Stewbedo
04-07-2004, 10:36 PM
I have managed to bring down my liver counts SGOP from 254 to 51. Also
SGPT form 89 to 29 Taking d-Lenolate herb and Milk Thystle. Here is what I an confused about, my viral load is 17,069 is that bad enough to go on Interferon Help me please. Thank you Stewbedo.
I have managed to bring down my liver counts SGOP from 254 to 51. Also
SGPT form 89 to 29 Taking d-Lenolate herb and Milk Thystle. Here is what I an confused about, my viral load is 17,069 is that bad enough to go on Interferon Help me please. Thank you Stewbedo.
congratulations on your excellent results. Viral load is never a reason to decide on interferon treatment. Unlike HIV, viral load is not as clearly related to health risk (there is a correlation, but it is weaker than common sense suggests it should be. ) Treatment decisions are usually made according to biopsy results--which actually record the condition of the liver--or for reasons having nothing to do with lab numbers and tests at all. For example, some people choose to treat just because they feel uncomforable having an invader in their body. Not a "scientific" reason, but valid for people who feel it strongly.
Anyway, your viral load is low. Whether or not you treat, you should know that in hep c counts in the millions are quite common (mine is above four or five million and has been for years).
So, your numbers are all pretty low. Congratulations again.
sean
Stewbedo
04-08-2004, 07:56 PM
Thanks for the input on the viral load. I must say that D-Lonolate is a very very good herbal remedy, I've also heard that D-Lenolate will cure Hepitias. I Know that sounds hard to believe. Look at me Sgpt 254 in 6 weeks 51 result Sgot89 in 6 weeks 29. That in Itself is hard to believe.. What do you think about that. Stewbedo
Thanks for the input on the viral load. I must say that D-Lonolate is a very very good herbal remedy, I've also heard that D-Lenolate will cure Hepitias. I Know that sounds hard to believe. Look at me Sgpt 254 in 6 weeks 51 result Sgot89 in 6 weeks 29. That in Itself is hard to believe.. What do you think about that. Stewbedo
I think a few things about that: first, its fine news, lower liver enzyme test numbers can be a sign of reduced inflammation, and less cell damage in the liver. But, on the other hand, maybe not--some people's disease progresses all the way to cirrhosis without especially high numbers.
So, I applaud your results--they may mean your liver is improving or at least has slowed any deterioration-- but think they do not mean you are hep-free.
Third, I think lenolate is a brand name for a compound containing oleuropein, one of the main polyphenol antioxidants in olive oil, and lab tests show this chemical is indeed an effective antioxidant. This is almost certainly of some value in hep cases, as is true for similar antioxidants such as vitamin E, zinc, selenium, and silymarin.
But, finally, I think any relief these give--and I take the antioxidant alternative medicines I just listed--is of help to the liver (and heart and health generally, we hope), but they do NOT kill viruses. They just don't. And in fact, it is hard to imagine, from knowing how antioxidants work, any direct effect on viral life cycle.
Maybe by offering some general immunological relief, these and similar herbal remedies provide a "push" for the body's immune response, and in infrequent cases some people's natural immunities do seem to finally overcome the viral invasion without outside medicine. But this "spontaneous recovery" in my readings seems to apply mostly, maybe exclusively, in the first months after infection. So, I would not bank on it, no. Not at all.
I've been taking the alternative remedies that are most clearly related to liver health--silymarin and vitamin E for two obvious examples--for years now. I am reasonable healthy, but sorry to say, so are my viruses. My one case does not make a scientific survey, but I think it is only too typical.
I'll keep taking these herbals, but I don't expect the virus to go away without further measures.
Sorry, wish it were different.
sean