Has anyone every tried supressing their herpetic sores using oxygen treatments? If anyone has, please let me know their dosages and results. I just ordered some BOL Stabalized Liquid Oxygen (in some sort of solution of course) that you take to increase the oxygen level in your blood. Apparently more oxygen makes it impossible for a virus to live. In addition, there is the DMSO which is a creme you apply directly that actually penetrates the skin level into where the virus lives, carrying oxygen to it and destroying it, preventing outbreaks. Is any of this true? I'll give it my best shot, I don't believe anything anymore; apparently some people have "inactivated" the virus.

I'll keep anyone who's interested posted though.

I tried the BOL and DMSO regimen a while back. I went 9 months without an outbreak - the longest I have ever gone. But then, I started getting outbreaks again quite frequently and the oxygen treatment didn't seem to work anymore. I don't know why - maybe the virus built up a tolerance to it. I think oxygen is definately a strong opponent of viruses but I'm not so sure anyone knows exactly how to use it effectively.

I have gone almost 2 years with no outbreak since my treatment. I used oral H2O2 and topical DMSO/H2O2 (applied to OB site and spine). At the same time I changed my diet, started supplements, meditated, and began going to the gym regularly. I am not totally convinced that I’m “cured”, but as time goes by I feel more and more like maybe I beat this thing! I’ve been through stressful times, and I totally polluted myself with chocolate and junk over the holidays…..still no OBs.

CBGB, the reason why nobody knows the most effective way to use oxygenation is because there isn’t enough research being done. Research that has been done is very positive, but the industry suppresses and discredits it because of its potential to severely decrease profits (because oxygen can’t be patented….yet!). Medical industry executives make a LOT of money……and WE are the ones paying for it. We pay our money, but worse than that, we pay by living with a horribly stigmatized disease when there is evidence that strongly suggests that we don’t have to. I’m on a mission, and I want to see the medical industry collapse under the weight of the mighty O2 molecule! LOL!

Nonexist

Thanks for your valuable information guys! Nonexist: can I ask you what your dosages were for the oral O2 and the how often you put the topical DMSO?

I haven't started yet, but my idea was 3 drops O2 orally every day, and apply the DMSO every now and then? Fill me in if you can, thanks!

Both the DMSO and the oral H2O2 were very disruptive to my busy schedule, and that’s the reason I think a lot of people fail to get the results that I did (plus the taste is awful when you get up to around 10 drops). Both are 3 times a day, and with oral H2O2 you must go 4 hours without eating or drinking for EACH dose (that’s 12 hours of fasting each day!). You can’t eat for 3 hours before and 1 hour after your dose, or else the H2O2 will just react with any food in your gut, rendering it useless and making you nauseous. The duration of the H2O2 is 6 weeks, DMSO I’m not sure but I did it for about 3 months. I had to change my life for 6 weeks, little did I know that the 6 weeks would change my life forever (in more ways than just eliminating OBs).

So, you must dilute the 35% Food Grade H2O2 in distilled water, start with 3 drops/dose and increase by 1 drop/dose each day, up to 25 drops/dose maximum. I found that 25 drops was way too much for me, your body will tell you. When you get a healing reaction, you should stay at your current dose until it passes. Remember this is all “suggested”, no real protocol exists, only a collection of results from people who have experimented. When you reach the maximum dose you’re comfortable with (15 drops for me), stay there for 2 weeks, then decrease by 1 drop/dose each day until you’re down to 5. You have to phase it out gradually.

The DMSO I applied after spraying with 3% H2O2. I covered every area where I EVER had an OB in the past, plus the area of spine those areas corresponded to (genital = base of spine, oral = top of spine). I left it on about 20 minutes each time, and then washed it off. It does irritate your skin a bit, keep a close watch at first to make sure it’s not too irritated (I have very sensitive skin).

I learned so much by going through this, it changed my whole outlook about health. I proved to myself beyond a shadow of a doubt that traditional medicine puts politics and profits before people’s health. It was one of the hardest things I ever had to do, the inconvenience and the horrible taste! But, I knew it was worth it and I’ll do it again if I ever have to. I had a word that was my mantra….relentless…..if this is to work, you have to be relentless. Modern medicine gives us this idea of simply popping pills to restore health. But, herpes is too tough for that, it has evolved to find its way into the deepest center of our consciousness, the spinal column and nervous system. You have to be prepared for a serious battle if you want to get it out of there. Keep us up to date and if you try it, I’ll try to answer any questions you have along the way.

Nonexist

Thanks for the details Nonexist! I just started treatment today, however I put the BOL directly under my tongue (3 drops). I let it sit there a few seconds, and then swallowed. Should I be diluting it? And if so, how much (distilled) water should I mix per drop?

Only 6 weeks? Unbelievable, but I'll give it my best shot!

Thanks

I'm not sure if the BOL has to be diluted. I don't think so, it should say on the bottle. BOL is different from H2O2 in that it isn't so volatile. H2O2 would never be allowed to be marketed for internal use, so some companies developed a product safe enough for internal use. There is debate that the liquid oxygen products are not as effective, but I've never tried any of it so I can't form an opinion. I do know that liquid oxygen is much more expensive, it cost me $10 for 450ml of H2O2, and I was only using about 1ml a day.

There were a few people from this board a while back who have gotten great results with stabilized lquid oxygen products, so I'm anxious to see how it works for you.

Stay positive,

Nonexist

Nonexist--
I gave the oxygen treatment a try, but I don't believe I did it properly. I did use the liquid H202 orally for a litle over 6 weeks, and I used DMSO topically during this time. However, I used DMSO alone with the assumption that it had some sort of effect. I now believe I should have been putting a dilluted form of the H202 topically first, then using the DMSO as a carrier. Nonetheless, I have an outbreak today that started 5/3. I started treatment around early february. I get about 4 or 5 coldsores a year, so it seems that it came at its normal time; I see little effect that the regimine had. I believe I will try it again, because it is said that people who have had the virus longest will have to continue treatment longer in order to "inactivate" the virus... I've had it all my life, so that's 20 years of the virus being comfortable in my lips that I'll have to battle I guess.

Any tips Nonexist??

Incidently, I'm using Acyclovir topically, and using DMSO as a carrier for it.

I had the virus for about 6 months when I started treatment, but anyone can get the same results. According to their website, “Never an Outbreak” now recommends the topical DMSO treatment alone, without spraying with H2O2 first, they say the combo is TOO potent and causes harsh healing reactions. My version of the book says to use 3% H2O2 first and to cover it with DMSO to carry it to the nerve cells. That’s what I did and it was EXTREMELY potent, judging by the healing reaction I had. I think it’s very important to cover all the OB areas and the spine. Once the nerve cells become oxygenated, the virus leaves and makes its way to the skin to cause an OB/healing reaction. If allowed to replicate, it will just become stronger because so much of it is on the skin multiplying. The virus has to run into oxygen at every possible path it can take, which is where knowledge of “dermatomes” comes in handy. The spine can be divided into 12 sections, each one contains nerve cells that supply a certain patch of skin. The virus can only travel within this “closed network”, which is why it can’t jump locations on its own. I found dermatome diagrams on the internet, and traced my OB locations back to the corresponding point on my spine and treated it in both places.

For oral herpes, it’s risky to put DMSO on your face, since it spreads throughout all the surrounding tissues. It will very easily find its way to your eyes (H2O2, DMSO and eyes don’t mix!!!). But, you can still treat the top of the spine and use something else to keep the virus from replicating when it sheds in the facial area (maybe garlic oil, H2O2 alone, rubbing alcohol is what I used). Just don’t give up, keep experimenting and you can eliminate OBs.

Anything is possible!

Nonexist

HEY is this something that you all just have to do once for 6 months and if it works ou don't have to do it again? Do you all know if there are any associated health risk with the treatments? And non-- did you ever try anything else before you found out that this worked for you? Have you had any experience with garlic oils or pills. Thanks.

Great questions, Anna. I want to add to that by asking where do you buy this stuff? Is it prescription only? Can I get it over-the-counter at the neighborhood drug store?

I would start today if I could.

AnnaBanana and MissingMyLife:
DMSO and H2O2 treatments are non-prescription-- they are experimental drugs--There are several places where you can purchase variations of the treatment online; just search for DMSO and H2O2 on the internet, and there are probably health stores and such where you can buy it-- I got it online though. I recommend reading the book "Never An Outbreak" by William Fharel for detailed information on this type of treatment.

Theoretically, "Yes" the treatment can "deactivate" the virus with one successful trial. I did it for 6 weeks, but I still got an outbreak. It is stated that those who have had the virus longer will have to use the treatment for a longer period of time, and I believe that is the case for me, having it 20 years nearly. I will give it another try soon. NonExist mentioned that he had the virus for a shorter time, and he claims that he has deactivated the virus, which gives me much confidence! Thanks for the information about the dermatome maps according to the spine NonExist! I applied DMSO just to the back of my neck during treatment, but I believe I should be more exact with it.

About the "dangers"--DMSO is not approved for human use--although many people have experimented with it for pain relief, and research seems to show that DMSO is effective in getting to the nerves and creating an oxygenated environment, deactivating the virus. DMSO penetrates the skin and goes deep all the way to the nerves--it "carries" chemicals with it. That is one possible "danger" people are worried about, for if harmful chemicals are on the skin, DMSO may carry them further to your body. My friend recently hurt his ankle, and his doctor actually gave him DMSO and a pain reliever--he would spread the pain reliever on the ankle, and put DMSO over it, to carry it to the nerve to ease the pain more effectively. This is the same concept with the Herpes virus, although NonExist claims that DMSO alone will be effective.

Thanks for your encouragement NonExist, I'll try to keep my chin up.

Thanks for answering these questions. I've been doing searches but all I find is literature about the chemicals and not vendors. I'll just keep looking.

Incase I find this stuff, what concentration of DMSO have you used?
Is H2O2 the common Hydrogen Peroxide found in pharmacies?

I would appreciate a quick response from anyone who can answer this. Thanks in advance!

Search for a product called "BOL" or "Breath of Life"--this is one brand of liquid H2O2 that is sold by vendors. It is not the same chemical make-up as hyrdrogen peroxide, however hydrogen peroxide is said to have some anti-herpetic effects.

DMSO is a topical cream that may come from 70% to 90% DMSO. This is the range of percentages where it penetrates the skin best. Just put it on the effected area, and as NonExist described, the corresponding area on your back where the spinal nerves connect to that part of your body. (ie: herpes on your mouth: apply DMSO topically to wherever you've had outbreaks on your mouth, and the back of your neck).

NonExist described a rather complete method previously in this thread. Hope this helps, continute to ask questions though.

Hey missing I AM GOING TO LOOK INTO this also. But in the meantime When I was looking in a health food store this wekend I think that I saw some DMSO. I don't really remember how much it cost or what concentration, but I will check it out on my lunch break tomorrow, and let you know what I found out. By the way missing are you still on the up and up on the UT, I'm still hangin' in there still thinking about taking that big swallow. What do you think about this and garlic theropy what are your thoughts?

Anna,

sounds like a plan. I ordered DMSO on Sunday and I'm going to pick up a bottle of H202 today.

I have a bottle of Topical H2O2 at home but I also want a bottle of the Food Grade. I can only find the 12% solution of H2O2 foodgrade ...Looks like I"ll just have to work with that.

I plan on using the topical H202 along with DMSO on my skin and take the other one orall. I am going to follow the regime Nonexist posted.

I am really excited about this. It may or may not be sucessful but I am willing to take the chance!!

Hey well you go get em-girl I have decided to try the garlic plan this is kinda fun why don't we make ourselves unnofficial official reporters...to if only each other if no one else listens...but I don't think that that will be the case there is always someone wanting to know how things are going. So I'll be your left crutch and you be my right crutch ( please) and together we'll hold each other up and keep each other informed on what works. Man this is so cool I feel like MS. Inspector Gaddget, so I will be starting my garlic drill probally tonight. When do you plan to start yours? So what do you say about the double duo...I mean what do we really have to loose????

Sounds like a plan, Anna.
We'll keep each other updated. I'm really curious on how successful this will be. I think we are the only women on this board who have/are going to try this.

How often are ur OB's? Sometimes I get lazy and don't do my UT or any other treatment. When that happens, I have OB's or OB-like symptoms(slight tingling, YIs)for 2 weeks out of the month

On another note,found the 35% Food Grade H2O2 yesterday. I have a full quart so this will last for eons. My DMSO should arrive anyday soon.
I have a problem though, I don't know what type of HSV I have and, the online documents seem to indicate that DMSO treatment is most effective on HSV-1.

I am going to start treatment regardless of the type but I would like to hear feed back. Also does anyone know if it's best to start treatment during, before or, after an OB?

I hate it when that crap happens... :rolleyes:
I have benn typing away then I push submitt and I am logged out...!!!!!!!
O.K for obvious reasons I will make thsi short

OBs are really far and few between in the genital area. The only two regions that I feel as though are problem areas are my nipps( we all know about my nipps now ) and my chin. I mean until about a month and a half ago my face has never really broken out like it did, if it did I thought it was something else (ACNE) but I really do think that it is H related.

Anyway it is true about what they say about the frequency of obs decreasing with the amount of time that you have had the virus. When I FIRST GOT IT I was in college I have been out about 2 years now. In the beginning I would have really bad ob's I was so ashamed. I had no money no car no insurance...just pain, my boyfriend thought I was exagerating. I used monastat 7 ( the equate kind) and it did help better that anything else. The reason I ended up using that, is cause when I went to the doctors initally they thought that it was a yeast infection and that is whst they gave me there and when I went back again they told me the same thing, so I just started cutting out the middle man and 1/2/ day in the clinic. I don't know if that was the right thing to do but it REALLY HELPED ME OUT.

and about your question I would think that before ob's is the best time to prevent future ob's. I f you are tring something new I would start as soon as possible so that I could be relieved as soon as possible.

What supplements are you taking if you are taking any?

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how are things going with potential lover boy???

Anna,

I tried it this morning and all have to say is yucckckckckckc. LOL. I felt the H2O2 bubbles forming in my throat and in my stomach.

I took it at 6:30 am and had to go and lie down. I stayed in bed for another hour after that. I felt kind of nauteous and I hadn't even eaten since 11:00pm the night before.

I am only taking 1 dosage today and I plan to increase to three doses per day over the period of one week.

I also got my DMSO yesterday. I copied nonexists technique. I showered, sprayed the H202 topical on the target areas, and then applies DMSO using a q-tip. I'm not sure if the Q-tip is the brightest idea but that's all I had at that point.

Oh...for your other question: I mayGarlic oil if I get an OB but I may end up applying the H2O2 + DMSO. I want to stifle that little herpes-sucker.

Cool have you given any thought to buying or reading that book Never an outbreak I am finna go search the net for it in a min. And I guess we can't communicate outside of the board cause the deleted the messages. oh do you know why they blocked you that time???

Also are you still doing the peroxide testing I am curious to know if it is pretty much persistant with every one about getting the bubbling results if the virus is present. :bouncing:

Hello,

MissingMyLife: :wave: hehehehe, yep... h202 is pretty nasty tasting stuff if I do say so myself. :) Even though I don't post as much as I used to, I'm still around and still taking the h2o2 orally. I'm up to about 24 drops 3x/day after about 2ish months. I haven't used the DMSO/h2o2 combo topically at all lately, mainly because... well, I haven't had any outbreaks. I'm still going through the healing process and do get "tingles" each time I up the dosage for a few days, but nothing major... haven't even had any little red patches lately either. I think slowly, but surely, I'm killin' this little bugger off and gettin' it outta my system.

However, I do plan to stick with the h202 for at least 6-12 months working up to 25 drops 3x/day... maybe even 4 times a day after another few months. I'm also going to start on the DMSO/h202 topical again just for extra kick. The way I use the DMSO is the cream type... I spray the h202 all around the boxershorts area and then just rub the DMSO all over the h202. Once the first batch of h202 "sinks in" I spray more on... I continue this pattern until basically all the DMSO has soaked into my skin as well. Then, I'll rinse the area with water (no soap since in theory the stuff in the soap could seep into my skin as well I suppose). It's messy, but it gets to job done. LOL

I'm curious what dosage you started out with to make you feel that way right off... I wouldn't suggest starting with anything higher than 1-2 drops of 35% h2o2 in 12-16 oz. of water or juice until your body gets used it. Also, expect to feel some dieoff symptoms such as being tired, achy, possible outbreaks (maybe even in different areas than your used to), headaches, etc... I believe it's all part of the healing process. As long as you go slow (don't increase your dosage too fast) you should be able to minimize the dieoff effects while continueing towards your goal.

Well, good luck and keep everyone posted. I'm glad to finally see a few others besides myself and nonexist thinking "outside the box" and outside from mainstream western medicine. I hope it works for you.

While it may go without saying, I think the best thing you can possibly do for yourself while using this therapy or any other is to wholeheartedly believe that it is working... truly believe and trust in the fact that your body can and will heal itself; you cannot doubt even a little. Meditate, pray, do what ya gotta do, but most importantly... just believe - mind over body.

Regards,
Chris

Hey chris did you buy the book inorder to start treatments or did you just follow non's instructions.

Yes and missing how are you doing?

Hello anna-bananna,

Actually, yes I did buy the book that's been mentioned in this thread, but the book will not give you instructions on how to dose properly using H2O2. I actually found the dosing info for free on the web. I'd love to be more specific, but it seems the moderators are crazy on these forums and will ban on a whim so I dare not post anything to "break or bend" the rules.

Nonexists rules should be fine... they seem to be the norm. I'd also suggest starting small with only 1-2 drops of 35% food grade H2O2 per 12oz.+ of water or juice (more liquid helps with the taste) 3 times per day and work up from there. Just be very careful and listen to your body! Remember, I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. :rolleyes:

Regards,
Chris

lol,

Chris you are hilarious. Sorry for the late reply. I actually started with a wayyyy too high dose and that's why I got the reaction I did. I actually threw up the second time.

Well to make a long story short, I put like 1ml of H2O2 to 3ml of distilled water. My body didn't like that at all. I learned to change my doseage immediately after that incident.

Treatment seems to be going ok but, I haven't started getting any reactions yet. No tingling or itching or anything. I mean, I'm actually prepared for war now and I can't even find one or two men on the battle field.

Hi all,

I contracted H this year and searched the web trying to find anyone who had actually tried oxygen and dmso who wasn't also working for nao. (or made up)

Where did you find medical DMSO? My research told me to becareful as it's not okayed by the FDA for general medical use in the USA. So there is no way to guarantee that the suppliers are not just repackaging industrial grade, contaminants and all, and making a profit on 'suckers'.

I'd love to believe this works, but I am not willing to believe only the manufacturer/promoter.

This is the only site I have found were there have been folks using it with success.

Can you give any suggestions on where to find the genuine article?
Thanks!!

I apparently contracted HSV2 11 years ago when I was just out of college, never went to a doctor after the first OB, but didn't experience another OB for 10 YEARS! Last year I finally had what appeared to be my first OB--up until then I didn't believe I was actually infected. I had several long term relationships in the interim and to the best of my knowledge, never infected anyone else.

But then after my what seemed to be my first real OB last year, i had a few more before it went into remission, most likely in response to the acyclovir my doctor prescribed. I stayed on daily suppression therapy for roughly 6 months, until Feb of this year. The moment i went off the daily acyclovir in March I had another OB. I've since had 6 recurrences, even with a steady intake of acyclovir. It has been a nightmare. For anyone else who has suffered through this, I feel your pain. I really do.

On the basis of reading I've done on the internet elsewhere and on this site, I'm going to try my hand at oral H2O2, and perhaps also DMSO and H2O2 solution at the base of my spine. I intend on going about this with great caution, and limiting my intake to an absolute minimum. The question I have for anyone who's tried it is this: Will such a course of treatment conflict with daily suppression therapy of acyclovir? I'm reluctant to give that up since it worked for those six months, until I voluntarily ceased taking it. If anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd be grateful for your input.

Search for a product called "BOL" or "Breath of Life"--this is one brand of liquid H2O2 that is sold by vendors.

BOL is a brand of Sodium Chlorite (NaCLO2), not Peroxide (H2O2).

this is Missing by the way.

I have never been so happy to see outbreaks in my life!! I'm FINALLY having a healing reaction. I'm experiencing big red bumps on my back. One is near the top of my spine and two or three are near the bottom, right at the tail bone. They haven't ruptured but they were tender and itchy. I'm also experiencing some abnormal itchiness in the genital region (I suspect it's a part of the reaction). I'm also experiencing a deep sensation in my lips and mouth (not very common either). Normally these things would freak me out but I'm so ready for war.

I still haven't got on a strict 3x-a-day routine but I always spray H202 and then DMSO after a shower.

How is treatment going for everyone else?

i dont get it yourspecialmiss, why are the red itchy bumps on your back a good thing? you get herpes on your back? and why is it good that you're itchy down there? i'm missing something.

I'm just relieved that my body is responding to the treatment. I've been taking this for about 3 weeks (if not longer) and I was beginning to lose hope. I thought my body was too resilient to respond. Now that I see the OB's I know that something is happening. I hate this thing so much that I'm willing to risk getting worse for the chance of getting better.

Also, I never had an OB on my back but NonExist and others (not necessarily on this board) have stated that in the initial healing reaction, one will see OB's in places where they had never been experienced before.

thats weird, it sounds as if you re-infected yourself in another spot then! I hope not. good luck, i hope it works for you.

Is there anyone else still doing this therapy? I am going to continue for about another 7 weeks.