Hey Subs, congrats once again on your 100$ recovery...I have hope..lol..well IM a year in now and although things have improved there's still some weirdness and I thought Id run one by you to get your thoughts...of course when I used to go into grocery stores and things the objects on shelves would appear to be moving around and it was very uncomfortable....well here's the thing. things arent jumping around on the shelves anymore and I feel ok just walking around, but when I am pushing a cart I get feeling really funky and dizzyish. now I dont know if possibly me lifting my arms to that level is causing something weird to happen to a nerve in my neck or something or what but that's the only thing I cant think of...Ive also noticed it at times when Id lift my arms(both) and get something out of the microwave it would feel weird too....this just boggles my mind because I cant make sense of it....esp since most people feel better grabbing on to a cart for leverage or support. So I was curious as to what you could possibly make of this because I need some kind of brainstorm to help me out..lol... as soon as I start pushing a cart I feel much more unsteady though....well subs thanks for anything you might have to say and take care will ya. Eric

Hi Eric

Yep---that is 180deg out from what most people feel---however........it is also true that:

NO TWO PEOPLE ALIKE

It must be remembered that no two people present the same set of identical
symptoms. It depends on which cells and circuits of the inner-ear system
have been damaged. One person may have more problems with learning
disabilities, another with speech, another with phobias, another with
fatigue, another with ADD, another with depression but often symptoms
overlap. It is even possible to have vestibular damage without having
motion sick problems. A person may have difficulty with eye-tracking
(reading) but be able to ride amusement park rides all day long.

So I guess your proof of the above---it sounds like you are beating it---which most do.....maybe someone else---that posts here has the same kind of thing.....let see........

:cool:

Hi fighter,

I really don't know if this is relevant or not, but, a while back on the boards there was someone called Yahoo82 - she was given a diagnosis of thoracic outlet syndrome. One of the things that pointed to this was the dramatic effect of lifting her arm high above her head. She also had a pretty painful neck. Anyway, thought it was worth mentioning - I'd start with a search - go in to advanced search, put Yahoo82 in name search and neck in word search, it will bring up a few threads, there's one with tmj in the thread title can't remember exactly, where Yahoo82 talks about her diagnosis. My guess is it's probably not this, and just another permutation of weird old lab, but who knows maybe you'll recognise your own symptoms.

best,

hbep.

Hi Fighter,

In the first few months of lab my symptoms would definitely escalate almost immediately if I held my arms straight up in the air or if I stretched my body with arms raised toward the ceiling. It also occurred if I massaged my neck just below the ears. There's no effect now in both cases. I think it's just one of those nasty things that will eventually go away. I think what's going on is that your inner ear is still sensitive to changes in blood flow/pressure. Raising the arms does something to blood pressure/flow to the head as it can make even healthy people feel temporarily light-headed. I wouldn't worry about it.

I still have this problem where if I hold my head still and shift my eyes to the far right or left for a few seconds, symptoms increase (heart rate starts rising etc). Does that happen to you? Also, if I eat a really sweet or salty food on an empty stomach, I get a big stirring up as well.

I'm almost there I think. This week is the best I've felt so far. Just nervous I'll get smashed again just when I get my hopes up.

Take Care.....Scott