Well they closed my other thread "going in for circumsion...got some questions" so here is the new one (on topic)

i will post all of my results sometime in early july(when its done)

if anyone wants to share results please do so...

Well they closed my other thread "going in for circumsion...got some questions" so here is the new one (on topic)

i will post all of my results sometime in early july(when its done)

if anyone wants to share results please do so...
Why are you doing this again? I could never imagine chopping off my foreskin I mean it's your choice but you will probally loose a lot of feeling down there, and sometimes it doesn't have feeling at all I hear. I would think carefully before doing this, but what is your reasoning for getting a circumsision?

i dont know, but i can guees by his username...

i dont know, but i can guees by his username...
Circumcision does not get rid of ppp, atleast I dont think it does. If it does cure it they will probally just come back sooner or later.

dont most men have ppp? it is average... right.. that its not a disease and its common.. or am i wrong?

No, I would not say that most men have PPP. I don't think it is common, but it is certainly not rare.

Yes, you are correct that it is not a transmissible disease so if a lover has it, you won't catch it.

He wants to believe that a circumcision is going to fix his pearly penile papules, and everything which is wrong with his life, and wants some applause to go with it...before and after. Everybody told him in the other thread that circumcision doesn't fix ppp, and that you can get the ppp burned off without the circumcision, if you really want to, but this guy is dead set.
All I can say is good luck.

whoa whoa.....i do understand the fact circumsion will not cure ppp, i do understand this isnt gonna fix my life, i do understand this whole procedure stinks but something i wanna go through with,i do understand there is a lot of people counting on me and wanna hear what i have to say about it when its all over in which is why i created this topic...

so please do not continue to say i think this will cure my ppp or how i think its gonna change my life because i understand everything thats going on.....

OK. What are the positive reasons why you are having a circumcision, then? What is it going to make better for you?
Nobody is counting on you. So what if you told a bunch of people on the net that you would report to them. It's your body, not theirs. You have no obligation, except in your mind.
Why are you so fixated on this? Do you ever even question why you want it done? There may be an actual reason under there somewhere, but, my friend, you are running so quickly from yourself, that you are never going to find it, unless you try and take a good look. If it is something you can't explain, or haven't thought through...you just want it, just perhaps it is a compulsion. In that case, you doubly need to find out why, because the compulsion isn't going away when the foreskin does.
And that is a miserable feeling.
So, what is going on with this? Talk with us...get us to understand.

why exactly do u want to have a circumsision so late when u are already in ur teens?
is it just to "fit in"?

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I think it's just to "fit in." I hope you looked at pictures of penises right after circ removal surgery. It made me twitch. Ouch. So yeah, it's a waste of money and it's painful.!!!!!!

I'm an 18 year old American guy who was born in Europe when my dad was working there. Due to the relative infrequency of infant circumcisions being performed in Europe, my mom and dad decided to leave me uncircumcised at birth. I got circumcised here in the states about a year ago. When I was talking with my urologist about the whole post operative discomfort issue (I was curious about it, so I asked), he said something to the effect that, "Well, you won't want to go out right after the operation and put a jockstrap on and run a marathon, but just wear loose, baggy pants for a couple of weeks and you'll be fine. He was right. For a couple of weeks after the operation all I wanted to wear were loose, baggy cotton pants and boxers and sweats. He gave me some painkillers for the discomfort, though I didn't even need them after a couple of days. Right after the operation my penis was swollen, however, the swelling went down so that after about two weeks you couldn't even tell I'd had the operation done.



You're going to spend so long recovering from the painful surgery that you won't be able to have sex for months, I'd imagine.

You'd imagine wrong. First of all, my surgery was as close to totally painless as anything I've ever experienced. I mean I've had beestings that were worse than what I experienced from my circumcision. I had my circumcision done in a hospital operating room under general anesthetic, so the only discomfort (not pain, mind you, but discomfort) was feeling the i.v. line when it was inserted into my arm. I experienced absolutely no other discomfort or pain whatsoever, and I mean none, as in zero. The thing about not being able to have sex for months is a myth. My urologist told me that I'd be able to have sex two weeks after the circumcision, and he was right. My girlfriend was able to masturbate me to ejaculation before the two week period of time was up too, though we didn't try to have oral or vaginal sex during that time period.



What if you DO get it done and somebody sees the freaky-looking scar and says, "JK! I have to go vacuum my cat..." If you care what people think that would mess with you too, I'd assume....

Obviously, if a girl ever says anything negative to you about your circumcision scar, then she's so shallow and stupid that you should just pull your pants up and say, "Hey, your cat is waiting for you and let me help you find the vacuum cleaner on the way out too, babe, okay?" Or more candidly, "You know, babe, I've been thinking about the whole integrity of the human gene pool, and after some deep reflection I've decided I don't want to degrade it by having sex with you. Adios." Then pull up your pants and leave.

:rolleyes:

that is what anybody with self respect, circumcised or uncircumcised, should do, if anyone says a negative remark about their penis.

im doing this cause I dont like the way it looks. i got really dark foreskin...i got alot of foreskin(i think more then average) and i want to get the ppp lasered off without having them comeing back(oboiusly a better chance they wont if circumcised) so i dont really need any more reasons i dont know why its so difficult to understand.


BooCoo......how did ur circumcision scar come out anyway? is it like the pics on the net (kinda like a big lump)?

BooCoo......how did ur circumcision scar come out anyway? is it like the pics on the net (kinda like a big lump)?


I'm not sure I know how to answer this. My urologist gave me what I guess is considered a somewhat "loose" circumcision, if I understand the terminology correctly, so the scar is like a quarter of an inch or so below the head of my penis, i.e., a quarter of an inch from the head towards my pubic hair. I didn't know there was any difference in terms of circumcision scars before I went in for the operation, and don't really care about that anyway, so it never came up between my urologist and me as a topic of discussion. I try to spend as little time as possible comparing my circumcision scar to that of other guys, I guess, but maybe that's just me. It works great, the sex is way better, I don't have to deal with the buildup of smegma on my penis anymore and girls reactions to it and I like it a lot better.

I don't know what you're referring to when you say "kinda like a big lump" really. But no, there is no lumpy skin where my urologist made the incisions, if that answers your question. The scarline is smooth there, where the incisions were made. If you're in the southern California area and want the name of my urologist (he practices in Santa Monica), I'd recommend him without any hesitation at all.

All the best.

The skin on a man's penis is darker than the rest of him. That's a fact of life, for all of us. What other part would you have removed, because it's too dark, or a bit long?
It's so hard for me to understand, because whatever you want to call it, it is an amputation. It is not normal for a person to want a piece of them to go away, especially when there is no physical problem with it.

Mmmkay well YOUR surgrey was totally painless, it doesn't mean everyone else's is. And I personally wouldn't think twice about a scar, trust me I think girls that would rather vacuum their cat than give a guy head with a scar are so ridiculous. I would love my man for who he is, and no matter what the penis looks like as long as it doesn't have an elbow or something :p

But yeah, i'm not saying it's going to hurt regardless, I'm just saying that if you've seen the pictures I've seen (unfortunately I don't have a URL for ya) I wouldn't be having sex 2 weks after the surgery! I would wait a while. Then again, I would never have gotten cut in the first place...

Anyway, sorry I got you on a rampage man, I'm just offering both sides. Not trying to be one-sided; just letting the dude know what's out there.

:cool:

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:) Good on ya mate Im a clean "cut" guy as well. Never had any problems. I was done shortly after birth, so any pain is loooong forgotten. I like the look, so does the wife. I must have a scar, but can't see it. Everything functions great, for me and my wife. Seems to be alot of pressure not to be cut, but look at the boards--alot of complaint from the "intact" guys! Im glad it feels right for you. :)

p.s. I don't know about missing sensation I seem to "feel" just fine

well the doc is gonna look at my foreskin july 6th then were gonna actually set a date for the operation...ill update soon

well everyone here is the scoop..

the operation will take place july 22nd

they will be putting me to sleep through a shot in the arm


everyone wish me luck and ill update as soon as its done and let everyone know how it went

You told him that you wanted to be circumcised because the skin on your penis was darker, you wanted the PPP to never come back, and your foreskin is a bit long, and he said OK, no problem. What does that tell you about him, as a person, and as a man of medicine? I'm asking a logic question here, nothing more.

well everyone here is the scoop..

the operation will take place july 22nd

they will be putting me to sleep through a shot in the arm


everyone wish me luck and ill update as soon as its done and let everyone know how it went
Please do. The extended suspense is killing us.

well tommy this guy has been doing circs for a long time.....he was doing them in the navy years ago he prolly is just really experianced and has heard it all before.

wiill...is the suspense really killing u or are u joking as in no one cares(but i do know people care and are waiting for what i have to say)
im just confused thats all

Well, I just wanna say that if you've done your research, and this is what you really want, then I hope it works out well for you. Good luck.

Thank You.

ihateppp, I think you know that what I was saying was that your doctor is violating the Hippocratic Oath, "first do no harm".
I wish you the best of luck, and hope everything works out as you wish.

Thank You also tommy

Hi ihateppp. You should make sure in writing, before the operation, that the doctor leave the frenulum. You woill be glad you did.

well tommorow is the big day. *gulp*
i just hope everything turns out ok

of course ill update the whole procedure step by step.


tommy what is the advantage of keeping the frenulenum? i hope u get this soon cause were a bit short on time lol

Good luck and take it easy...........

well its done!!

here are my results for day 1

Day 1-

Well they brought me in the room and gave me an IV in the arm....nothing to painful.then i waited around for about 45 mins till they took me in and gave me the shot in the arm and just like that i was asleep.i cant remember feeling anything while he was doing cause i was enjoying a nice nap. i woke up and saw bandage wrapped around my penis. there was a little bit of burning...nothing no one couldnt handle.then they gave me more meds for any pain. the whole thing was virtually painless. i felt nothing. if ur gonna do it people then make sure u get put to sleep. anyway i took my bandage off and i looked at my penis and i have to say it dont look good right now lol because its swollen and bloody but remember im writing this 2 hours after the operation so of course its gonna look gross. the doc left my frenulum in place.
so as of right now its way to early to tell how its gonna end up lookin. ill update everyday. but one this is for sure .....it was absolutly painless


ill update later

Happy for you that things went well. Best wishes.

well its day 2


Day 2-

well the swelling hasnt gone down much but that is expected. it will prolly be a good 2 weeks before it starts to go down. like i said in my last post it is virtually painless. no night woodys have bothered me yet. thats it for now...

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL PLEASE DONT HEISATATE(sp?) AND ASK!

I'm glad all went well with you, and wish you a speedy recovery.

Day 3-
well the swelling keep going down at a very slow pace but nothing unexpected.
as for the decreasing in my ppp...welll as of right now its very unnoticeable and i really really do believe it will eventually go away because it already has a bit.

ask questions if u must!?

Day 4-

i put ice on my penis so the swelling would go down a little bit faster and it actually did help. things are lookin a bit better but it still needs time.

questions are always welcome.

Yo. What's PPP. Like, what it stands for and what it IS? I'm not cut. I think about it and cringe. Even if you didn't feel it...it'd be wierd to look and see your meat all cut and bloody! Gross...

Anyway. ppp...what's it?

You're a very brave person Ihateppp...and there are people listening and wanting to know about this, I am a girl and have been following this thread, and I find it very interesting.

I hope you have a successful recovery, and everything works out for you:)

ruttentud, ppp stands for pearly penile papules. they are little white pimples that form around the rim on the head of the dick. not all uncut guys have them but its always possible to develop them. if u dont have them and dont want to get them the best advice i have is keep ur forskin clean.

thanks for your support forgetmeknot

Day 5-

Today i noticed a much more decrease is swelling (must be the good luck everyones givin me :) ) the stitches are all still there and have not the dissolved
yet. im guessin for the swelling to come down completely it will be at least 2 weeks. most likely 2 months for it to smooth out completely.

questions are always welcome

pearly penile papules are nerve endings. they have nothing to do with whether an uncut person is unclean or not. circumcised men, and clean uncircumcised men, often have them. they are not pimples.

more uncut people have them then cut people and thats a fact. and it doesnt hurt to keep ur forskin clean. it definatly helps more then it hurts. we really dont know much about ppp, we dont even have a cure. the only explanition we got is "there normal".

no, it's not a fact that more uncut people have ppp than cut people. being clean has nothing to do with how the nerves grow, they grow the way they do because of genetics.

yes, it is a fact the uncut people are more likely to develop ppp (i read it on a site, i forget the URL). its been 6 days since my surgery and i can honestly say the ppp has gone down tremendously and im not making it up. im not tellin everyone to go get cut and im not promising there ppp will reduce, im just tellin everyone my experiance and i just feel great right now, it was kinda like killin two birds with one stone (for me at least)



its funny cause i look back about 10 months ago when i first joined this site and i was asking everyone about ppp and what it was and if there was a cure and to my disappointment there wasnt any. i was also asking everyone about circumcisions and how painful they were and if i should do it or not and now its just like 10 months later and im sittin here and its just like "wow" ive really come along way and i couldnt be happier. so thanks to everyone for all there support and advice.





questions are still always welcomed.

Logic tells me that circumcision does not cure PPP. How would the presence, or absence of a foreskin, affect the size and shape of nerve endings in the glans?

tommy if u dont mind me asking....do you have ppp??

just wondering.

no, I don't. I just don't want to see misinformation propagated.

haha i never progated any misinformation. i said it wouldnt hurt to keep ur foreskin clean! is that misinformation? lol

I was referring to "more uncut people have them then cut people and thats a fact. ". Not true with PPP.

haha i never progated any misinformation. i said it wouldnt hurt to keep ur foreskin clean! is that misinformation? lol
Question: Will there be further medical updates ?

the real thing is whether sex or sensation is any different. I could really care less *** it looks like.

sorry for skipping a few days but here is day 11

Day 11-
well most of the stiches dissolved, except on frenulum. the swelling has gone down quite a bit, one side is more swollen then the other so it might take a bit longer. its starting to feel really good, the stiches are mostly gone which makes it easier to wear shorts and underwear. i recently had a visit with my doc who did the surgery and he said he wanted to see me in 6 weeks...which is prolly a good estimate for when its gonna be COMPLETELY healed. no more meds or cream, its preety much clear sailing from here :) .......ill update every 2 or 3 days.


as for it feeling better....well both have advantages and disadvantages. getting oral sex from a girl would be much more pleasureable if ur cut so ur foreskin doesnt get in the way. as for sex it would be hard to put a condom on if ur uncut, also when having sex the foreskin ( i heard) tends to bunch up but i also heard some girls like that. the only advantage i see of being uncut IN MY OPINION is masturbation because u have the foreskin to glad up and down with. remember thats just what i think and that doesnt make it true.... just my own opinion.




questions are always welcomed.

time for another update




well i lost track of the days but heres goes another one...

all the stitches are out. most fell out even though they were supposed to dissolve buts its all good. i dont have an actual scar, of course i have a discoloration in forskin where the incision was made but there is absolutly no scar, he did a wonderful job. the swelling has gone down about 80%. everything feels great.




questions are always welcomed

damn, glad to head everything went so well. sounds like your procedure went better than me getting my tonsils out last week, haha. this thread pissed me off at first cuz of all the people questioning you and junk. its like, sometimes people do things for their own reasons, just accept that. you don't need to prove to anyone why your doing it. sheesh. well glad everything went well. :)

Question: When you say you have no scar. do you mean that the remaining foreskin butts up to the back of the glans. If so, your surgeon did an excellent job for you.

umm im not quite sure by what u mean when u say "butts up". he left my frenulum intact if thats what you mean. he did a very good job indeed.

umm im not quite sure by what u mean when u say "butts up". he left my frenulum intact if thats what you mean. he did a very good job indeed.
The frenulum is at the opposite end of the glans from the area of my question. "Butts up" carries the standard English connotation. In other words, does the remaining skin on your penis come up flush against the back (the large end) of your glans? sometimes a .25 to .75 inch (or more) of scar is left in the area. Hope this will clarify my question for an answer from you. Thanks

the discoloration is about .25 down from the glans.

ihateppp: Thank you, for everything. You've been so open and couargeous (I know I spelt that wrong :) ) with everything. I'm about the same age as you, and I don't think I could've gone tru it, as well as you have.

But you have given me the confidence, to do it as well. I really should've kept in touch with you more, as I have constantly read your post, and wondered about everything.

So if I may, any advice. I really don't know where to start, do you have any information on the different types of cuts? Who did you go to, to get it cut? I really, don't think, I could even talk to anyone I know in real life about this, but I'm going to try and tough it out, and go 1 on 1 with the doctor. I just couldn't bare to talk about it, with my family or friends.

So far, I think I want a loose cut, with my frelinum left in-tack :p Lol... any suggestions or advice, I'd greatly appreciate.

as far as the case study- TIME is the issue, check back in about a year - before anybody decides to get this proceedure wait until this case study is finished - my personal experience was not even close.

Man. I remember for the longest time I wanted to have it done. I would almost go into depression thinking girls would hate it. Then i got the girlfriend that I still have now, and she loves it. It feels great, she thinks its great. Its not worth the hassle. Now, im sure I wouldn't care what a girl thinks, cause.. it really doesn't matter. but.. eh, kudos for going threw with it, thats pretty ballsy.
Altho, even tho i thought I wantd it, now, im sure that would of been pretty dumb having it done.

very few people's experience is as positive. usually the enthusiasm for the operation is gone after the first year.

well gugu thanks for ur support and if this is what you really want to do then i say go for it. first off, be postively sure you want to do this. at first i was just like you and i was scared to talk to anybody about it, but if you want it that bad like i did then youll find a way to conquer your fears. to get this done you must go to a certified urologist. i live in massachusetts and i went to framhingham hospital to get it done. i got a loose cut with my frenulum intact. its nice i suppose but i dont think there would be a big difference with or without the frenulum.i would try to find a urologist with experiance and one that will put you to sleep so its absolutly painless. the entire procedure was painless for me. get a urologist your comfortable with and dont be afraid to ask him questions!!.....this is your penis were talking about here. if your comfortable with everything then all you gotta do is toughen up and go through with it.

ask me as many questions as you want!

well gugu thanks for ur support and if this is what you really want to do then i say go for it. first off, be postively sure you want to do this. at first i was just like you and i was scared to talk to anybody about it, but if you want it that bad like i did then youll find a way to conquer your fears. to get this done you must go to a certified urologist. i live in massachusetts and i went to framhingham hospital to get it done. i got a loose cut with my frenulum intact. its nice i suppose but i dont think there would be a big difference with or without the frenulum.i would try to find a urologist with experiance and one that will put you to sleep so its absolutly painless. the entire procedure was painless for me. get a urologist your comfortable with and dont be afraid to ask him questions!!.....this is your penis were talking about here. if your comfortable with everything then all you gotta do is toughen up and go through with it.

ask me as many questions as you want!

Man! You should be a motivational speaker :p

It's now w/e, so, no chance, of getting any progress over the next few days, but, if i could, I'd call up now, and book an appointment.

So I gotta tough it out until monday :) Try and remain headstrong, and confident.

I love the fact, that your still around, and posting... Alot of people, would've forgotten about the others, but thanks for sticking around, trying to help out the others (like me).

I'll try and do the same, and check back in, when I know where i'm headed.

As of now though, after your "success" I think i'll follow the same procedure.

One personal question though: Have you tried "using" it yet? Is it as good as always? Still too early?

umm i havent had sex yet but ive masturabated plenty of times already and it feels great if not better then before. so keep confindent and stick it out and hopefully your experiance will be as successful as mine :)

If it were me, I would wait until the stitches were out, and I was healed, before pronouncing the operation a success, saying it feels as good or better than before, and advising others to have it. You present it as conquering your fears, I see it as just the opposite. guni_gugu, I wish you luck in your bloodlust to follow in ihateppp's footsteps.

i am fully healed tommy and no stitches are present. obiously i wouldnt do it with stiches lodged in there, that would hurt

and yes i can announce it as a success too because its 100% healed...just to clear up my last post