bleubird
11-14-2003, 01:19 AM
I must say I never even dreamed I would have to ask this .... but I have a question about these genital warts.... can a person get them even if their partner isn't showing any signs of them?
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Meg28
11-14-2003, 02:25 AM
Hi!
It is very possible to get the warts even when his warts are "hiding". Yes, the chances do go down but this disease does not go away. It's there even when you can't see them. ALWAYS use a condom in this situation. Actually some suggest abstaining from sex altogether when the warts are visible.
Good luck!
Meg
It is very possible to get the warts even when his warts are "hiding". Yes, the chances do go down but this disease does not go away. It's there even when you can't see them. ALWAYS use a condom in this situation. Actually some suggest abstaining from sex altogether when the warts are visible.
Good luck!
Meg
devastated
11-14-2003, 09:28 AM
the answer is YES! many, many people carry the HPV virus without ever getting ANY visible warts, and merely pass it along to other partners, never knowing that they even carry the virus.
bleubird
11-14-2003, 09:29 AM
So do the doctors test this through a pap test or just look at them? I'm soooo upset right now!!!! I haven't used protection in years but why should I since I've been married to him and I have never been with anyone but him!!! I found out my husband was cheating on me 2 years ago and he swears hes not anymore but I am pretty sure I got something !!!
vickikt
11-14-2003, 12:04 PM
So do the doctors test this through a pap test or just look at them? I'm soooo upset right now!!!! I haven't used protection in years but why should I since I've been married to him and I have never been with anyone but him!!! I found out my husband was cheating on me 2 years ago and he swears hes not anymore but I am pretty sure I got something !!!
I know that a pap smear can help to dignose the virus, but if they receive an abnormal pap they have you come in and run further testing. Sometimes warts are visible sometimes they are not. It is also dependent on the area of the warts. I would definitely mention your concern to your doctor so they look more closing to see if you are infected.
I know how hard this must be. I am currently in the process of divorcing my husband. He cheated on me too. It take awhile for the virus to actually form. You can be a carrier and not have signs yet. One thing also to note that you can get warts even using a condom if they are on the outter part of the skin. I hope everything works out for you. I hope this is somewhat helpful.
I know that a pap smear can help to dignose the virus, but if they receive an abnormal pap they have you come in and run further testing. Sometimes warts are visible sometimes they are not. It is also dependent on the area of the warts. I would definitely mention your concern to your doctor so they look more closing to see if you are infected.
I know how hard this must be. I am currently in the process of divorcing my husband. He cheated on me too. It take awhile for the virus to actually form. You can be a carrier and not have signs yet. One thing also to note that you can get warts even using a condom if they are on the outter part of the skin. I hope everything works out for you. I hope this is somewhat helpful.
bleubird
11-14-2003, 12:44 PM
Thanks, I did just call my doctor he's going to see me next monday... so I have a whole week wondering.... I know after I get the results my husband better pray they are normal. I'm not even telling him I'm being checked or I think something is up. If I am right though he better hope that his stuff is still in one piece when he gets home from work and everything he owns is right beside the trash .....
This is very embarrassing to have to do this. I feel like I need to explain everything . I don't want the doctor to think its me!! Then I cry ..... I don't want to say why I am being checked either :(
Ugh .... I'm going to the gym now and get a really good work out ..... I started kickboxing recently ..... that ought to tire me out enough to want to crash afterwards and not think about this .....
Thanks!
This is very embarrassing to have to do this. I feel like I need to explain everything . I don't want the doctor to think its me!! Then I cry ..... I don't want to say why I am being checked either :(
Ugh .... I'm going to the gym now and get a really good work out ..... I started kickboxing recently ..... that ought to tire me out enough to want to crash afterwards and not think about this .....
Thanks!
devastated
11-14-2003, 02:53 PM
Good luck with your testing bleubird. When you go to your doctor, you could just tell him/her that your partner was unfaithful, and you want to be tested for everything, just in case. The doctor won't be passing judgment on you, either way, that's what they're there for, and what they do on a daily basis. GYN's always advise that anytime you have a new partner, you should be tested too, just for health maintenance, even if you don't have symptoms. Specify also that you want tested for herpes (herpes, along with HPV can be caught even if condoms are used), because they won't test for that unless you specifically ask. I had to do this in the past too, due to a cheating spouse. Unfortunately, there is no test for HPV available. Yes, a PAP smear can pick up the cervical changes that an HPV infection may cause, but HPV usually takes quite a while to cause cervical changes to appear, and it is possible to have HPV without ever having cervical changes take place, so a clear PAP does NOT mean that you are HPV free. Did you ask your husband to get tested for STD's after you found out about the infidelity?
devastated
11-14-2003, 02:55 PM
Bleubird, are you having actual symptoms, or are you just worrying that your hubby may have caught something and given it to you?
bleubird
11-14-2003, 03:03 PM
I did ask him and he said he did and he was ok. Now I'm thinking thats not true that but never did get checked. Or maybe his fling wasn't faithful to him either. I am starting to get these hard wart like bumps down there and they hurt. They started a few months ago and went away so I didn't think much of it. But now they are back and more bothersome than before. It maybe something else wrong with me but I don't know.
aab77
11-14-2003, 03:08 PM
even if he did get tested, which lets hope he didnt lie :nono: .. they probably wouldnt test for HPV. actually i dont knoe if they even can test guys for .. it just goes by whether they show symptoms.
KimRick
11-17-2003, 11:59 AM
There is a test for HPV out there, it's called the HPV Digene test. I'm not sure how it works, but it does tell you which strains you have.
devastated
11-17-2003, 12:12 PM
There is a test for HPV out there, it's called the HPV Digene test. I'm not sure how it works, but it does tell you which strains you have.
Yes, but if I am not mistaken, the Digene test is used in conjunction with a PAP smear, is only for women, and not many clinics or doctors use this test yet. There is still no HPV test available to the public for men.
Yes, but if I am not mistaken, the Digene test is used in conjunction with a PAP smear, is only for women, and not many clinics or doctors use this test yet. There is still no HPV test available to the public for men.
KimRick
11-17-2003, 12:20 PM
Correct, for men, unless there's a visible wart, there's really no way of telling and you can be infected without ever displaying a wart.
devastated
11-17-2003, 02:21 PM
Correct, for men, unless there's a visible wart, there's really no way of telling and you can be infected without ever displaying a wart.
Yea, it's wierd that they can't (or just haven't) develop a blood test that tests for anitobidies to HPV, like the tests they have for herpes and HIV.....I guess maybe it's hard because of there being so many different strains of the virus.....really would be nice though...
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Yea, it's wierd that they can't (or just haven't) develop a blood test that tests for anitobidies to HPV, like the tests they have for herpes and HIV.....I guess maybe it's hard because of there being so many different strains of the virus.....really would be nice though...
:)
hollygirl05
11-18-2003, 10:12 PM
If a woman has recently had a pap test and the test came back normal, Is there still a chance of her having herpes? My friend had one recently and was wondering about her boyfriend giving her herpes. He has cheated on her before but he doesn't show any signs of it.
Spiderman
11-18-2003, 10:45 PM
i wouldnt think twice about getting the herpes select or western blot done hollygirl. Thats the way to see if you have herpes. I did both those tests and feel relieved
aab77
11-18-2003, 11:43 PM
pap smears do not test for herpes, they test for cervical abnormalities. So, in other words.. yes there is a chance of her having herpes. To test for herpes a doctor can either do a swab test of a lesion or a blood test.
If a woman has recently had a pap test and the test came back normal, Is there still a chance of her having herpes? My friend had one recently and was wondering about her boyfriend giving her herpes. He has cheated on her before but he doesn't show any signs of it.
If a woman has recently had a pap test and the test came back normal, Is there still a chance of her having herpes? My friend had one recently and was wondering about her boyfriend giving her herpes. He has cheated on her before but he doesn't show any signs of it.
devastated
11-19-2003, 08:21 AM
If a woman has recently had a pap test and the test came back normal, Is there still a chance of her having herpes? My friend had one recently and was wondering about her boyfriend giving her herpes. He has cheated on her before but he doesn't show any signs of it.
Sorry, but a PAP test does NOT detect herpes. A PAP test is not an STD test, it only tests for changes in the cervix that may, or may not, be caused by an STD. A woman could have 5 different STD's, and still have a clear PAP test. The only way for your friend to know is to be tested by a real STD test. Herpes is tested by a blood test if there are no symptoms present. Your friend should also be tested for everything else, especially given that her boyfriend cheated on her.
Sorry, but a PAP test does NOT detect herpes. A PAP test is not an STD test, it only tests for changes in the cervix that may, or may not, be caused by an STD. A woman could have 5 different STD's, and still have a clear PAP test. The only way for your friend to know is to be tested by a real STD test. Herpes is tested by a blood test if there are no symptoms present. Your friend should also be tested for everything else, especially given that her boyfriend cheated on her.
hollygirl05
11-19-2003, 10:28 PM
Hi, Thanks for the replies. My friend said she is going to get checked. She hasn't noticed any ulcers or bumps or anything but she has been having a discharge whitish in color, lots of itching, the vulva is irritated and burns when she urinates. Her anus hurts when she has a bowel movement and sometimes has a little blood. She says it feel like the skin by her anus feels like it has a cut or something. She thought it was a yeast infection but tried monastat twice with no help. She's really upset about the whole thing. I'll let you know what her doctor says. Thanks for the help.
yodiggity
11-20-2003, 01:12 PM
Hollygirl,
The pain in her anus could be hemorrhoids. A nuisance but not the end of the world. They are very common and have many remedies to relieve. The best thing your friend could do is to get checked by a doctor. Stop speculating and go. Go with her for moral support if needed. I'm sure she'll appreciate all your doing for her.
The pain in her anus could be hemorrhoids. A nuisance but not the end of the world. They are very common and have many remedies to relieve. The best thing your friend could do is to get checked by a doctor. Stop speculating and go. Go with her for moral support if needed. I'm sure she'll appreciate all your doing for her.
junkbondtrader
11-20-2003, 02:00 PM
bleubird,
i understand your anger! your husband cheating on you is bollocks. as for hpv and seeing a doctor about it... yes, you can get it from someone who shows no visible signs. and you may in fact have contracted it. but even if it turns out you do have it, don't worry too much. DEFINITELY see a doctor, but realize that this is a VERY very common std, and gynos refer to it as "the common cold" of std's. there are tons of people living with this and it doesn't have to make you feel horrible/shameful/guilty/dirty/whatever. if i were you, i'd take that energy and channel it into getting out of your relationship, it sounds like this guy's not doing you any favors...the stinker.
i understand your anger! your husband cheating on you is bollocks. as for hpv and seeing a doctor about it... yes, you can get it from someone who shows no visible signs. and you may in fact have contracted it. but even if it turns out you do have it, don't worry too much. DEFINITELY see a doctor, but realize that this is a VERY very common std, and gynos refer to it as "the common cold" of std's. there are tons of people living with this and it doesn't have to make you feel horrible/shameful/guilty/dirty/whatever. if i were you, i'd take that energy and channel it into getting out of your relationship, it sounds like this guy's not doing you any favors...the stinker.
JsGirl
12-01-2003, 09:10 PM
I am wondering something. When I first met my current boyfriend, he had given me Herpes. A couple months ago I had an abnormal pap smear, which turned out to be HPV. I have been faithful to him 100%, so I know that it had to be him that I got these from. Is it possible for him to just be a carrier of either of these STD's. He is now concerned that I cheapted on him, since he has NEVER had any signs or symptoms of either one. He was a major slut too!!! So can he NEVER have had a symptom or sign of either of these, but still have given it to me? I know who I have slept with, and honestly, since I have been with him, I have never once cheated on him. Help !!!
aab77
12-01-2003, 10:28 PM
ok. you could have had either one with no symptoms before you even met him. OR he could have given you both. You wont be able to figure that out. Let him know that you didnt cheat on him, and dont let him feel guilty. Dont blame him either, because if you have ever slept with or had any genital-to genital touching with anyone else EVER, you could have gotten it from them. You could have even gotten herpes from someone with oral herpes (cold sores) giving you oral sex.
I am wondering something. When I first met my current boyfriend, he had given me Herpes. A couple months ago I had an abnormal pap smear, which turned out to be HPV. I have been faithful to him 100%, so I know that it had to be him that I got these from. Is it possible for him to just be a carrier of either of these STD's. He is now concerned that I cheapted on him, since he has NEVER had any signs or symptoms of either one. He was a major slut too!!! So can he NEVER have had a symptom or sign of either of these, but still have given it to me? I know who I have slept with, and honestly, since I have been with him, I have never once cheated on him. Help !!!
I am wondering something. When I first met my current boyfriend, he had given me Herpes. A couple months ago I had an abnormal pap smear, which turned out to be HPV. I have been faithful to him 100%, so I know that it had to be him that I got these from. Is it possible for him to just be a carrier of either of these STD's. He is now concerned that I cheapted on him, since he has NEVER had any signs or symptoms of either one. He was a major slut too!!! So can he NEVER have had a symptom or sign of either of these, but still have given it to me? I know who I have slept with, and honestly, since I have been with him, I have never once cheated on him. Help !!!
devastated
12-02-2003, 09:10 AM
Is it possible for him to just be a carrier of either of these STD's. He is now concerned that I cheapted on him, since he has NEVER had any signs or symptoms of either one. He was a major slut too!!! So can he NEVER have had a symptom or sign of either of these, but still have given it to me? I know who I have slept with, and honestly, since I have been with him, I have never once cheated on him. Help !!!
YES, very possible indeed. Have you ever had visible warts, or only the abnormal PAP? See, most of the strains of HPV that cause cervical changes (the high risk strains) do not cause visible warts. These strains are carried by men, who never produce symptoms, so if your boyfriend did give you a strain that doesn't produce warts, just cervical changes, then he would not show any symptoms of being infected, and probably never will. It is also impossible to test a male to see if he is carrying the HPV virus. As far as the herpes diagnosis, were you type tested? If it is type 1, you probably were infected via oral sex. Has your boyfriend ever had a coldsore? Most people, about 80% of the population aged 14 and over actually, are infected orally with herpes, and about 90% of those infected have no idea because they don't get the usual symptoms (coldsores). This is how I contracted herpes, from my boyfriend's mouth.
YES, very possible indeed. Have you ever had visible warts, or only the abnormal PAP? See, most of the strains of HPV that cause cervical changes (the high risk strains) do not cause visible warts. These strains are carried by men, who never produce symptoms, so if your boyfriend did give you a strain that doesn't produce warts, just cervical changes, then he would not show any symptoms of being infected, and probably never will. It is also impossible to test a male to see if he is carrying the HPV virus. As far as the herpes diagnosis, were you type tested? If it is type 1, you probably were infected via oral sex. Has your boyfriend ever had a coldsore? Most people, about 80% of the population aged 14 and over actually, are infected orally with herpes, and about 90% of those infected have no idea because they don't get the usual symptoms (coldsores). This is how I contracted herpes, from my boyfriend's mouth.