isolated one
02-10-2003, 10:42 PM
I've been reading a lot about a little known herb called Rhodiola over the past several months. Rhodiola has been popular in Asia and parts of Europe for years for reducing fatigue, stress, and depression. The herb is just starting to get attention here in the US. Until now, Rhodiola has been almost impossible to find. I've been more depressed and very low on energy over the past couple of weeks because my mother's Alzheimer's has reached the final stages and it's getting the best of me. I've been wondering if there is something even better than St. John's Wort to help get me through this. I just learned that a new and very potent Rhodiola product called "Rhodax" has just hit the market. Well, I only started taking it today and I can't BELIEVE how great my mood and energy level has been! Not only that, my thoughts are more focused and clear than they've been in a long time. I can't say enough about this herb and could go on and on. Anyway, I just had to share this fantastic discovery.
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1goodgirl
02-10-2003, 10:58 PM
I have also read about this herb and it sounds great; I just have not been able to find it so far. It apparently has been around for a long time, but not in our country....thanks for the info!
wenron
02-10-2003, 11:10 PM
Another good anti-depressant that's natural is 5-htp. I use it at times and it works well. It's a substitute of Paxil or other SSI's and doesn't have any bad side effects. I got mine through nature's way.
32skater
02-11-2003, 10:19 PM
Go in and ask Jeeves! Just put Rhodox and it will
take you to it! Think you can order it there!
take you to it! Think you can order it there!
ramah245
02-12-2003, 12:04 PM
Suggest before going too far with 5 HTP that you check on its safety. Some will be OK but using a lot of it over time can be dangerous. It has something to do with the conversion thats done in the blood before it should and not being able to cross the brain/blood barrier in that form.
farscape66
03-07-2003, 11:56 AM
Just ordered it. I hope it helps. Do you kknow how it compares to SAM-E? Similar at all?
farscape66
03-09-2003, 05:30 PM
Should get it on monday in the mail. I can't wait!!!! I need something soon!!!
rhody
03-10-2003, 01:40 AM
Herbs apparently work best in a clean wholesome body. The understanding of the interaction between herbs and diet is important.
Years ago, when I took copious amounts of herbs with for my illness, I followed a healthy natural foods diet - I avoided processed foods. Such conditions can help promote healing faster. The study of herbs is so complex and fascinating. Many herbs can mixed for better treatment.
Years ago, when I took copious amounts of herbs with for my illness, I followed a healthy natural foods diet - I avoided processed foods. Such conditions can help promote healing faster. The study of herbs is so complex and fascinating. Many herbs can mixed for better treatment.
farscape66
03-13-2003, 10:55 AM
Just received it. Took 1 yesterday evening and 1 this morning. Next one at noon. Too early to tell, but I do feel a little less stressed out. We shall see. Instructions say it takes different times to take effect depending on the person. Will give it a month and see how it goes.
farscape66
03-21-2003, 02:14 PM
After about a week it kicked in!!!! I feel much better than I have in months!!! This is great stuff!!!! I will buy more!!!!!!!
Samuelemouse
04-14-2003, 09:00 AM
Does it work any better than valerian? or chamomile?
farscape66
04-15-2003, 12:56 PM
Never tried the others you mentioned. But the Rhodax is still working great for me.
Samuelemouse
04-18-2003, 07:51 AM
Valerian, chamomile and st John's wort are the classic herbal remedies in this area I thought.
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farscape66
04-18-2003, 09:28 AM
I am on Rhodax and SAM-e and about 20 other persription drugs for diabetes, high blood pressure, haital hernia, gallstones, and stroke. But no anti-depressants as of yet. Other than the natural ones's.
tagger
04-27-2003, 01:27 AM
I would like to try some of these "alternative" medicines. Problem: I'm already on Remeron and my doc says that in order to try natural remedies I would have to go off remeron for a proscribed time before I can try anthing else. He also has a problem with dosages. Because these are "natural" remedies who can determine what dosage I should be on? Has any research been done on potentially dangerous side efects? I'm terrified that if I go off remeron I'll "crash" before I even get to try these new alternative remedies! (though I would dearly love to get off the anti depressant merry go round). Has anyone tried this while still on or weaning off of an anti depresssant? I can't afford a "crash". I have a kids and a job and a household to manage. I repeat, has anyone tried this new "miracle" remedy while still on a prescribed anti depressant or weaning off one?...Tagger
deprezzed
04-27-2003, 03:26 PM
Does homeopathy really work for depression? I have been trying it for 3 weeks. The first constitutional remedy I took did nothing, apparently was not the right one. My homeopathic doctor then put me on Argentum Nitricum 5 days ago b/c my depression was caused by extreme anxiety about the real world and performance. (I am in law school starting a job soon). The day after I took it I developed a cold. First, it manifested itself as a sore throat with occasional plugged ears. Then the next day it was not a sore throat but a stuffed nose w/o bad phlegm, by the end of that day it was a stuffy nose w/bad phlegm and a ton of sneezing. Now it is still a stuffy nose bad phlegm no sneezing and a cough. The weird thing is I have actually felt more motivated with the cold then I was without. I have realized that depression is very mind over body. I was wondering if the cold was due to the remedy working or has not relation to it. I must admit I have not gotten a cold during the 6 months that I have been depressed, which I thought was weird. Perhaps this is my immune system reacting and fighting the depression. I sure hope so, maybe it is just wishful thinking.
Sarah68 in your experience have you seen this happen to people on the right remedy? If so, I was under the impression that one only got sicker for a few days- today is my third. And that usually the sickness is just extreme fatigue or exacerbation of the depressed symptoms.
I sure like the theory of homeopathy. Conceptually it makes a lot more sense to me then the modern American form of treating depression.
Sarah68 in your experience have you seen this happen to people on the right remedy? If so, I was under the impression that one only got sicker for a few days- today is my third. And that usually the sickness is just extreme fatigue or exacerbation of the depressed symptoms.
I sure like the theory of homeopathy. Conceptually it makes a lot more sense to me then the modern American form of treating depression.
deprezzed
04-27-2003, 09:13 PM
Sarah,
Thanks so much for your informative and timely response. I do have a more questions, which I would love for you to respond to if you get a chance. I don’t mind the cold at all, in fact I kind of like it since I have been unable to develop a cold in 6 mos. I used to get a cold every year between February and March but I didn’t this year b/c I felt like my body was to pre-occupied with the depression. My history is as follows. I am 24 I have always been really energetic, happy, witty, fun and smart all my life. My mother told me I had a lot of fear when I was a little kid (the dark, first day of school each year, getting beat up in boys bathroom, taking the bus alone b/c feared getting beat up). I always was anxious before exams, which is what drove me to study so hard and do so well. I am also extremely claustrophobic. These characteristics, and many more, are what led my homeopathic doctor to believe Argentum Nitricum would work. As I had mentioned before he first tried me on another remedy to no avail.
Now that I am in my second year of law school I have become very anxious about working in the real world and whether I want to be an attorney (kind of like first day of school anxiety). I haven’t been depressed long. I was first very anxious through much of September and October 2002, which manifested itself in an inability to think clearly in class and be as bright and witty as I was used to. My memory, also, became much worse. Then in early November I think my body gave up (flight v. fight) and I started being really tired. Didn’t feel like getting out of bed in the morning and slowly but surely lost interest in everything I loved (Learning, playing sports, going out with friends, listening to music). By mid-December I was really depressed, although I have never had suicidal thoughts. I guess I am too optimistic and too much of a fighter…I don’t know…or else my symptoms haven’t gotten that dire yet. During November and December I would notice that getting drunk would usually not be as fun and then if I got really wasted I would be lots of fun, but the next morning would be so depressed and it would last for days. So I gave up drinking. I have a cool shrink who recommended I start taking 3000mg. of molecularly distilled Omega-3 fish oil b/c it can help depression. It seemed to help for a week or so, but now I realize the placebo effect is very powerful within me and my mind is much more powerful than my body. That is how my anxiety led to the depression and my present state.
After the fish oil didn’t work, I kept on it for general health tried 300mg. of lithium which didn’t do much (manic-depressives take b/w 1200 mg. and 2400 mg.) stayed on it though and started 150 mg. wellbutrin.
My family history is that my dad has been on Paxil for the last 3 years and my twin sister, who is losing her hearing and her vision (due to a degenerative disease) has been on Wellbutrin for a year.
The Wellbutrin, which I started January 15th wired me for 4 days- that got me out of bed, but then I went back down and never felt much better. I was able to get out of bed in the morning but could not think straight and slept 3 to 4 hours a night. I was a zombie. Stayed for 6 weeks on wellbutrin even though I knew it wasn’t working. All b/c the psych insisted on it. Then I started lexapro with wellbutrin. Long story short (already pretty long). I have never been on more than 150mg. of Wellbutrin SR and 5mg. of Lexapro and 300mg. of Lithium. I just weaned off the wellbutrin after 3 mos. of taking it and am on 5 mg. of Lexapro- which is half the minium daily dose. The Lexapro makes it hard to get out of bed in the morning. I am going to be done with the Lithium in 3 days and then will only be at 5mg. of Lexapro- which I have been on for 6 weeks. I would like to wean off of that asap. I think psychiatry is not enough of a science to be throwing these meds into my body. I like the holistic approach of homeopathy and am willing to wait it out. I waited 3 and a half months unsuccessfully on meds.
After all this I am wondering if you think with the little bit of meds I have been on and for such a short time and having only been depressed for 6 months, do you think the homeopathy will work once I get the right remedy? How long (I know it is hard to say) Do you think Argentum sounds right from the little you know of me? ( I should say I am an anxious kid with unfounded fears and insecurities, but to a stranger come off very confident (sort of in the Lycopodium sense) and I have an interest in all things (like a Sulphur without the absent-mindedness, clutter and mess). Also, after this cold does dissipate, do you then believe if the remedy is the right one I should slowly begin to feel more depressed with the symptoms I mostly recently felt (ex: tired, disinterested) as the first to go and then the witty, concentration and clear last to go? Further, I was under the impression that I should get very tired as my bodies immune system is shocked. Perhaps that is the cold I have developed. Lastly, have you seen depression of my sort (performance anxiety gone depressed, lack of interest in life and clear thought) been treated successfully with homeopathy?
Thanks so much for your time and I hope you made it through this and can’t wait to hear from you. You have been very helpful and inspiring. Not to mention just writing this is impart therapeutic.
deprezzed
Thanks so much for your informative and timely response. I do have a more questions, which I would love for you to respond to if you get a chance. I don’t mind the cold at all, in fact I kind of like it since I have been unable to develop a cold in 6 mos. I used to get a cold every year between February and March but I didn’t this year b/c I felt like my body was to pre-occupied with the depression. My history is as follows. I am 24 I have always been really energetic, happy, witty, fun and smart all my life. My mother told me I had a lot of fear when I was a little kid (the dark, first day of school each year, getting beat up in boys bathroom, taking the bus alone b/c feared getting beat up). I always was anxious before exams, which is what drove me to study so hard and do so well. I am also extremely claustrophobic. These characteristics, and many more, are what led my homeopathic doctor to believe Argentum Nitricum would work. As I had mentioned before he first tried me on another remedy to no avail.
Now that I am in my second year of law school I have become very anxious about working in the real world and whether I want to be an attorney (kind of like first day of school anxiety). I haven’t been depressed long. I was first very anxious through much of September and October 2002, which manifested itself in an inability to think clearly in class and be as bright and witty as I was used to. My memory, also, became much worse. Then in early November I think my body gave up (flight v. fight) and I started being really tired. Didn’t feel like getting out of bed in the morning and slowly but surely lost interest in everything I loved (Learning, playing sports, going out with friends, listening to music). By mid-December I was really depressed, although I have never had suicidal thoughts. I guess I am too optimistic and too much of a fighter…I don’t know…or else my symptoms haven’t gotten that dire yet. During November and December I would notice that getting drunk would usually not be as fun and then if I got really wasted I would be lots of fun, but the next morning would be so depressed and it would last for days. So I gave up drinking. I have a cool shrink who recommended I start taking 3000mg. of molecularly distilled Omega-3 fish oil b/c it can help depression. It seemed to help for a week or so, but now I realize the placebo effect is very powerful within me and my mind is much more powerful than my body. That is how my anxiety led to the depression and my present state.
After the fish oil didn’t work, I kept on it for general health tried 300mg. of lithium which didn’t do much (manic-depressives take b/w 1200 mg. and 2400 mg.) stayed on it though and started 150 mg. wellbutrin.
My family history is that my dad has been on Paxil for the last 3 years and my twin sister, who is losing her hearing and her vision (due to a degenerative disease) has been on Wellbutrin for a year.
The Wellbutrin, which I started January 15th wired me for 4 days- that got me out of bed, but then I went back down and never felt much better. I was able to get out of bed in the morning but could not think straight and slept 3 to 4 hours a night. I was a zombie. Stayed for 6 weeks on wellbutrin even though I knew it wasn’t working. All b/c the psych insisted on it. Then I started lexapro with wellbutrin. Long story short (already pretty long). I have never been on more than 150mg. of Wellbutrin SR and 5mg. of Lexapro and 300mg. of Lithium. I just weaned off the wellbutrin after 3 mos. of taking it and am on 5 mg. of Lexapro- which is half the minium daily dose. The Lexapro makes it hard to get out of bed in the morning. I am going to be done with the Lithium in 3 days and then will only be at 5mg. of Lexapro- which I have been on for 6 weeks. I would like to wean off of that asap. I think psychiatry is not enough of a science to be throwing these meds into my body. I like the holistic approach of homeopathy and am willing to wait it out. I waited 3 and a half months unsuccessfully on meds.
After all this I am wondering if you think with the little bit of meds I have been on and for such a short time and having only been depressed for 6 months, do you think the homeopathy will work once I get the right remedy? How long (I know it is hard to say) Do you think Argentum sounds right from the little you know of me? ( I should say I am an anxious kid with unfounded fears and insecurities, but to a stranger come off very confident (sort of in the Lycopodium sense) and I have an interest in all things (like a Sulphur without the absent-mindedness, clutter and mess). Also, after this cold does dissipate, do you then believe if the remedy is the right one I should slowly begin to feel more depressed with the symptoms I mostly recently felt (ex: tired, disinterested) as the first to go and then the witty, concentration and clear last to go? Further, I was under the impression that I should get very tired as my bodies immune system is shocked. Perhaps that is the cold I have developed. Lastly, have you seen depression of my sort (performance anxiety gone depressed, lack of interest in life and clear thought) been treated successfully with homeopathy?
Thanks so much for your time and I hope you made it through this and can’t wait to hear from you. You have been very helpful and inspiring. Not to mention just writing this is impart therapeutic.
deprezzed
Gretta03
12-04-2004, 07:33 PM
I have been taking Rhodax for three days and its done nothing.....How long does it take to kick in?
caroleye
12-26-2004, 02:33 PM
Curious how to affects "sleep"..........usually when it stimulates for fatigue & depression, the insomnia worsens.
Like to hear your experiences.
LIGHT***********carole
Like to hear your experiences.
LIGHT***********carole