ken1967
03-18-2004, 03:16 AM
i just turned 37 and am starting to notice my hair is thinning alot lately, it doesnt run in my family so i was a bit surprised, i know that stress, or poor eating habits etc are supposed reasons for this to happen besides it just being in my genes, i have had some medical illnesses in the past diverticulits(colon resection surgeries 9/03 and 12/03, also have lost 70 pounds since last may due to the diverticulits, also sleep apnea, my question is, besides all these "cures" you see on tv can anyone tell me are there certain foods or vitamins etc that can help me, i am eating healtheir now,more fiber, vitamins,fruits,veggies,coQ10, i dont wanna be 1 of those men who have these awful comb overs with 3 strands of hair,lol i will shave my head if it comes to that, any suggestions would be great
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injured betty
03-18-2004, 03:20 AM
i just turned 37 and am starting to notice my hair is thinning alot lately, it doesnt run in my family so i was a bit surprised, i know that stress, or poor eating habits etc are supposed reasons for this to happen besides it just being in my genes, i have had some medical illnesses in the past diverticulits(colon resection surgeries 9/03 and 12/03, also have lost 70 pounds since last may due to the diverticulits, also sleep apnea, my question is, besides all these "cures" you see on tv can anyone tell me are there certain foods or vitamins etc that can help me, i am eating healtheir now,more fiber, vitamins,fruits,veggies,coQ10, i dont wanna be 1 of those men who have these awful comb overs with 3 strands of hair,lol i will shave my head if it comes to that, any suggestions would be great
I am picturing Donald Trump :)
All kidding aside, is your mother's father bald? thinning?
Could just be your diet.
I am picturing Donald Trump :)
All kidding aside, is your mother's father bald? thinning?
Could just be your diet.
ken1967
03-18-2004, 03:30 AM
if i had donald trumps money,girlfriend, i wouldnt care about 3 strands of hair,lol grandparents both passed away and also my mom , my grandfather was 60 when i was born and from what i remember he had a full head of hair until maybe he was in his mid 70s, and yes im sure my diet has something to do about it, what i want to find out is, are certain food cause you to loose your hair and what are they and also do certain foods help strenthen your hair??
injured betty
03-18-2004, 11:53 AM
I guess that you and I think differently :)
For me it is not about money. It is all about heart. My husband has a full head of hair, not a lot of money but even if he were bald (which I find to be sexy) and had no money I would still find him attractive :)
If it is genetic it would be your mom's dad. Since that doesn't seem to be the case, then it may be your diet.
As for food that causes hair loss or gain:
avoid excessive intake of vitamin A
hormone replacement may increase hair loss
steroid muscle building supplements may increase hair loss
avoid smoking
avoid excessive alcohol consumption
spicy foods may cause increased hair loss albeit temporary
avoid highly oxidative foods
stress leads to hair loss *avoid stress*
A wholesome diet, rich in silica, calcium and iron, will help reduce or prevent hair loss. Green, leafy vegetables, especially sea vegetables, are good mineral sources. Raw oats provide silica. Dried fruits and cherry juice are rich sources of iron.
Taking two acidophilus tablets after or between meals (four to six tablets per day) for two months will help.
organ meat, whole grain cereals, dark green leafy vegetables, eggs, dates, and raisins.
soy milk is a good source of soy protein. You can also buy soy shake mix.
Other good sources of protein are: low-fat cheese, eggs, fish, beans, brewer's yeast and yogurt
Vitamin C improves the absorption of iron. Include a good serving of fruits and vegetables in your diet.
Vitamin E is important for healthy hair growth. Eat avocados, nuts, seeds, and olive oil on a regular basis.
Excessive intake of Vitamin A can cause hair loss.
Eat vegetables such as carrots or spinach in unrefined, cold-pressed seed oils such as flax, walnut or pumpkin seed and sea salt. Take turnips, cabbage, mustard, soy beans, peanuts, pine nuts and millet if there is a deficiency of iodine.
Supplements:
Saw Palmetto, Biotin, Pantothenic acid
He Shou Wu, Shen Min essential amino acids, copper peptide
Zinc,selenium,copper, magnesium, manganese, Vitamin A,Vitamin C, Vitamin E, vitamin B-1,B-2,B-6,B-12,K1,Calcium, biotin, Linolic Acid, Alpha Linolic acid,Sulphur, horsetail, Phosphorus, Iron, Iodine,Panthothenic, Silicea, Calc Flor, Ferr Phos, Niacin,Folic Acid.
Falling of Hair, Gray Hair, Alopecia, Baldness,
Dandruff, Seborheic, Dermatitis of scalp, Tinea
capitis, versicolor, calvities, retarted growth,
thining Hair.
use these herbal ingredients.
Gingeli Oil, Granules, Lecithin, Alikanet, Alerian,Lichen, Fenugreek, seeds of Alopara flower, C.Pertenious, Almond, emblic mytoblan, Acacia concinna,Indian valerian, Henna, Eclipta Erects, Oak Galls,four seeds, Long zedory, white sandal, red sandal,brown sandal,
Organic silica added to shampoo
Silica is found in the outer coverings of potatoes, green and red peppers and cucumbers. Bean sprouts are also high in silica. Eat whole foods including sprouts
and there are many more :)
The one that appealed to me was saw palmetto and burdock that is used in an oil on the head. You could go to a health food store or Natureopath and have a tincture made up for you along with instructions :)
avoid:
Cold foods and drinks
Sugary foods and drinks
Fatty foods
Animal protein
Excessive raw foods
Fruit, especially citrus
Tomatoes
Tofu (I personally don't understand why you can eat soy but not Tofu, which is soy) I drink Soy Milk.
millet
Salt
Dairy products
eat:
Brown rice
Oats
Sweet rice and mochi (pounded sweet rice)
Root vegetables, such as carrots, rutabagas, parsnips, ginger, turnips, and onions
Winter squash
Black beans
Pumpkin
Black pepper
Brown rice syrup
This is a lot of information to digest. It all sounds pretty healthy to me. We eat this way at our house on a fairly regular basis. Both my husband and I have waist length hair which we both ready to cut off. Tired of vacuuming it up.
I, myself, eat a lot of raw foods but don't have hair loss problems, I have scalp problems so pay attention to what I eat. I use a lot of different shampoos and essential oils.
For me it is not about money. It is all about heart. My husband has a full head of hair, not a lot of money but even if he were bald (which I find to be sexy) and had no money I would still find him attractive :)
If it is genetic it would be your mom's dad. Since that doesn't seem to be the case, then it may be your diet.
As for food that causes hair loss or gain:
avoid excessive intake of vitamin A
hormone replacement may increase hair loss
steroid muscle building supplements may increase hair loss
avoid smoking
avoid excessive alcohol consumption
spicy foods may cause increased hair loss albeit temporary
avoid highly oxidative foods
stress leads to hair loss *avoid stress*
A wholesome diet, rich in silica, calcium and iron, will help reduce or prevent hair loss. Green, leafy vegetables, especially sea vegetables, are good mineral sources. Raw oats provide silica. Dried fruits and cherry juice are rich sources of iron.
Taking two acidophilus tablets after or between meals (four to six tablets per day) for two months will help.
organ meat, whole grain cereals, dark green leafy vegetables, eggs, dates, and raisins.
soy milk is a good source of soy protein. You can also buy soy shake mix.
Other good sources of protein are: low-fat cheese, eggs, fish, beans, brewer's yeast and yogurt
Vitamin C improves the absorption of iron. Include a good serving of fruits and vegetables in your diet.
Vitamin E is important for healthy hair growth. Eat avocados, nuts, seeds, and olive oil on a regular basis.
Excessive intake of Vitamin A can cause hair loss.
Eat vegetables such as carrots or spinach in unrefined, cold-pressed seed oils such as flax, walnut or pumpkin seed and sea salt. Take turnips, cabbage, mustard, soy beans, peanuts, pine nuts and millet if there is a deficiency of iodine.
Supplements:
Saw Palmetto, Biotin, Pantothenic acid
He Shou Wu, Shen Min essential amino acids, copper peptide
Zinc,selenium,copper, magnesium, manganese, Vitamin A,Vitamin C, Vitamin E, vitamin B-1,B-2,B-6,B-12,K1,Calcium, biotin, Linolic Acid, Alpha Linolic acid,Sulphur, horsetail, Phosphorus, Iron, Iodine,Panthothenic, Silicea, Calc Flor, Ferr Phos, Niacin,Folic Acid.
Falling of Hair, Gray Hair, Alopecia, Baldness,
Dandruff, Seborheic, Dermatitis of scalp, Tinea
capitis, versicolor, calvities, retarted growth,
thining Hair.
use these herbal ingredients.
Gingeli Oil, Granules, Lecithin, Alikanet, Alerian,Lichen, Fenugreek, seeds of Alopara flower, C.Pertenious, Almond, emblic mytoblan, Acacia concinna,Indian valerian, Henna, Eclipta Erects, Oak Galls,four seeds, Long zedory, white sandal, red sandal,brown sandal,
Organic silica added to shampoo
Silica is found in the outer coverings of potatoes, green and red peppers and cucumbers. Bean sprouts are also high in silica. Eat whole foods including sprouts
and there are many more :)
The one that appealed to me was saw palmetto and burdock that is used in an oil on the head. You could go to a health food store or Natureopath and have a tincture made up for you along with instructions :)
avoid:
Cold foods and drinks
Sugary foods and drinks
Fatty foods
Animal protein
Excessive raw foods
Fruit, especially citrus
Tomatoes
Tofu (I personally don't understand why you can eat soy but not Tofu, which is soy) I drink Soy Milk.
millet
Salt
Dairy products
eat:
Brown rice
Oats
Sweet rice and mochi (pounded sweet rice)
Root vegetables, such as carrots, rutabagas, parsnips, ginger, turnips, and onions
Winter squash
Black beans
Pumpkin
Black pepper
Brown rice syrup
This is a lot of information to digest. It all sounds pretty healthy to me. We eat this way at our house on a fairly regular basis. Both my husband and I have waist length hair which we both ready to cut off. Tired of vacuuming it up.
I, myself, eat a lot of raw foods but don't have hair loss problems, I have scalp problems so pay attention to what I eat. I use a lot of different shampoos and essential oils.
devastated
03-18-2004, 02:20 PM
If you hair thins, DONT do the comb-over. Just shave it. It looks sooo much better! My boyfriend is only 22 (I'm 29), and he started having me shave his head about 6 months ago because his balding had gotten so bad. It doesn't run in his family, but his hair started thinning at about 20 years old. It doesn't bother me at all, I think his head is sexy, but I definately wouldn't like it if he tried to do that comb-over thing. One good thing about it is that with his advanced balding, he looks much older, so people don't really notice our age difference. ;)
ken1967
03-18-2004, 03:06 PM
well thanks for all the advice and suggestions, and about the money thing and donald trump, i was only kidding, but being 37 and single again after a long term relationship ended a few years ago, youd be surprised how many women out there want a guy who is built to perfection, not all women but alot, im sure you will say men are that way too but im just saying about my expiriences, anyways i will shave it bald b4 ever looking like i have an old mop on my head
nightangel00
03-18-2004, 07:02 PM
well thats a bit true about women liking men built to perfection. But here are some of us who have learn that what we care is that the man knows how to treat a woman well. My bf his hair is thining, he responds very well to the medicated drugs so before panicking you also go visit your doctor and give them a try. If the balding gets too bad just shave it, I agree that it looks good. For me what I find unattractive is being fat. I would take a bald over a fatty anytime.
redeem
03-18-2004, 07:09 PM
well thats a bit true about women liking men built to perfection. But here are some of us who have learn that what we care is that the man knows how to treat a woman well. My bf his hair is thining, he responds very well to the medicated drugs so before panicking you also go visit your doctor and give them a try. If the balding gets too bad just shave it, I agree that it looks good. For me what I find unattractive is being fat. I would take a bald over a fatty anytime.
dude, im 25. i lost most of my hair at 20. count your blessings. girls usually dont give me the time of day. granted, this is usually b/c lack of confidence, but lets face it, its hard to have confidence when your identity has changed for the worse.
dude, im 25. i lost most of my hair at 20. count your blessings. girls usually dont give me the time of day. granted, this is usually b/c lack of confidence, but lets face it, its hard to have confidence when your identity has changed for the worse.
ken1967
03-19-2004, 03:35 AM
well im very confident in myself, im just trying to live a healthier lifestyle now, learned from eating poorly and partying too much when i was younger and it caught up to me, :wave: and if i can improve my self im all for it and im doing it for myself and if a woman wants a perfect guy shes not living in reality,i will say that being 37 now i have learned that health and happiness is far more important than anything else, :wave:
injured betty
03-19-2004, 02:15 PM
well im very confident in myself, im just trying to live a healthier lifestyle now, learned from eating poorly and partying too much when i was younger and it caught up to me, :wave: and if i can improve my self im all for it and im doing it for myself and if a woman wants a perfect guy shes not living in reality,i will say that being 37 now i have learned that health and happiness is far more important than anything else, :wave:
What a great reply!!!!!!!
There is no such thing as a perfect guy, don't you agree? Looks like you have pretty good handle on reality :)
What is perfect for one person is not for another. If it were, we would all be clones, oh yeah, we are working on that, aren't we? Anyway, it would be so boring if everyone looked like the image that they (the media) wants us to believe is sexy or normal or perfect.
Back in HS I dated the cool guys. I married the HS jock. He turned out to be a jerk. Sure, he looked good, but inside he was not. He is the father of my children so I still see him. He now has Hep C so is not healty looking but still good looking. He had the whole package, physically.
Later I dated hippies. What a difference. Very kind.
I married a guy who looks like a nerd but with long hair. Glasses, belly, short, not the perfect package, physically speaking, but nevertheless, the real meal deal for me. Looking back I think that I had to get through the jocks to appreciate the nerds.
I did date a guy who had hair issues. He made up for it by body building. What a joke. He had a comb over and would never go swimming with me. He finally got hair plugs. What ever floats your boat :)
I have a friend whose husband took the plunge and shaved his head, very sexy, seriously. He went a tad further and had it tatooed, which he could because of his job, but it really is sexy.
Both of my daughters have had shaved heads. They attracted a lot of men.
Hair does not the person make.
If you are not attracking women due to hair issues then those are shallow women with issues of their own.
What a great reply!!!!!!!
There is no such thing as a perfect guy, don't you agree? Looks like you have pretty good handle on reality :)
What is perfect for one person is not for another. If it were, we would all be clones, oh yeah, we are working on that, aren't we? Anyway, it would be so boring if everyone looked like the image that they (the media) wants us to believe is sexy or normal or perfect.
Back in HS I dated the cool guys. I married the HS jock. He turned out to be a jerk. Sure, he looked good, but inside he was not. He is the father of my children so I still see him. He now has Hep C so is not healty looking but still good looking. He had the whole package, physically.
Later I dated hippies. What a difference. Very kind.
I married a guy who looks like a nerd but with long hair. Glasses, belly, short, not the perfect package, physically speaking, but nevertheless, the real meal deal for me. Looking back I think that I had to get through the jocks to appreciate the nerds.
I did date a guy who had hair issues. He made up for it by body building. What a joke. He had a comb over and would never go swimming with me. He finally got hair plugs. What ever floats your boat :)
I have a friend whose husband took the plunge and shaved his head, very sexy, seriously. He went a tad further and had it tatooed, which he could because of his job, but it really is sexy.
Both of my daughters have had shaved heads. They attracted a lot of men.
Hair does not the person make.
If you are not attracking women due to hair issues then those are shallow women with issues of their own.
txcs714
03-23-2004, 09:42 AM
Two points about your hairloss:
1) Please know that evidence of the genetics behind hair loss is not limited to your mother's father. That is an old myth that for some reason continues to live on.
2) The thinning you have experienced, if not simply male pattern baldness coming on from genetics, may be a direct result of your weight loss and your diverticulitis. Like people that have gastric bypass surgery, those with signficant digestive type conditions, can loose hair as a result of a deminished ability to absorb the required nutrients from the food they eat. One thing that reportedly helps is taking Biotin. It's cheap and can be found at most drugstores.
Good luck.
1) Please know that evidence of the genetics behind hair loss is not limited to your mother's father. That is an old myth that for some reason continues to live on.
2) The thinning you have experienced, if not simply male pattern baldness coming on from genetics, may be a direct result of your weight loss and your diverticulitis. Like people that have gastric bypass surgery, those with signficant digestive type conditions, can loose hair as a result of a deminished ability to absorb the required nutrients from the food they eat. One thing that reportedly helps is taking Biotin. It's cheap and can be found at most drugstores.
Good luck.
awkward
03-23-2004, 02:27 PM
I have good news and bad:
There are two different types of hair loss - male pattern and female pattern. (Those are just terms - both sexes can experience either type.) Male-pattern baldness occurs when the hairline recedes or the patch on the back of the head starts thinning. Female-pattern baldness is a significant amount of hair-loss from all over the head or from small, random patches.
What's the difference? Male pattern baldness is a hormonal/genetic thing. On the other hand female-pattern baldness is usually the result of poor nutrition, iillness, or stress.
My story: My problem started when I donated blood about 3 years ago. The circumstances are complecated, but suffice it to say that I should not have been donating my blood. Anyway, I lost a great deal of hair in the following week. :dizzy: A year ago I became ill and could not eat much for a few months. I dropped 25 lbs, and I also lost a significant of hair during this time. Also, I had a slight problem with anorexia in high school that caused hair loss.
All three of my experiances are examples of female-pattern baldness.
My cousin, who works at GNC, recommended Biotin to me. I read up on it and started taking it. It worked like a charm. I take it daily now and rarely loose hair. Its was only about $7 for a bottle of 120 tablets (600mg - twice the USDA recommended daily allotment).
The point: Biotin does not work for male-pattern baldness :( because that condition is not an issue of nutirician, but it works nicely for female-pattern baldness that is caused by a deficit of the vitimin :) .
There are two different types of hair loss - male pattern and female pattern. (Those are just terms - both sexes can experience either type.) Male-pattern baldness occurs when the hairline recedes or the patch on the back of the head starts thinning. Female-pattern baldness is a significant amount of hair-loss from all over the head or from small, random patches.
What's the difference? Male pattern baldness is a hormonal/genetic thing. On the other hand female-pattern baldness is usually the result of poor nutrition, iillness, or stress.
My story: My problem started when I donated blood about 3 years ago. The circumstances are complecated, but suffice it to say that I should not have been donating my blood. Anyway, I lost a great deal of hair in the following week. :dizzy: A year ago I became ill and could not eat much for a few months. I dropped 25 lbs, and I also lost a significant of hair during this time. Also, I had a slight problem with anorexia in high school that caused hair loss.
All three of my experiances are examples of female-pattern baldness.
My cousin, who works at GNC, recommended Biotin to me. I read up on it and started taking it. It worked like a charm. I take it daily now and rarely loose hair. Its was only about $7 for a bottle of 120 tablets (600mg - twice the USDA recommended daily allotment).
The point: Biotin does not work for male-pattern baldness :( because that condition is not an issue of nutirician, but it works nicely for female-pattern baldness that is caused by a deficit of the vitimin :) .
ken1967
03-23-2004, 03:37 PM
well thanks for the info on the biotin, i also do take 1 a day mens health multivitamins, so i have a few stupid questions to ask,why do so many vitimins and supplements tell you to take more than the usda daily amount, to me if we were to take twice as much as the recommeneded dosage, then wouldnt that be the recommended dosage? and the other question is, you say due to have been having diverticulitis, which is now gone from having the resection surgery , i cant digest some of the nutients as well,so wouldnt i now have the same problem digesting the nutrients from the biotin? just seems logic? anyways thanks for the insight
awkward
03-23-2004, 06:38 PM
You might check to see if 300mg of biotin is in your daily multivitamin. It has not been recommended by the USDA for very long and many multivitamins do not have it.
I'm no expert, but I think taking 200% of the daily allotment is good if you have had a long-term deficiancy of a vitamin. (I'd be more careful with minerals, especially iron. It's much easier to get too much of a mineral.) Also, the USDA bases its recommendation on the average person. If you have a deficiancy of a vitamin or mineral, the problem could be that your body simply needs more of that vitamin than most people need. If you take in too much of a vitamin you can get sick. However, you usually have to take in pretty insane amounts, like 10,000 mgs, for that to be a problem.
So in most cases, I think the drug packaging folks use the logic that some people may need more of a vitamin and if they buy the product with 100% of the daily allotment for average people, but the product does not fix the problem, they will not purchase the product again.
Also, I don't know much about diverticulitis, but do you mean that it is painful to digest nutrients or that your body does not absorb them well? If the second is the case, I would think that Biotin would absorb as well as any other vitamin.
I'm no expert, but I think taking 200% of the daily allotment is good if you have had a long-term deficiancy of a vitamin. (I'd be more careful with minerals, especially iron. It's much easier to get too much of a mineral.) Also, the USDA bases its recommendation on the average person. If you have a deficiancy of a vitamin or mineral, the problem could be that your body simply needs more of that vitamin than most people need. If you take in too much of a vitamin you can get sick. However, you usually have to take in pretty insane amounts, like 10,000 mgs, for that to be a problem.
So in most cases, I think the drug packaging folks use the logic that some people may need more of a vitamin and if they buy the product with 100% of the daily allotment for average people, but the product does not fix the problem, they will not purchase the product again.
Also, I don't know much about diverticulitis, but do you mean that it is painful to digest nutrients or that your body does not absorb them well? If the second is the case, I would think that Biotin would absorb as well as any other vitamin.
ken1967
03-24-2004, 02:20 AM
well my multivitimin has only 30 mcg in each tablet and says its only 10 percent of the daily allowence so i guess its time for a trip to the healthfood store,and as far as the diverticulitis, i dont have it anymore since i had that bad section of my colon/intestines removed in 9/03 and had it reconnected in 12/03, what i meant by not digesting it well was im wondering since my intesines/colon is shorter now im wondering if my body will be able to digest it and absorb it without any problems?
devastated
03-26-2004, 02:31 PM
dude, im 25. i lost most of my hair at 20. count your blessings. girls usually dont give me the time of day. granted, this is usually b/c lack of confidence, but lets face it, its hard to have confidence when your identity has changed for the worse.
Well, on a little bit more hopeful of a note, I will say that in the year before my boyfriend and I got together, even though his hair was thinning considerably, he had absolutely NO problem with the ladies. He managed to bed about 10 girls in that small amount of time.....so trust me, there are many women who don't mind baldies! :)
Well, on a little bit more hopeful of a note, I will say that in the year before my boyfriend and I got together, even though his hair was thinning considerably, he had absolutely NO problem with the ladies. He managed to bed about 10 girls in that small amount of time.....so trust me, there are many women who don't mind baldies! :)
injured betty
03-27-2004, 11:19 PM
Two points about your hairloss:
1) Please know that evidence of the genetics behind hair loss is not limited to your mother's father. That is an old myth that for some reason continues to live on.
.
Good luck.
I agree, it is not limited to the mother's father, but that is who we get our genes from and according to the doc, is not a myth. :)
1) Please know that evidence of the genetics behind hair loss is not limited to your mother's father. That is an old myth that for some reason continues to live on.
.
Good luck.
I agree, it is not limited to the mother's father, but that is who we get our genes from and according to the doc, is not a myth. :)
txcs714
03-30-2004, 12:39 PM
Sorry, but that is wrong. Overall genetics factor into the equation. Mother's father is only one piece of those genetics.
That is a very old wives tale that still manages to live on.
Don't believe me... do a bit of research.
That is a very old wives tale that still manages to live on.
Don't believe me... do a bit of research.
injured betty
03-30-2004, 02:28 PM
Sorry, but that is wrong. Overall genetics factor into the equation. Mother's father is only one piece of those genetics.
That is a very old wives tale that still manages to live on.
Don't believe me... do a bit of research.
Ya know, I did do some research on this one and I don't understand your post:
On one hand you admit that the mother's father has a part in the genetics that contribute to baldness, and on the other you call it a myth. As I am not bald, and both my mother and father are not bald, and my grandmother, who is 99 is not even thinning (either are my parents who are in their late seventies) and my brother, who is 54 is not thinning, I had not given this much thought until now. My mother's father died at an early age of Luekemia so having his information is out, but no one on either side of my family tree has ever been bald or thinning as far back as family pics go.
I have looked at my husband's mother's father and he had a full head of hair, just like my husband, so the theory holds in our family.
I am going to search the net on this, but my doc says that it is not a myth. I had a chance to pick up a book at a flea market on genetics this weekend, I should have paid the $2 and bought it :)
That is a very old wives tale that still manages to live on.
Don't believe me... do a bit of research.
Ya know, I did do some research on this one and I don't understand your post:
On one hand you admit that the mother's father has a part in the genetics that contribute to baldness, and on the other you call it a myth. As I am not bald, and both my mother and father are not bald, and my grandmother, who is 99 is not even thinning (either are my parents who are in their late seventies) and my brother, who is 54 is not thinning, I had not given this much thought until now. My mother's father died at an early age of Luekemia so having his information is out, but no one on either side of my family tree has ever been bald or thinning as far back as family pics go.
I have looked at my husband's mother's father and he had a full head of hair, just like my husband, so the theory holds in our family.
I am going to search the net on this, but my doc says that it is not a myth. I had a chance to pick up a book at a flea market on genetics this weekend, I should have paid the $2 and bought it :)
txcs714
03-31-2004, 10:02 AM
What I said was that one's mother's fathers is only a PIECE of those genetics - it is not ALL as the old wives tale says.
One's genetic make-up comes from all ancestors - and that includes the genetics behind male patterned baldness. What your post suggested (as the old wives tale goes) is that one's likelihood of male pattern baldness comes only from a man's maternal grandfather - and that is simply not true.
Believe me... I'm thinning and do not like it. I've therefore done a lot of reseach on hair loss remedies (including transplant surgery). Repeatedly, I have run across FAQs that raise the old myth that says look at your maternal grandfather to see how your hair will be, and without exception, the answer is the same - it's MYTH.
If it were true, then the 10 men (including myself) in my family who share the same maternal grandfather would have a full head of hair until death (after all, my mom's father had a very thick, full head of hair when he died at almost 70).
Unfortunately, that is not the case. Eight of us have some degree of thinning. Two were nearly bald in their 20's and the rest have had gradual thinning over the years. My brother is one of the fortunate ones. I don't think he's lost even one hair!
One's genetic make-up comes from all ancestors - and that includes the genetics behind male patterned baldness. What your post suggested (as the old wives tale goes) is that one's likelihood of male pattern baldness comes only from a man's maternal grandfather - and that is simply not true.
Believe me... I'm thinning and do not like it. I've therefore done a lot of reseach on hair loss remedies (including transplant surgery). Repeatedly, I have run across FAQs that raise the old myth that says look at your maternal grandfather to see how your hair will be, and without exception, the answer is the same - it's MYTH.
If it were true, then the 10 men (including myself) in my family who share the same maternal grandfather would have a full head of hair until death (after all, my mom's father had a very thick, full head of hair when he died at almost 70).
Unfortunately, that is not the case. Eight of us have some degree of thinning. Two were nearly bald in their 20's and the rest have had gradual thinning over the years. My brother is one of the fortunate ones. I don't think he's lost even one hair!
Kam131
08-23-2004, 11:36 PM
I have good news and bad:
There are two different types of hair loss - male pattern and female pattern. (Those are just terms - both sexes can experience either type.) Male-pattern baldness occurs when the hairline recedes or the patch on the back of the head starts thinning. Female-pattern baldness is a significant amount of hair-loss from all over the head or from small, random patches.
What's the difference? Male pattern baldness is a hormonal/genetic thing. On the other hand female-pattern baldness is usually the result of poor nutrition, iillness, or stress.
My story: My problem started when I donated blood about 3 years ago. The circumstances are complecated, but suffice it to say that I should not have been donating my blood. Anyway, I lost a great deal of hair in the following week. :dizzy: A year ago I became ill and could not eat much for a few months. I dropped 25 lbs, and I also lost a significant of hair during this time. Also, I had a slight problem with anorexia in high school that caused hair loss.
All three of my experiances are examples of female-pattern baldness.
My cousin, who works at GNC, recommended Biotin to me. I read up on it and started taking it. It worked like a charm. I take it daily now and rarely loose hair. Its was only about $7 for a bottle of 120 tablets (600mg - twice the USDA recommended daily allotment).
The point: Biotin does not work for male-pattern baldness :( because that condition is not an issue of nutirician, but it works nicely for female-pattern baldness that is caused by a deficit of the vitimin :) .
I know this is kinda late, as far as a reply goes... but I was doing a search and came across your reply/post...
My hair is falling out as well. I'm 21/f and am just getting over being anorexic/bulemic, and addicted to caffeine and diet coke... I quit all of it at once and my body went through an enormous amount of stress during detox, for about a month. Now that I feel backto normal now, my scalp's become very very flakey and on top of it, my hair is falling out in patches... no doubt due to poor nutrition and stress.
So I started taking biotin silica and flaxseed oil for about three weeks now... still too soon to tell. I'm going to start taking prenatals...
But when you say "it works wonders", does that mean your hair's grown back where it fell out?
Any adivice would be much appreciated! Thanx :wave:
There are two different types of hair loss - male pattern and female pattern. (Those are just terms - both sexes can experience either type.) Male-pattern baldness occurs when the hairline recedes or the patch on the back of the head starts thinning. Female-pattern baldness is a significant amount of hair-loss from all over the head or from small, random patches.
What's the difference? Male pattern baldness is a hormonal/genetic thing. On the other hand female-pattern baldness is usually the result of poor nutrition, iillness, or stress.
My story: My problem started when I donated blood about 3 years ago. The circumstances are complecated, but suffice it to say that I should not have been donating my blood. Anyway, I lost a great deal of hair in the following week. :dizzy: A year ago I became ill and could not eat much for a few months. I dropped 25 lbs, and I also lost a significant of hair during this time. Also, I had a slight problem with anorexia in high school that caused hair loss.
All three of my experiances are examples of female-pattern baldness.
My cousin, who works at GNC, recommended Biotin to me. I read up on it and started taking it. It worked like a charm. I take it daily now and rarely loose hair. Its was only about $7 for a bottle of 120 tablets (600mg - twice the USDA recommended daily allotment).
The point: Biotin does not work for male-pattern baldness :( because that condition is not an issue of nutirician, but it works nicely for female-pattern baldness that is caused by a deficit of the vitimin :) .
I know this is kinda late, as far as a reply goes... but I was doing a search and came across your reply/post...
My hair is falling out as well. I'm 21/f and am just getting over being anorexic/bulemic, and addicted to caffeine and diet coke... I quit all of it at once and my body went through an enormous amount of stress during detox, for about a month. Now that I feel backto normal now, my scalp's become very very flakey and on top of it, my hair is falling out in patches... no doubt due to poor nutrition and stress.
So I started taking biotin silica and flaxseed oil for about three weeks now... still too soon to tell. I'm going to start taking prenatals...
But when you say "it works wonders", does that mean your hair's grown back where it fell out?
Any adivice would be much appreciated! Thanx :wave:
Calmcookie
02-03-2005, 05:23 PM
Hello, I work as a Clinical Nurse Specialist and there are new and effective treatments for hair loss. One (that few people yet believe in) was positively featured Nov 04 on Dateline NBC and involves the use of low level laser light. It does work. Dietary factors also make a difference ... focus on moderate amounts of good fats (olive oil, avocados, nuts) and adequate, easily absorbed protiens. Learn to keep insulin levels low and alkalize your system. ;) Good luck, Corinne
fukaimori11
04-20-2005, 12:36 AM
about a healthy diet... i was wondering if it would be considered not good to be eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches everyday just about...i know it sounds stupid, but i just wanna make sure that i'm not doing something i shouldnt be doing cause my hair is getting thin. and pb&j isn't exactly the healthiest food...but i can't imagine that being a problem...
also, can someone tell me some foods with protein, cause i wanna at least try and start eating healthier to see if my diet is the problem, but i don't wanna have to go out of my way to find healthier foods. like stuff that most people have in their kitchen...
also, can someone tell me some foods with protein, cause i wanna at least try and start eating healthier to see if my diet is the problem, but i don't wanna have to go out of my way to find healthier foods. like stuff that most people have in their kitchen...