jordin_07
05-17-2004, 09:03 PM
I was on the low carb diet for a while and then i changed to low calorie but the thing is i dunno what to do because when im on the low carb everything seems to have alot of calories and on the low calorie everything seems to have high amounts of carbs! Does it still matter how many carbs i am eating if im on the low calorie?...... and vis versa. What should i do???Another thing is when i diet i tend to take things to the extreme like i exercise TOO much or i dont eat enough dieting is so confusing to me but i only have 15 more lbs to go.What should i do? thanks :)
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NoelAlexander
05-18-2004, 11:06 PM
Well i havent posted here in awhile but iv been doing Atkins for a month and iv lost 32 pounds and iv been cheating alot but that doesnt make it right when i cheat it took me 2 weeks to lose all the pounds i gained but now im back on track forget low calories that takes to long and is even harder than low carb just go low carb drop like 200 on meats and pack your lunch and cook your breakfest and maybe go out or make a steak for dinner thats what iv been doing iv got atkins beard that only has 3 carbs per slice so i make a sandwitch for lunch that holds me until my steak or whatever i have for dinner.
silnil
05-19-2004, 01:17 AM
not a single diet plan is going to work for every individual. Take the differences between me and NoelAlexander for example. s/he says go low carb...yet I myself am completely against low carbing, unless it is a last ditch effort.
It depends on what you read and what you believe is the right way to lose weight. Low-carbing does give you results quicker, yet I shudder thinking about low-carbing...I don't find it healthy, and I find the diet sickening for myself. Yet NoelAlexander has had positive experience with low-carbing, s/he has found a diet that works for him/er...yet it definitely doesn't work for me =)
What has worked for me and something I can live forever on, doesn't leave me sick or tired, and I find healthy is this:
Find a low range of calories, don't go under 1200 and don't exceed something around 1500 cals. (depends on activity level, your age, gender, etc.)...on weekends, you can up your caloric intake by 200-500 cal (depending again on the above factors)...this just shakes your body up, and makes things less stressful as weekends for me are days that i don't do well with =)
always eat breakfast, and try to eat something every 3 hrs...this means having 5-6 mini meals a day
Foodwise: cut out all junkfoods and fastfoods, as many processed foods as you can, fatty foods (go non, low fat as possible)...eat instead fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats
liquidwise: cut out all caloric drinks, and decrease caffeine intake...drink a ton of H20
exercisewise: do at least 20 min of cardios 3-6 times a week, weight train 3 times a week...always let your body have a day of rest between weight training, and always give your body a day worth of complete rest a week
I have found this the best and easiest way to diet and live...i have all the energy i need, i never feel sick and my body feels healthy...I lose weight easily this way, though it is probably much slower compared to low-carbing...however, I have lost about 15 lbs (went from 158 lbs.-160 lbs to 143-145 lbs.) in a month and a half with this plan, so i know that it works at least for me =)
ta ta
It depends on what you read and what you believe is the right way to lose weight. Low-carbing does give you results quicker, yet I shudder thinking about low-carbing...I don't find it healthy, and I find the diet sickening for myself. Yet NoelAlexander has had positive experience with low-carbing, s/he has found a diet that works for him/er...yet it definitely doesn't work for me =)
What has worked for me and something I can live forever on, doesn't leave me sick or tired, and I find healthy is this:
Find a low range of calories, don't go under 1200 and don't exceed something around 1500 cals. (depends on activity level, your age, gender, etc.)...on weekends, you can up your caloric intake by 200-500 cal (depending again on the above factors)...this just shakes your body up, and makes things less stressful as weekends for me are days that i don't do well with =)
always eat breakfast, and try to eat something every 3 hrs...this means having 5-6 mini meals a day
Foodwise: cut out all junkfoods and fastfoods, as many processed foods as you can, fatty foods (go non, low fat as possible)...eat instead fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats
liquidwise: cut out all caloric drinks, and decrease caffeine intake...drink a ton of H20
exercisewise: do at least 20 min of cardios 3-6 times a week, weight train 3 times a week...always let your body have a day of rest between weight training, and always give your body a day worth of complete rest a week
I have found this the best and easiest way to diet and live...i have all the energy i need, i never feel sick and my body feels healthy...I lose weight easily this way, though it is probably much slower compared to low-carbing...however, I have lost about 15 lbs (went from 158 lbs.-160 lbs to 143-145 lbs.) in a month and a half with this plan, so i know that it works at least for me =)
ta ta
Jess75
05-19-2004, 10:42 AM
i know exactly how you feel. the low carb/high calorie and fat diet is quite confusing. my opinion is, if you feel okay doing the low carb diet and have enough energy then do it to lose that last 15lbs. however, i do not feel it is a necessary diet for life long weight control. but, for a short period of time, sure. now, your question is about how to eat the low calorie high carb food with the low carb foods. of course you need carbs, especially if you workout. what kind of foods are you talking about, like what low cal foods do you mean. when you low carb, choose fruit and veggies as your carbs and maybe one serving of wheat bread a day, if you work out alot, maybe a little more. i'm pretty sure when you low carb it, you have to do one or the other. i was on the low carb slim fast diet and i was EXTREMELY tired all the time. although, i workout an hour a day. what diet are you on? atkins? my advice would be, if you feel okay, continue the diet for that last 15 lbs. it is a good way to lose weight, but not stay on for life.
suzyshop1
06-15-2004, 04:28 AM
There are quite a few ppl who are on atkins for life,me being one of them.Lowfat and counting calories dont work for some ppl.Low carbing does.Ive been on both and i plan to stay on atkins for life.It all depends on what works for you.
tempting704
06-18-2004, 08:01 PM
I prefer low carbing to each is own! I have tried both low calorie and low carb however I still try to keep both at a minamal NO real fatty starches like fries, potatoes and alot of sweets and things like that. And definetley no sodas and drinks that a full of sugars and high in both carbs and calories .So I just eat sensible like tuna chicken and turkey meat and bacon and turkey burgers that are less in fat than beef and pork and low carb drinks mostly WATER cant go wrong with that and when I have a sweet tooth I eat things like the low carb ice cream while being careful not to indulge in them! so any way good luck to all!!!!!!
suzyshop1
06-18-2004, 08:33 PM
Tempting704 i eat basically the same way you do.Good luck to us.Take care.
justfortoday
06-18-2004, 09:57 PM
Im on the low calorie diet and its working for me. I've tried atkins and found it too restricting for me and it felt very unhealthy to me to be eating all of that protein.
suzyshop1
06-18-2004, 10:15 PM
Yeah but i tried lowfat and it didnt work for me and it doesnt for alot of ppl,thats why some switch to low carb diets.I find that on a low carb plan i can still stay on it and eat alot of things i like .Just a matter of substituting some high carb stuff for low carb stuff.As for some ppl thinking that alot of protein is bad for you ,look at weight lifters they eats lots of protein for muscle mass.Most of them are alot healthier then we are.I for one dont want any diet plan to tell me i can only eat so many calories and i have to stop regardless of wether im still hungry or not.Why i also like low carbing ,im what you might call a compulsive eater.When i was on a lowfat low calorie diet my head was in the fridge all the time.Low carbing affords me more control because im in a state of ketosis.Which seems to supress my apetite pretty much to the point where ive losr 25 pds so far.I can stay on a low carb plan alot easier than any other eating plan.Bottom line it works for me.As for the ppl who say it is too restrictive,i find low fat diets tedious and slow to lose.There are too many new low carbs products in the marketplace now for me to get bored.Take care.
Rixtar
06-19-2004, 10:57 AM
Jordin
You don't mention anything about your weight loss goals, height and present weight, so I will tailor my suggesstions accordingly
If you seriously overweight (my standard is more than 35 pounds from where you want to be) then either low carb or low calorie will work is adhered to. The key is which one you can follow better. I am a volume eater and thereofore always find that I can stay on a low calorie program much better than a low carb.
Previous posts to this thread have put forth great advice. But, only you can address the issue by sticking to a program.
In my past experience I have dieted and cheated and dieted and cheated to the point where I weighed over 400 pounds.
When ever you choose to make a permanent change in your weight know that the method will not be nearly as important as the intent to change. A half-hearted attempt will bring poor results if any at all. What's more, permanent change means committment to removing all emotion attachement to food and see it only as what it truly is that being fuel for your body.
You don't mention anything about your weight loss goals, height and present weight, so I will tailor my suggesstions accordingly
If you seriously overweight (my standard is more than 35 pounds from where you want to be) then either low carb or low calorie will work is adhered to. The key is which one you can follow better. I am a volume eater and thereofore always find that I can stay on a low calorie program much better than a low carb.
Previous posts to this thread have put forth great advice. But, only you can address the issue by sticking to a program.
In my past experience I have dieted and cheated and dieted and cheated to the point where I weighed over 400 pounds.
When ever you choose to make a permanent change in your weight know that the method will not be nearly as important as the intent to change. A half-hearted attempt will bring poor results if any at all. What's more, permanent change means committment to removing all emotion attachement to food and see it only as what it truly is that being fuel for your body.
joquiero
06-20-2004, 11:29 AM
I know MANY people who've lost a lot of weight on the Atkins diet - and if you can refrain from eating carbs then go for it. Though I can do it for a while, I always falter. So, now I focus on not what I CAN'T eat, but what I CAN eat. If you focus on putting veggies and lean protein on your plate with miminal (if any) carbs, and eating smaller portions and not eating late at night and working out at LEAST 4 times a week you should be fine.
For example, if I;m craving pasta with my veggies, I take a potato peeler and peel thin strips of asparagus, carrot and grren and yellow squash and steam it in a little water. In another pan I saute some cherry tomatoes and garlic for a few minutes and add the strained veggies and add a little fresh basil and salt and pepper.
For some reason, the shape of the veggies (like linguine) satifies my craving for a pasta-like food.
Also, the problem I have with low fat is that it cuts out stuff like avocado which is really good for you. And remember, you'll feel MUCH fuller on foods with a little fat for much longer than foods with no fat but more carbs.
For example, if I;m craving pasta with my veggies, I take a potato peeler and peel thin strips of asparagus, carrot and grren and yellow squash and steam it in a little water. In another pan I saute some cherry tomatoes and garlic for a few minutes and add the strained veggies and add a little fresh basil and salt and pepper.
For some reason, the shape of the veggies (like linguine) satifies my craving for a pasta-like food.
Also, the problem I have with low fat is that it cuts out stuff like avocado which is really good for you. And remember, you'll feel MUCH fuller on foods with a little fat for much longer than foods with no fat but more carbs.

