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lilygirl
11-19-2003, 11:50 AM
Where can I get the products for this? What are the side effects? Who on here has tryed it? Does this really work? Does it make you break out? Is it dangerous?

helpmyself
11-19-2003, 04:27 PM
Do a yahoo search for ozone therapy as well as for Dr. Saul Pressman. He wrote a book on the subject and it can be found online for free. In it, he answers most (if not all) of the questions that you just asked. Also,look around book websites for topics such as oxygen and ozone, there you can find numerous books talking about ozone uses and effectiveness. I've tried the Ozone Sauna, it was wonderful. I personally will start with the ozone generator (which more info can be found by doing a search). But basically a generator is used to get ozone into the body by various protocols. The ozone can get through the body when in a steam sauna because the pores are open and the ozone can sink through.
Another way is by insufflation. There are three types of insufflation- rectal, vaginal, and ear. For example, ear insufflation is when one end of a tube is hooked up to the ozone generator and the other is placed in your ear. The generator is turned on at the correct flow rate and ozone is then distributed into your ear (very slowly).
Another way is to drink ozonated water which can be made from the generator.
Unfortunately, generators (good ones) are not cheap. Expect to pay around $2000 for the generator and all its accessories (oxygen tank, regulator and tubing,ect).
Anoother way of using the generator, esp. for H is by funneling...which means that you hook up a funnel to the generator and place this on the lower spine (where H lives), that is supposed to help stir up the virus. (so I've heard).
But as mentioned always, You must do your own research to find out if this or any other therapy or treatment is good for you. I've find this information out by asking around and researching, so please do the same, as it is so important!

lilygirl
11-20-2003, 09:51 AM
Do a yahoo search for ozone therapy as well as for Dr. Saul Pressman. He wrote a book on the subject and it can be found online for free. In it, he answers most (if not all) of the questions that you just asked. Also,look around book websites for topics such as oxygen and ozone, there you can find numerous books talking about ozone uses and effectiveness. I've tried the Ozone Sauna, it was wonderful. I personally will start with the ozone generator (which more info can be found by doing a search). But basically a generator is used to get ozone into the body by various protocols. The ozone can get through the body when in a steam sauna because the pores are open and the ozone can sink through.
Another way is by insufflation. There are three types of insufflation- rectal, vaginal, and ear. For example, ear insufflation is when one end of a tube is hooked up to the ozone generator and the other is placed in your ear. The generator is turned on at the correct flow rate and ozone is then distributed into your ear (very slowly).
Another way is to drink ozonated water which can be made from the generator.
Unfortunately, generators (good ones) are not cheap. Expect to pay around $2000 for the generator and all its accessories (oxygen tank, regulator and tubing,ect).
Anoother way of using the generator, esp. for H is by funneling...which means that you hook up a funnel to the generator and place this on the lower spine (where H lives), that is supposed to help stir up the virus. (so I've heard).
But as mentioned always, You must do your own research to find out if this or any other therapy or treatment is good for you. I've find this information out by asking around and researching, so please do the same, as it is so important!


Wow ,,,jese,,,thank you. Yes I take meds but would slowly like to get off them would like to try herbs as another option. What really makes me sad and mad actually is how crooked our government is by not letting such information out as I've read some Doctors were put in jail for practicing or drawing conclusions through Ozone therapy. Which has a high sucess rate. ...That really steams my beam as I'm sure it does for everyone.

thanks for the info

Nonexist
11-21-2003, 09:25 AM
I’ve tried 2 of the oxygen treatments, H2O2 orally and a DMSO/H2O2 mixture topically. It made me feel better than I knew it was possible to feel, and pretty much ended my terrible, weekly OBs for a year and a half and counting. Although, I must say that I do still get the odd tingle, maybe a little blemish here and there that may or may not be the virus. Whether it is or isn’t, I have my life back. I did go through a bad healing reaction from these treatments, though it was worth it by far! You can minimize the healing reaction by starting off with a low dose and working up very gradually.

As far as being dangerous, it can be. The strength of the H2O2 is 35% (food grade), not the 3% variety from the drug store, which contains stabilizers and shouldn’t be used internally. At 35%, one drop will blind you or burn your skin. It looks like water and has no smell, and is easily fatal within minutes if consumed at full strength. Some believe that it is corrosive to the stomach even diluted according to oxygenation protocols. I think that may be a possibility if you take it over a long term, but without proper ozone treatments available through the medical industry, I was willing to take the risk. What kind of a free country forces its citizens into that kind of position?

Herpes is worth $1.5 billion annually to the medical industry. Medical schools get a lot of research money through multinational pharmaceuticals, and oxygen is not patentable and cheap, therefore unprofitable. So, they won’t give money to research something that would take away their $1.5 billion, and not replace it with anything. Also, I’m sure you’ve all noticed how doctors just seem to not really know a whole lot about herpes. Med school won’t teach things that aren’t in the corporate interest, because that’s where the money comes from. These corporations also donate to political campaigns, and if government funded this research, it would cut off this money. The system is set up so that everything comes down to money. Add to that the fact that 95% of the wealth is in the hands of 5% of the people, and we have our answer as to how a medical miracle like ozone can be covered up and vilified like it is.

I say burn ‘em to the ground before they kill us all.

Nonexist

lilygirl
11-21-2003, 10:08 AM
I’ve tried 2 of the oxygen treatments, H2O2 orally and a DMSO/H2O2 mixture topically. It made me feel better than I knew it was possible to feel, and pretty much ended my terrible, weekly OBs for a year and a half and counting. Although, I must say that I do still get the odd tingle, maybe a little blemish here and there that may or may not be the virus. Whether it is or isn’t, I have my life back. I did go through a bad healing reaction from these treatments, though it was worth it by far! You can minimize the healing reaction by starting off with a low dose and working up very gradually.

As far as being dangerous, it can be. The strength of the H2O2 is 35% (food grade), not the 3% variety from the drug store, which contains stabilizers and shouldn’t be used internally. At 35%, one drop will blind you or burn your skin. It looks like water and has no smell, and is easily fatal within minutes if consumed at full strength. Some believe that it is corrosive to the stomach even diluted according to oxygenation protocols. I think that may be a possibility if you take it over a long term, but without proper ozone treatments available through the medical industry, I was willing to take the risk. What kind of a free country forces its citizens into that kind of position?

Herpes is worth $1.5 billion annually to the medical industry. Medical schools get a lot of research money through multinational pharmaceuticals, and oxygen is not patentable and cheap, therefore unprofitable. So, they won’t give money to research something that would take away their $1.5 billion, and not replace it with anything. Also, I’m sure you’ve all noticed how doctors just seem to not really know a whole lot about herpes. Med school won’t teach things that aren’t in the corporate interest, because that’s where the money comes from. These corporations also donate to political campaigns, and if government funded this research, it would cut off this money. The system is set up so that everything comes down to money. Add to that the fact that 95% of the wealth is in the hands of 5% of the people, and we have our answer as to how a medical miracle like ozone can be covered up and vilified like it is.

I say burn ‘em to the ground before they kill us all.

Nonexist

thank you...
and yes our gov't is disgusting. Is this treatment legal in USA.? No right?

helpmyself
11-21-2003, 11:23 AM
In some states alternative therapy such as this is okay. I don't know the specifics of which one. I spoke to a doctor in Arizona about this and asked if they were allowed to be doing this, and the doctor said that it is looked down upon, but they don't feel they're in any danger. I just guess it depends on the situation. Other doctors have been arrested and prosecuted for publicy defending Ozone. I think that if you keep the operation low key, then they won't come after you.

To Nonexist...are you still using the H2O2 and DMSO? Or did you stop once your OBs stopped??

Nonexist
11-24-2003, 09:10 AM
I stopped even before all my OBs were completely gone, because I got a little freaked out because the healing reaction was so severe. I never touched it since then. The oral and topical treatment combined was just too much and my detox happened too fast. My goal was to stop and see what my OB pattern would be like, and then start over more gradually. I waited and waited, but never got anything more than an odd tingle and, on maybe 3 occassions over the past year, a tiny pimple.

I don't know, maybe I'm just asymptomatic and the oxygen therapy was useless. But, the reason I'm convinced that this really helped is how great it made me feel, regardless of what it did to the herpes virus. I even remember a sort of "moment of clarity" as I was walking through the parking lot at work like I did every day and I noticed a smell I never smelled before, a pleasant woodsy smell. It took a few seconds to realize it was the shrubs I walked past every single day for that whole summer. I recalled a testimonial I read about how the oral H2O2 can cause your sinuses to drain heavily, removing a lifetime of environmental toxin build-up, and leaving you with a heightened sense of smell. I say "heightened", but it's really just getting back the sensitivity that is gradually lost through contamination. Everything the literature said would happen, did happen, and the industry is still trying to discredit it.

Nonexist

Artemesia
11-28-2003, 04:04 PM
I am using an oxygenating product call oxy heal with GREAT success.
Check out the following links.

I recommend you buy the book "Never an Outbreak"

http://www.neveranoutbreak.com/

http://www.brainmachines.com/body_oxygenating_viruses.html

http://www.hsv-free.com/index.htm

Good Luck

Artemesia

movingrightalong
11-28-2003, 05:11 PM
That's awesome that you're finding success with the Oxy Heal. I tried it and while the oral part seemed to be OK the Oxy-DMSO wreaked havoc on me. Made me have a crazy OB like I had never had before and while I know that this is "typical".. to have a severe OB in the beginning, it was a little too scary for me. I'm just curious because I've thought to try it again, did you have any reaction when you first started the treatment?

Bobdobbs
11-29-2003, 12:53 PM
In late August I used Nonexist's approach, taking 35% H2O2 drops in a glass of water orally. I was up to the max. 25 drops/day for about a month before I quit. The only other thing I was taking was Lysine.

I continued to have outbreaks until I hit 25 drops/day. After that I didn't get any more. Since stopping late Oct. I haven't had any although there was one day recently where I did get some tingling in the usual outbreak area. I was getting outbreaks every 15-20 days like clockwork.

I've done this protocol before, although that was a long time ago and before I had these problems, so I knew what to expect. During the second week or so I had some die-off symptoms, which for me were headaches, feeling tired and not wanting to do much. This stopped after about 3 days. As I continued to increase the dosage of the H2O2 I noticed the outbreaks were happening more frequently. I think this is because during the H2O2 therapy your immune system is burdened with cleaning up the garbage from the die off and oxidizing of other stored toxins and garbage. For me these weren't particularly bad and a dab of the 35% H2O2 applied directly to the affected area eliminated the outbreak within 24 hours. NOTE: my outbreaks are on my hand, so this skin area is not that sensitive. Using full-strength 35% H2O2 directly on your skin can burn skin and should only be attempted very carefully.

I've been living a very healthy lifestyle for several years, so my internal toxicity level is probably pretty low. I think this is why I didn't receive much of a die off reaction or really terrible outbreaks while on the H2O2.

During the time I was taking the H2O2 I also (like Nonexist) felt *great*. The sustained energy surge you get while doing oxygen therapies (I've also done ozonated water) is similar to the training-effect athletes get when they reach peak performance. For me the sustained energy level was unreal. The oxygen is used everywhere by your body and in particular it increases energy and helps your body remove toxins and built-up garbage. I think this is the reason some people get really insane outbreaks while taking H2O2 because they have a lot of stored toxins that begin to be released and transported out of the body while on the therapy. This burdens the immune system which can't keep the infection down as readily during this time.

It's too soon to say whether or not the course of 35% H2O2 that I did has eliminated the infection, put it into remission, or just postponed outbreaks for awhile. I will keep everybody posted.

 
 
 




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