:bouncing: just lettin everyone know that although ive been super bizzy with my cafe im still on 60mg of methadone daily,been feeling fairly good......havent saw nor heard from sparkster/sandman/philster/hope for today and all the rest of you guys whom i share a mutual opiate disease with...hope everyones doing fine,enjoying the better things in life.....ect,ect....just wondering also how the old bupenorphine is doing for those who have chose to take it,and super proud of those who have ceased usin narcotics.......its a tough one thats 4 sure....ive got bike week this week...about 500,000 bikers converge on daytona beach so im sure ill be busy...take care everyone,god bless............chef

Hey!!! It's so good to hear from you. We've been missin' ya around here! I saw a post from Phil about a week ago and he's still doing really well... 14 months clean. But I haven't heard from Spark... Lisaahubb is on like her third or fourth week clean.. and doing well. Anyway, you know I'm a PRO suboxone girl and I'm still doing wonderfully on it. HOWEVER.... when I miss a dosage and sometimes when I don't, I start to feel like I'm going into MILD wds. It's weird... It's normally in the afternoon/early evening and doesn't last long. I'm taking tons though. I went up from 8 per day to 16 and now I'm cutting back to at least 12 because the 16 was making me too tired. As I'm sure you know, there really isn't much difference between 16, 12, or 8 so I might as well go back down to 12. The doc prescribed 16 though. I have no idea why I went up --- maybe hoping to get a little something out of it but of course... NOTHING. I just went through that for about a week or so. I'm still doing really well. Why is it that I just don't feel like an addict anymore. I feel like if I stopped taking it tomorrow (except for the horendous withdrawlas) that I would be fine. However, I do know that's just the Sub, tricking my brain since it's latched on to my receptors HARD. Anyway, seriously, it's still been my life saver and I'm so happy that I've found it. Are you still going to the meetings and everything? I heard once that if you are on maintenance drugs, that you could NOT get your chips or anything... That's kind of tough, don't you think? It's GREAT to hear from you and I hope you make thousands this week will all of the business!!! And of course your wonderful cooking doesn't hurt things either. :-)

I'm fairly new here chef but glad to hear anyone doing good.I'm battleing a Vicodin addiction and I've been doing great so far.You'll see me wandering the boards and I hope and pray for the best for you.

Stay Strong,
Ken

Good to hear you are doing well- noticed your "absence." Figured you were busy, but I am worried about Spark. Usually when I ask him to post me with a quick "I am okay..." he does and I haven't heard from him in several weeks. Maybe you could try getting ahold of him???

Good luck with your big weekend- rake in that dough! :)

My family and I are leaving for Steamboat, CO Friday morning about 5:00am, so I will be away for a few days. Still on a low dose of the sub, but am planning on a slow taper in a month or so. We'll see how it goes!

Thanks for checking in with us. Take care and God bless,
michelle

Chef,
So glad your here!
The Sub is going great, for the cravings at least, it doesn't control my pain. I am up most nights with it and haven't slept thru the night in I can't tell ya. My counsler told me there was nothing I could do for it other than a meth clinic. He told me I could'nt take any narcotics with the Sub cuz it woulnt work, is that right?
I asked him what would happen if I was in a major car crash and he said thats the chances you take.

Anyways glad to see you back!
Samilam

Hey Chef........ahhhhhhhhhh, Bike Week in Daytona, sounds like heaven to me!!!! I am hanging in there...starting day 19 w/ NO OPIATES....i have my good days and my bad days....This has been one of the hardest things i have ever put myself thru in my life!!!! Feeling better every day now....sleep is still a issue, but it is a small price to pay.
Enjoy all the bikes and people and MONEY!!!!!
Have a good one, Chef.
luv,
LISA

sam.....the bupe isnt the greatest for pain control..thats why i went back to methadone from a 15 year absence...if you were to take more than 16mg its a defeated issue...bupe has what they call a ceiling effect....and its true...youd be bummin big time if you needed major league pain mgmt. cause the bupe does settle in on those receptors or if you are on opiates and take bupe,the bupe will knock off the opiates and put you into major w/d's..it happened to me....it s#$&%@*d.

john....wouldnt know how to get in touch with spark outside of here..i built homes for a year back in 1998 in vail,breckenridge,silverthorne,dillion,a ll up in there in colorado...beautiful country...doin some skiing eh?...have a good one and dont forget your med...at 11,000 ft it wouldnt be fun in w/d's....

dysken...i used to eat 40 - 50 lortab 10's a day....vikes is what most of us start out on..if you havent had your disease for many years you should be able to defeat it...but it will take strong will and determination.....

banker...any a/a or n/a should aknowledge the fact your on the road to recovery however you are technically still taking narcotics....im on 60mg of methadone and i go every week to a a/a mtg...i beleive im am not totally sober so i have not stood up to get a chip...i think we all beleive a little different and thats what makes the world go round,but you and i know we are in recovery and that counts big time.....take care of yourself and ill write back about what my doc says about 16mg of bupe,he is in recovery,5 years sober...........................chef,got ta go cook breakfast for hungry leather clad bikers..

lisa...good job...19 days you should be extremely proud of....sleep will come, but please try not to relapse..you have alot invested here and when that sleep does come youll see what you missed by getting hooked up in this crap....good job and be strong........chef

Hi chef-
whats cookin???Good to hear from you-You sound good..
Yup!Still on the sub-doing 4 mgs..haven't used for months-this was a good choice.I just couldn't seem to stop on my own so this has really helped to stop..the insanity..lol..
Im 44-it was starting to get pretty bad-ive had so many deaths recently around our x-circle of friends..were all just too old to keep up that lifestyle.
Its so sad-cos they didn't make it out..and i always remember..im only one bad descision away..so no cockiness here.
The 4 mgs..works fine-my body adjusted-took a month or so..but its fine.
Im not planning to stop the treatment anytime soon-cos its helping me stay away-and the depression issues are getting better.
Bike week should be fun..my friends out there are into the bike thang..they go to sturgis,etc..the real deal..they moved out there to escape the drug scene here-and are doing well.Bought a house/got the bikes..chillin'
Im glad to hear you doing well-its always good to hear from you..
Oh yeah..tingling in the hands..did you get that on the bupe/
Hope the kids are doing well!
Heather

:bouncing: just lettin everyone know that although ive been super bizzy with my cafe im still on 60mg of methadone daily,been feeling fairly good......havent saw nor heard from sparkster/sandman/philster/hope for today and all the rest of you guys whom i share a mutual opiate disease with...hope everyones doing fine,enjoying the better things in life.....ect,ect....just wondering also how the old bupenorphine is doing for those who have chose to take it,and super proud of those who have ceased usin narcotics.......its a tough one thats 4 sure....ive got bike week this week...about 500,000 bikers converge on daytona beach so im sure ill be busy...take care everyone,god bless............chef

Hi chef,
have read so much about you, what a trooper you are!

My daughter and her bf , after some probs are doing well on on 16 mg of sub, and they have a wonderful doc. It is costing1000.00 a month for counseling, our insurance covers the sub, 16.00 a mont, our one brake.

The have no wd, are working and functioning pretty well.

The problem we had with my daughter has been resolved, i am not allowed by moderater to discuss this issue here. It was incredibly hard for her but she is dealing.
take care

so glad that the chef is in! And that he feels good enough to write!

I'm still on my 4-6 a day 7.5 hydros...but it's so far down from the old days!

So--you built homes in the Vail, Breckinridge, etc, area?? Not only have I skied all those areas (Vail many times)--but my Denver friend bought a small house to rent a few years ago. She had to give it up due to work commitments--but I wonder if it was one of yours??!! Last few years the altitude has really been a problem for me. (Especially Arapaho and Keystone.) How did you manage it??

Have fun with all your bikers! When you said bike week--I immediately thought of those kinda bikes that most of us ride! And I remember my London to Brighton bike ride for charity...where I was one of the last to make it...and way too tired to eat at ANYONE'S restaurant!!! :-)

Good to hear from you and that you are well.

hey chef!
glad to hear from you! lifes ok here in sc. hubby still on meth at 65 mgs, getting ready to come down. i have put together 5 months, working on 6 of no drinking. normal life crap is going on (appliances breaking, bills due, etc), naturally i act like an idiot, but haven't used. hope you aren't getting washed out down there! torentially raining here.

its rained for the last two days and the ground isnt absorbing it...hope the bikers get sunshine for the wekend and next week....i gave up drinking since june which was an amazing feet considering i drank at least two tall boys daily...wouldnt my ex wife be proud of me now...too late,too much/whatever that sayning is....i know what its like to have stuff breaking down...we just spent three grand for a new ice machine at our cafe......

twin....i hated altitude sickness especially when we were doing hard physical labor...we did the foundations and poured concrete......isnt i-70 from denver neat with all those gold mines and big horn sheep on the side of the road...i loved the mountains but couldnt afford to live up there...it really is gods country.....gotta run.............chef

Hey chef have'nt talked to you in a while i have been doing ok just trying to keep the demons away along with the pain . Its good to see you are doing well

sandman....hows your life been goin there lately bro?.....you still takin them hydro"s...if i remeber correctly you had weaned off of them slowly...then you had some health problems and havent heard from ya since............chef

Chef my friend I'm still in the background lurking around. Glad to hear you're still well and working your arse off lol I'm still doing very well. Next month begins month 15 drug free, what a nice run it has been, so many good times ahead

be good

phil

Hey, Chef, I used to be in the restaurant biz summers and breaks between college semesters, and I remember when the international boat show came into town it was just crazy. I'm glad to hear you're doing well.

You too, Phil. Thanks for your help you have given me. I had to add some days into my taper, but am still making it downwards. All I k now is I don't have to chew 5 in the morning to keep from getting sick. If I haven't woken up during the night, I can take 2 and feel fine. I am going to start back with the timer, though. I am going to meetings, though, best thing I've gotten from this board. I have alot, alot, alot of incentive to taper rather than be hospitalized. Did you ever slip, or were you strict by your regimen from start to finish? I plan on being done by 3/21, but my headache issues made me slip up, and might ask hubby if it's okay to add a couple more days in. I am now seeking alternative therapies for my pain issues.

Just realized I totally busted in on your thread, chef, and don't even know if phil will catch this, but just trying to catch up quickly-my girls want out of here! talk to you soon

rosie

phil...i respect ya buddy and you give excellent info to these folks....i dont see too many other folks around here that are on the same plane as you...keep on givin that good advice and someday i might make it to 15mths. too............

rosietee...dont worry about poppin in on the thread...seems youve takin some good advice from philster on the taper method...its for strong willed folks...keep it up...

Hi ,

I'm sure you don't remember me, i don't even know what name i use to post under ,but i was a member the early part of last year, i started a topic methadone vs recovery or sometrhing to that affect, anyways i just wanted to tell you and all of the old timers hello as well as the knew ppl.

i too am on methadone 110 mg. aday , i also am taking split doses 80/30, i do have take homes thank god, so i don't have to visit the clinic on a daily bases, in which that would drive me crazy, hell i don't like going once a week.

well, just wanted to say hi and hang in there.


billiejean2003 :)

Chef I have never posted with you but I love your no nonsense approach and humor. Philster I am so glad that you posted!!! You are loved and you are a hero to alot of posters!! :cool: You have said in the past that what you add to this board sometimes needs a break from you - well I say Fooey to that!! You are needed - your insights are incredible and hope you can get involved again with your sage advice!!! Chef good look with spring break - sounds like you are going to be busy busy busy ;)
Everyone take care and enjoy your Saturday evening!!!