consistent in what she's saying. I don't think she's a bad person, she just don't know what she want. Not all person who got BPD will cheat, it's not a criteria for BPD. :)
Take care!
Ps: By the way yes it possible for us to love when we got BPD :) and yes it can be true that your ex-gf love you when she said she did but like I said I am not her, so I don't know.
One person said we only see our feelings, our pain well it not true to all of us and also to putting others down, that really untrue for me, I never try, well rarely to put other down.
Some of you had make it sound like it was a very dangerous things to date someone who got BPD, yes it bad if she/he manipulate you, put you down and always change her/his mind about loving you or not but not all person who got BPD is the same so don't put us in the same category, you will make a big mistake.
Steve about your ex-gf who was saying she love you and after she want to brake up and you were on and off again with her, well yes we are moody and don't really know what we want. I think yes she may had love you when she say it, well I don't know but me when I love someone and say it I really mean too and if your ex-gf is like me and got the guilt feeling well she won't lie about loving someone but I am not her so I don't know.
I been threw not constructive relationship like you had been and I do think it good that you not with her any more, I don't think BPD is what had drive her to have other bfs, having put an add while dating you I think is bad and she is not consistent in what she's saying. I don't think she's a bad person, she just don't know what she want. Not all person who got BPD will cheat, it's not a criteria for BPD. :)
Take care!
Ps: By the way yes it possible for us to love when we got BPD :) and yes it can be true that your ex-gf love you when she said she did but like I said I am not her, so I don't know.
steve48
08-30-2003, 07:04 PM
Thanks Bluecat for your input. I guess we shouldn't group all BPD's behavior together. I agree my ex doesn't know what she wants but her pattern of meeting someone and falling for them in a short period of time is where she is at right now.I hope she can find true love in a monogamous relationship some day. take care and thanks again .
AnF16
10-23-2003, 09:56 AM
yer steve i know they may seem really cold, but they are just lonely people really. I experienced a few symptoms of BPD in my younger years but seem to have "grown out of" it. At the same time however, you must put your interest firsts, which is - not having your life dictated by a person who cant help their condition. Still talk and be nice to her..but don't get involved with her..
steve48
10-27-2003, 11:46 PM
Thanks ANF, She has met someone else and has started the pattern all over again, I am sure of that.She has not contacted me in since the break up, other than a hello in passing. I also met someone a few months ago and this person is the total opposite of the BPD ex and that is a blessing for me, though there is a part of me that still thinks about her occasionally.
VeganLady
10-29-2003, 12:33 AM
BPD isn't the most liked disorder. I once saw an article in a men's magazine on how to tell if someone had BPD, and, pretty much, how to run away from them. It was a joke and I found it offensive.
I have BPD and have been in a stable relationship for several years. So, to answer your question, yes, people with BPD can love. If you ex g/f said she loved you, than she probably meant it. Being with someone who has BPD takes a lot of work, love and understanding. Also, I think you asked about manipulative behavior. Very common of BPD. Sometimes, I manipulate my b/f by hurting myself and making it seem like his fault. I believe this symptom is the hardest to understand and deal with.
Even though some people with BPD can have relationships, from what I understand, it was best you and your g/f broke up. It didn't seem if she was trying to get any better. Sometimes therapy just doesn't do it. It takes inner power and lots of support to even begin to fight BPD.
Being with a borderline who isn't, or isn't trying to, make any progress is just too stressful. Try to forget about her and move on. Don't stress if she acts weird when she sees you. Just shrug it off and go on with your life.
Good luck to you. :)
I have BPD and have been in a stable relationship for several years. So, to answer your question, yes, people with BPD can love. If you ex g/f said she loved you, than she probably meant it. Being with someone who has BPD takes a lot of work, love and understanding. Also, I think you asked about manipulative behavior. Very common of BPD. Sometimes, I manipulate my b/f by hurting myself and making it seem like his fault. I believe this symptom is the hardest to understand and deal with.
Even though some people with BPD can have relationships, from what I understand, it was best you and your g/f broke up. It didn't seem if she was trying to get any better. Sometimes therapy just doesn't do it. It takes inner power and lots of support to even begin to fight BPD.
Being with a borderline who isn't, or isn't trying to, make any progress is just too stressful. Try to forget about her and move on. Don't stress if she acts weird when she sees you. Just shrug it off and go on with your life.
Good luck to you. :)
steve48
10-29-2003, 07:07 PM
Thanks Veganlady, I am trying to move on now, I am questioning myself as to what made me stay a whole year in a relationship where all the red flags were out there saying run yet I stayed, took the emotional abuse and was willing to take more when she broke up with me for the 10th and final time.
carrad
11-19-2003, 11:01 PM
steve its horrible that yr hurting. but u r lucky to be free from her. sounds horrible i know. but bpd can be helped. she can help the way she behaves but it takes time and alot of work. until then she isnt reallyy capable of having a proper relatiionship with anyone. with people with pds thats their main problem. that they dont interact normally with other people and the world around them. of course u r hurting but it will get better. move on.perhaps if she gets help u may be able to hook up later.
take care. bye:)
take care. bye:)
steve48
11-21-2003, 11:27 AM
steve its horrible that yr hurting. but u r lucky to be free from her. sounds horrible i know. but bpd can be helped. she can help the way she behaves but it takes time and alot of work. until then she isnt reallyy capable of having a proper relatiionship with anyone. with people with pds thats their main problem. that they dont interact normally with other people and the world around them. of course u r hurting but it will get better. move on.perhaps if she gets help u may be able to hook up later.
take care. bye:)
Thanks Carrad, I have moved on for the most part. I have not had any contact with her in over 2 months and the last time I saw her it looked like she met someone else. The last thing she said to me was that she hoped we could put all the nastiness we had in the past behind us like water under the bridge. I have been seeing someone for a few months who is the complete opposite of the ex but I still think about her and never really had closure, but I guess you don't always get it. I would be surprised if we ever get back together since I will not contact her and I have heard that the BPD person never goes back because they think that there is no way the non bp would want them.
take care. bye:)
Thanks Carrad, I have moved on for the most part. I have not had any contact with her in over 2 months and the last time I saw her it looked like she met someone else. The last thing she said to me was that she hoped we could put all the nastiness we had in the past behind us like water under the bridge. I have been seeing someone for a few months who is the complete opposite of the ex but I still think about her and never really had closure, but I guess you don't always get it. I would be surprised if we ever get back together since I will not contact her and I have heard that the BPD person never goes back because they think that there is no way the non bp would want them.
steve48
12-04-2003, 05:06 PM
I ran into my ex last week at a place where she never liked to go to when we were dating and I was told by a friend that she was there a few days earlier as well, both times with her friend. The place was crowded but I know she saw me and I was alone at the time so I went over and said hello to her and her friend. She was cordial, though her friend gave me a big smile and hello. I asked my ex why she was there, to which she had no reply, then I said I thought you hated it here and she said we were just leaving.We caught up a little about what was going on with our kids and then she left. About a hour later my cell rang and it was her, this was the first time she has called me since we split back in May, she asked me to do her a favor and get her friend to go to the place she was going to and I said I would. A few hours later she called me again and asked me if i did tell her friend, and I said I did. She said for me to have a great rest of the night and a great turkey day. Any of you got a take on this?Am I reading something into this that isn't there. I would appreciate any comments especially from any BPD's.
septrax
05-24-2004, 01:51 PM
I red your post beacuse it really stuck out to me. My bf also has or so what i think he has bpd and he acts almost identical to how your saying your girlfrind acts. I have been with him for 3years now and it really hasn't gotten any better he also pushes me away when we start to get close again and it just becomes a pattern. It's even worse to live with someone who has this disorder they tend to put the blame on you for anything and everything. I don't think that that was a last attemept for your girlfriend to really end things i just think that she might of went too far. You really should make a desicion about her cause i'm telling you right now better sooner then later once you have been with her longer it will be harder and from my experince they really don't change unless they get help.
steve48
05-24-2004, 04:22 PM
Thanks for your input Septrax.
I wrote that last post back in November 2003, I believe, and I hadn't heard from her all winter long but low and behold come the end of April the emails started,,, a phone call and a few bump into each others but nothing other than a hi how are you and catching up on each other since the last time, but nothing else was mentioned. It is over a year since we split so I am finally over her but there was apart of me that would have been drawn into her again had she pursued me, so I am glad she didn't. If there is any thing I can do for you please feel free to anser this post.
Steve
I wrote that last post back in November 2003, I believe, and I hadn't heard from her all winter long but low and behold come the end of April the emails started,,, a phone call and a few bump into each others but nothing other than a hi how are you and catching up on each other since the last time, but nothing else was mentioned. It is over a year since we split so I am finally over her but there was apart of me that would have been drawn into her again had she pursued me, so I am glad she didn't. If there is any thing I can do for you please feel free to anser this post.
Steve