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72and78love
12-14-2003, 04:45 PM
I had a fractured right arm that was in a cast for a long time, almost 5 months. My thumb nail had ridges in it pretty bad and my fignernails a lil bit only on the casted arm. I think that means you are lacking a vitamin...anyone know which one? Its just odd to me that it was only on the casted arm. Thanks

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Marti
12-15-2003, 09:06 AM
I had a fractured right arm that was in a cast for a long time, almost 5 months. My thumb nail had ridges in it pretty bad and my fignernails a lil bit only on the casted arm. I think that means you are lacking a vitamin...anyone know which one? Its just odd to me that it was only on the casted arm. Thanks

Actually, the nail plate is just dried out on that hand, whch could be a reault of having to wear a cast for so long and not getting the nails 'wet' as you normally would. Ridging is not due to a lack of vitamins, but a lack of natural oils and moisture in the nail plate. What you are seeing as 'ridges' are actually the rails and grooves upon which the nail plate rides forward - much like a train rides forward on its tracks. When the plate becomes dried out for whatever reason, these rails and grooves become more prominent/visible as surface ridging.

Go to a Sally Beauty supply and purchase a bottle of Botanical Oil in the nail department. Apply it to the nail surface and massage into the nails and the cuticles. Do this several times a day, but always at night or after having your hands in water. Water will 'wick' the moisture from the nail plate and leave them even drier.

If you use the oil at least 3-4 times a day, you will see results within one month.

girlygirly
12-15-2003, 10:48 AM
Line and ridges in nail are a symptom of hypothyroidism. You may want to go on the thyroid board to see if you have any other symptoms.

Marti
12-15-2003, 11:14 AM
Line and ridges in nail are a symptom of hypothyroidism. You may want to go on the thyroid board to see if you have any other symptoms.

Hypothyroidism 'may' cause the rails and grooves of the nail bed to be seen on the surface of the nail plate; however - when it effects only ONE HAND, it is generally a sign of depleated oil and moisture levels within the nail plate itself.

If the ridging is due to an internal disorder, it would effect all 10 nails.

I have visible ridging on both thumbnails and have had since I was in my early 30's. I am now 55 years old and do not have thyroid disease in any way, shape or form. What I have is inherited (from my Mother) and does benefit somewhat by daily applications of Botanical Oil or Solar Oil. The ridges are visible to the eye, but not when I touch the nail plate surface - it is still smooth.

If the ridges run from the cuticle to the free edge vertically and not horizontially, then it is just a dry nail plate. If the ridges are horizontal, it is generally due to some sort of systemic disease, but will usually effect all 10 nails.

girlygirly
12-15-2003, 11:29 AM
Hypothyroidism 'may' cause the rails and grooves of the nail bed to be seen on the surface of the nail plate; however - when it effects only ONE HAND, it is generally a sign of depleated oil and moisture levels within the nail plate itself.

If the ridging is due to an internal disorder, it would effect all 10 nails.

I have visible ridging on both thumbnails and have had since I was in my early 30's. I am now 55 years old and do not have thyroid disease in any way, shape or form. What I have is inherited (from my Mother) and does benefit somewhat by daily applications of Botanical Oil or Solar Oil. The ridges are visible to the eye, but not when I touch the nail plate surface - it is still smooth.

the ridges run from the cuticle to the free edge vertically and not horizontially, then it is just a dry nail plate. If the ridges are horizontal, it is generally due to some sort of systemic disease, but will usually effect all 10 nails.

Lines and Ridges is a symptom of hypothyroidism. When someone states that something is a symptom of a disease that is all it is, it doesn't 100% proof positive mean that it is that particular disease. But....other people may read this post....people with ridges in all of thier nails....and guess what a light bulb may go on and they may go to thyroid board and realise that they have many other symptoms. But indeed, many with thyroid disorders do have ridges in nails. :wave:

Marti
12-15-2003, 04:05 PM
Lines and Ridges is a symptom of hypothyroidism. When someone states that something is a symptom of a disease that is all it is, it doesn't 100% proof positive mean that it is that particular disease. But....other people may read this post....people with ridges in all of thier nails....and guess what a light bulb may go on and they may go to thyroid board and realise that they have many other symptoms. But indeed, many with thyroid disorders do have ridges in nails. :wave:


Vertical Ridging in the fingernails 'can' be a sign of many things, but is GENERALLY a sign of nail plate dehydration from a lack of natural oils and moisture transmitting from the nail bed up through the nail plate layers. Vertical ridging CAN ALSO be a sign of aging, poor absorption of vitamins and minerals; thyroid disease; kidney failure and a host of other things.

What I am telling this person is that since it has occurred on only the hand he had broken and in a splint for so long, not only is the skin of his arm dry and possibly peeling, but his nails are also dry and may peel in layers.

So - I assume he must now go and be tested for kidney failure as well as hypothyroidism. If he tries the oil on his nails and sees an improvement, he just might save himself the money he would spend on doctor visits and tests.

By the way, I get my information on the chemistry of nails from Douglas D. Schoon. He is the president and founder of the Chemical Awareness Training Service based in Newport Beach, California. He has authored dozens of articles on nail related issues and lectured nationwide on the important topic of salon chemical safety. Doug has served as an expert witness in legal cases helping attorneys, judges, and juries to understand the chemical complexities of professional and retail beauty industry products. He is the VP of Research & Development for Creative Nail Design Systems and is also nationally known for his easy to understand information on nails. If he tells me that this type of ridging is due to dehydration, then I believe him wholeheartedly. If he were to have told me it might be due to kidney failure or thyroid disease, then that is what I would have posted.

I always research my answers before I post them, and this post was no exception. :)

girlygirly
12-15-2003, 04:42 PM
Vertical Ridging in the fingernails 'can' be a sign of many things, but is GENERALLY a sign of nail plate dehydration from a lack of natural oils and moisture transmitting from the nail bed up through the nail plate layers. Vertical ridging CAN ALSO be a sign of aging, poor absorption of vitamins and minerals; thyroid disease; kidney failure and a host of other things.

What I am telling this person is that since it has occurred on only the hand he had broken and in a splint for so long, not only is the skin of his arm dry and possibly peeling, but his nails are also dry and may peel in layers.

So - I assume he must now go and be tested for kidney failure as well as hypothyroidism. If he tries the oil on his nails and sees an improvement, he just might save himself the money he would spend on doctor visits and tests.

By the way, I get my information on the chemistry of nails from Douglas D. Schoon. He is the president and founder of the Chemical Awareness Training Service based in Newport Beach, California. He has authored dozens of articles on nail related issues and lectured nationwide on the important topic of salon chemical safety. Doug has served as an expert witness in legal cases helping attorneys, judges, and juries to understand the chemical complexities of professional and retail beauty industry products. He is the VP of Research & Development for Creative Nail Design Systems and is also nationally known for his easy to understand information on nails. If he tells me that this type of ridging is due to dehydration, then I believe him wholeheartedly. If he were to have told me it might be due to kidney failure or thyroid disease, then that is what I would have posted.

I always research my answers before I post them, and this post was no exception. :)

Thank You for your research!!!!! BTW, No one said that what you posted wouldn't work, I don't quite understand why there is a problem with my post. This board is for support, I may be able to help someone with what I posted just as maybe you have. :wave:

Marti
12-15-2003, 05:24 PM
Lines and Ridges is a symptom of hypothyroidism. When someone states that something is a symptom of a disease that is all it is, it doesn't 100% proof positive mean that it is that particular disease. But....other people may read this post....people with ridges in all of thier nails....and guess what a light bulb may go on and they may go to thyroid board and realise that they have many other symptoms. But indeed, many with thyroid disorders do have ridges in nails. :wave:

It is also a sign of Kidney Failure! What I am saying is that when it only compromises ONE HAND, or a few nails and that hand had been immobilized in a cast, then the resulting ridging is MOST LIKELY due to a dehydrated nail plate which would benefit greatly from the application of a good quality nail and cuticle oil.

The oil would benefit the ridges regardless of the cause - dehydration, aging, thyroid disease, kidney failure and all the other diseases attributed to ridges in the nail plate.

girlygirly
12-15-2003, 05:46 PM
Thank You for your research!!!!! BTW, No one said that what you posted wouldn't work, I don't quite understand why there is a problem with my post. This board is for support, I may be able to help someone with what I posted just as maybe you have. :wave:

:wave: :wave:

Marti
12-15-2003, 09:28 PM
Duplicate post - I removed it :)





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