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Spirit
01-30-2003, 01:59 AM
I am having a stress/anziety problem cause of my husband leaving. My doc tried paxil and zoloft on me and I went way hyper with this stuff-cause I found out they are antidepressants also. Does anyone know of anything natural to help me calm down my nervous system that will help colon too. Someone suggested ativan-i know this is a prescription-but really need some help Please!

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Sarah68
01-30-2003, 06:59 AM
Homeoopathic treatment could be very helpful to you and could help you to come off the conventional meds eventually. It is safe to be taken in conjunction with ordinary meds and will not interact, as they work in totally different ways.

Acupuncture is also extremely beneficial for all types of anxiety. It will help you to feel better generally and can help your stomach a great deal.

I would suggest that you go and consult an ND who practices these alternatives or you can find just acupuncturists.

Spirit
01-30-2003, 09:16 AM
We don't have those docs in my area

Farmer Sue Tickle
01-30-2003, 11:40 AM
When things are going pretty rough for me I take Valerian root, in capsule or tincture form. It's a mild Central Nervous System suppressant and will help to cut out the background 'noise', distractions and general irritations that plague you when you're under duress.

However, I don't find it to make me sleepy, rather it gives me very sound sleep and I rise refreshed. Because it helps me to cut out the 'noise', I sometimes take it at work if I want to concentrate and keep a single-tracked mind (mine is very active!)

Everyone reacts differently etc. so ...

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Sarah68
01-30-2003, 02:11 PM
Wow. You sure know a lot about herbs. Is this self taught and from your own research and experimentation?

As you probably know, I am into homeoopathy and acupuncture, but does Valerian Route give you a good nights sleep and enable you to wake feeling refreshed? If so, what dose do you take?

I am really rather uneducated about herbs, but would like to learn more.

Spirit
01-30-2003, 05:56 PM
Farmer Sue, Would this help my colon? I get pains in colon with the stress.

isolated one
01-30-2003, 10:10 PM
Valerian is by far one of the best and probably the most studied of the sedative herbs. In Germany, doctors prescribe it for insomnia and anxiety. One of the things this herb is also known for is the antispasmotic effect it has on muscles and the intestines (reduction in colon spasms). If you decide to use Valerian, I highly suggest capsule form only because the stuff has an awful smell. You should use a "standardized" extract to be sure of it's potency. Valerian is referred to as "the Valium of the 19th Century" because it was prescribed here and in Europe for anxiety related conditions before the greedy drug companies started gaining power and created their synthetic Valium. The VAL in Valium was taken (stolen) from Valerian, which is just as good if not better than Valium and with hardly any side effects. This was an early example of what is common today in that there's no real money to be made from botanicals because they can not be patented so they create these synthetic drugs which are loaded with serious side effects and are short in duration of effectiveness (if they even work at all in many people). But hey, the prescription drug mongers are lining their pockets with $$$$$ at the expense of the ignorant cousumers who allow themselves to be used in this pathetic manner. I've often attempted to warn those on the Depression board of the dangers of prescription meds but it's gone ignored. If they would rather live in denial and choose to be sheeple, oh well!

Farmer Sue Tickle
01-31-2003, 01:28 PM
Sarah, yes I know a fair bit about herbs. My wife began studying to be a herbal medic (when I wasn’t interested). We moved overseas and had to suspend her studies and I contracted a serious illness. I then became interested because they (apart from other things) helped me enormously. I continue to read as much as I can on them.

Valerian Root gives me a wonderful night’s sleep and I wake refreshed. I don’t remember the dose but wouldn’t want to suggest it anyway, as we’re all different and it should be a practitioner doing that. I follow a blood type diet and valerian is particularly effective for type O (50% of people in the US). As for anyone else, I’m not sure how they’d respond.

Even in capsule form, it reeks (shame really, because it puts a lot of people off) and I guess that’s part of the virtue, that medicine has to smell or taste horrible! Valerian and Silymarin (for liver regenration) are my favourite herbs.

Spirit, no it wouldn’t (directly) help your colon pain. You’d need to take a deep look (literally) at that problem.

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Sarah68
01-31-2003, 07:08 PM
That is great. Has your wife resumed her studies again? As you as so interested have you ever considered training yourself, or are you not that interested?

Take care

kat721
02-12-2003, 02:46 PM
The medication widely prescribed for problems and pain in the colon would be Hyoscyamine.
Most any Doctor will prescribe it because it is not considered a dangerous drug.
Hyoscyamine comes in a huge variety of strengths and brand names. It is an alkaloid of the Belladonna Plant.
In fact, there are also other alkaloids of that plant also available as medication for spasm like problems.
And a spasm would be the nature of Colon pain.
The particular medication works on the bladder and the colon and the vagus nerve. It is also prescribed for Parkinsons patients.
If the colon problems are due to technical IBS the doctor may not locate the actual cause for the problem. That seems to be the nature of IBS.
However,if the problem is due to pelvic adhesions to the outside of the Colon it would eventually depend on the nature of the adhesions as to any resolve for the problem.
Pelvic adhesions can not normally be seen on the standard imaging tests. their presence can and will cause all sorts of attending mystery problems.
Most doctors recommend a colonoscopy first to rule out
internal problems. After that a laproscope might be the next procedure if the Doctor has reason to believe that adhesions might be part of the problem.
You would need to discuss these possibilities in depth with your doctor.
Adhesions are bands of scar tissue. They can not be resolved with suppliments or medication but suppliments and medication can and often do help make the situation more tolerable.
Also, many many people with colon problems also have attending anxiety.
Goes with the intestinal territory.
Seeing a good Gastrroenterologist might be a good idea.
Kat





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