We do a minute per year and it's nose in the corner. We tried turning off the tv and making them sit down but it didn't work at all. We have tried a few things but the only thing that works is to take the fun completely out of it for us. Because we have 4 kids and they have tried to play in time out before, we are kind of strict about it. But there is no denying it works for us. So for the 4 year old, it's 4 minutes with nose to the corner, 3 year old 3 minutes and so on and so forth. I also only use the oven timer. That way there is no forgetting on my part and no asking on theirs. They are also not allowed to talk in time out as it is a time to think about how they are going to do things differently when they get out. Good luck and I HTH